DIVIDE & CONQUER

[subby]

Hi folks, new member here

Just wanted to say (I'm only on page 7 of this thread so I don't know how the other pages will transpire) The work you lot have done on this is amazing. I'm still trying to get my head around it but I'm getting there. Hope you all are winning well and will comment again when I'm done with all 18 pages lol

Sub

[subby]

@ anyone, primarily Johnlegend though as he has a good amount of published results that i'm
following, also many thanks to XXVV and scoobie for all your expert analysis and willingness
to share a decent looking long term method. Respect to you all.

Hello, a few questions if I may. First I'd like to say that I've read the thread now and I
just want to be sure that I can understand this 100% before trying. I@ve played the game now
for a few years but usually RNG or with stupid things like Roulette Assault software. I now
know that RNG can't be beaten and I@m just sorry it's taken me a good amount of lost money
to realise this. I intend to be patient now and try to use this method to build up a decent
bank roll.



How many casinos do you use use?

Are they live wheel online or real casino

Would you recommend using multiple casino logins i.e.
having 2 casino open(Joe bloggs casino and Amy Anytimes Casino) Or just stick to one casino
at a time?

What is your current bet unit for your current bankroll?

After a certain amount of time and a target of doubling your bankroll (starting bankroll 500),
if you are taking 500 every couple of months consistently, wouldn't the casino get suspicious
and stop you taking your money out claiming cheating or some excuse?


Should I use just dozens or have 2 D&C plans..one for dozens and one for columns...or is that
what I'm supposed to be doing anyway.


6 spins out are 133 231 Putting it into the matrix (which I'm still getting to grips with)

113 232 331

when the 7th spin comes out and say it's a 1 therefore
113 232 331
1

Does the trigger mean that if the numbers( 1 in this case) match, then I bet the next spin
against the next 1..i.e. bet one unit on 2 and one unit on 3?

If the 7th spin was a 2 eg

113 232 331
2

does the fact it does NOT match the number above it(1) mean that the non match is the trigger
to bet...basically do the stacked numbers have to match to be a trigger to bet or is it
the opposite?

Any guides for how to bet the single zero as a cover/outright winning, bet. I'm prepared to
read to learn how to cover zeros as a tax bet (as others have described it here) but
I want to know where to start reading reliable methods of covering zero in any D&C
method


I've more questions to ask but this is a lot to start with lol. I hope others can guide me
here if you feel you don't have the time to reply (Which I understand as you want to be
online making money and not taking up money making time withb a newbie to the forums lol)

[subby]

Guys,

Sometimes one column will have a lot more dozens than the other two. That is normal because you have more groups of three starting with the same dozen Example:

1-2-1.........2-3-1..........3-3-1
1-1-3.........2-1-1..........3-1-2
1-2-2.........2-2-2
1-3-1.........2-3-1
                 2-2 3
                 2-1-1

I hope this visualization will help.

Scooby Doo

I've changed the original to show 2nd dozen changes to get a question answered

1-2-1.........2-3-1..........3-3-1
1-1-3.........2-1-1..........3-1-2
1-2-2.........2-2-2
1-3-1.........2-3-1
                 2-3a-1b <betting would have been 1-1 in the "a" bet and 3-3 in the "b" bet
                 2-3c-1d <betting would be 4-4 in the "c" bet and 12-12 in the "d" bet


a: are my betting amounts correct i.e. have I bet enough? Are the "a" and "b" bets called tier one betting and bets "c" and "d" called tier two bets
b: would these losses be called a double loss that is referred to in Johns "double losses" when he updates his bankroll and results?
(I'm referring to my own interpretation of what a double loss is in the remainder of this post. If i@m wrong then let me know)

If I've now had one of these "double losses" that I've described above..if I'm even RIGHT in my understanding, do I merely go back and start with tier one bets or how do I recover from a "double loss"?

[subby]

Dozens - new example:

3
2
0
1
3
1
1                                      1 3 2           2 1 3      3 1 1
                                                           2 2         3 0 2      LW
                                                                         3 1 0
3                                                                       3 1 1      LLW
0
2   zero appears and does cause a loss but note how it is positioned, next bet wins. Game. <- if using 1-3-9 you win yes?

0   zero appears again but this time is ignored because it falls between the sets of three 
      outcomes for every line of the matrix

3
1   the 1 would be a loss because we look above the zero on the matrix and see another 1.
0   bless my cotton socks but zero appears yet again and note its position, also a loss.at this point, if I'm reading this right, your betting using single units would be lost 2x1 and then lost 2 x 3 yes? 

0   disregard

3
1 <Why have you not betted here? using the 3rd part of the 1-3-9 sequence so that you'd bet 2x9 at this point? I don't follow why you haven't bet here after losing the line above
1   we look above the zero and see that we need a 1 or 3 so we win.

or the game may have concluded on the third bet by going over to another benchmark had another trigger shown....

2
2   win

[subby]

Time for an update of DIVIDE AND CONQUER. After reaching a milestone.

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 1000
TOTAL GAMES WON 912
TOTAL GAMES LOST 88

STRIKERATE APPROX 10/1

BALANCE 702 UNITS PLUS

LONGEST WINNING STREAK 31
LONGEST FIRST GAME WINNING STREAK 29
DOUBLE LOSSES 9

Ticking along nicely slightly under PATTERN 4 and PATTERN BREAKER for strikerate. But with its instant turnover that's to be expected. I am playing typically 5 sets of 2 games throughout the day. To achieve my numbers. Doing so produces impressive first game streaks. And overall streaks. Double losses are on a par too with the other methods. Next update at 1100 games played. 

Not sure if I'm repeating myself but when I have a question I just hit reply lol....

say you've got this sample
   
    132       221    323
    132 <does that mean it's a double loss i.e. you've lost on the 3 and the 2? or does this constitute a "single" loss ?


Also to get the next trigger to bet...

132     221    323
132     211a  3*

(due to the 1a being the end, you spin to get the next matrix number then you bet the 9-9 units(3rd in the sequence of betting) at this point * you then bet first or third dozen to win using 9-9)

Have I worked that out right?

I'm presuming that you use 1-1 then 3-3 then 9-9. Can you confirm that if I lose the 9-9 to lose 26 units...I merely wait until i get the next betting trigger point (according to you it's after a virtual loss) do I start with 1-1 bets again?

Sorry if I'm a bit topsy turvy with my questions, I realise that the question might not flow from one point to another but I find it hard to post up a coherent question as I'm trying to take all this in lol

[Johnlegend]

@ anyone, primarily Johnlegend though as he has a good amount of published results that i'm
following, also many thanks to XXVV and scoobie for all your expert analysis and willingness
to share a decent looking long term method. Respect to you all.

Hello, a few questions if I may. First I'd like to say that I've read the thread now and I
just want to be sure that I can understand this 100% before trying. I@ve played the game now
for a few years but usually RNG or with silly things like Roulette Assault software. I now
know that RNG can't be beaten and I@m just sorry it's taken me a good amount of lost money
to realise this. I intend to be patient now and try to use this method to build up a decent
bankroll.



How many casinos do you use use?

Are they live wheel online or real casino

Would you recommend using multiple casino logins i.e.
having 2 casino open(Joe bloggs casino and Amy Anytimes Casino) Or just stick to one casino
at a time?

What is your current bet unit for your current bankroll?

After a certain amount of time and a target of doubling your bankroll (starting bankroll 500),
if you are taking 500 every couple of months consistently, wouldn't the casino get suspicious
and stop you taking your money out claiming cheating or some excuse?


Should I use just dozens or have 2 D&C plans..one for dozens and one for columns...or is that
what I'm supposed to be doing anyway.


6 spins out are 133 231 Putting it into the matrix (which I'm still getting to grips with)

113 232 331

when the 7th spin comes out and say it's a 1 therefore
113 232 331
1

Does the trigger mean that if the numbers( 1 in this case) match, then I bet the next spin
against the next 1..i.e. bet one unit on 2 and one unit on 3?

If the 7th spin was a 2 e.g.

113 232 331
2

does the fact it does NOT match the number above it(1) mean that the non match is the trigger
to bet...basically do the stacked numbers have to match to be a trigger to bet or is it
the opposite?

Any guides for how to bet the single zero as a cover/outright winning, bet. I'm prepared to
read to learn how to cover zeros as a tax bet (as others have described it here) but
I want to know where to start reading reliable methods of covering zero in any D&C
method


I've more questions to ask but this is a lot to start with LoL. I hope others can guide me
here if you feel you don't have the time to reply (Which I understand as you want to be
online making money and not taking up money making time withb a newbie to the forums LoL)

Never play anything but live or ariball roulette if you have any serious aspirations for success with this game.
One account will get you started. You play short sessions. As your BR grows you can add sites and use a method of rotating play so as to stay under the radar. Online sites are only interested in GREEDY PLAYERS who may have a winng method. If you are foolish enough to show them you can beat them too often. They will try and do something about that. If you win once in a while but never serious amounts. You will never have any trouble.

[Johnlegend]

hey guys, a lot of testing still needs to be done, but i am curious how many times in divide and conquer you see a triple in one column  for example

122
122
122

Dont get hung up on repeaters people this is VERY DANGEROUS. Random can get stuck in repeat mode and destroy your BR if you attempt to outlive it. Play the method as it was created for no more than *****4***** GAMES PER SESSION. For a total of 20 a day. And you will attain success with this excellent method. You will gain great confidence over time. At how consistent your daily results are.

[Johnlegend]

RESULTS UPDATE FOR DIVIDE AND CONQUER FOR 22/03/2012

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 6,500

TOTAL GAMES WON 5,982

TOTAL GAMES LOST 518

STRIKERATE APPROX 11/1

BALANCE 5,294 UNITS PLUS

DOUBLE LOSSES 22

This remains THEE fast paced method as far as I am concerned. Its consistency is very solid when confined to 5 x 4 sessions per calendar day.

[subby]

Hi John thanks for clearing up a couple of things. Cheers

Your bankroll looks incredible now thanks to solid patience. Well done

I think my previous question got mixed up a bit with 3 betting 1-3-9 as opposed to the 3 TIER betting of 2 betting

1-1 3-3

then

4-4 12-12

then

your 3rd tier, can't remember what numbers you had for this.

Can you just confirm that this is the betting method you use?

Love hearing of your success from the beginning of this thread

Is that bankroll, 5295 you have, purely on D&C or all methods combined?

[subby]

This is Great! Great observation DR.X 

this is what i was talking about. betting in clusters and spot entry and exit triggers.

i play all methods with this methodology as maths can't win long term. it is the human factor.
Man vs machine

depending on the behavior of the accuracy of the bet design i adjust the progression and this triggers. only the knowledge that comes from practicing one bet selection can provide us a decent analyzes and strategy. Couldn't agree more.

ie.
the entry trigger I use for my mod of pattern4 is a win after a series of losses.

This single choice largely overcomes what would be expectable from probability. Despite the total of events obey the laws of probability, the effective results of the approach are far from dictated balance.

This observation leads me to forging the mildest progression i can to take profit with the least exposure.


I have to sincerely congratulate your interventions here in the forum. They are systematic, based on logical arguments and pure observations. For me it is the "serious" way to go.

My admiration,
AL

Any chance of explaining a parlay bet for me in a bit please? I don't know what it is or how to do it :/

[Johnlegend]

Hi John thanks for clearing up a couple of things. Cheers

Your bankroll looks incredible now thanks to solid patience. Well done

I think my previous question got mixed up a bit with 3 betting 1-3-9 as opposed to the 3 TIER betting of 2 betting

1-1 3-3

then

4-4 12-12

then

your 3rd tier, can't remember what numbers you had for this.

Can you just confirm that this is the betting method you use?

Love hearing of your success from the beginning of this thread

Is that bankroll, 5295 you have, purely on D&C or all methods combined?

Hi Subby, no each of the three methods I give all my time and attention to have separate Bankrolls. Yes that is the two level staking I employ. Double losses are infrequent enough for this application to be fruitful. And I have never seen a treble loss for either DIVIDE AND CONQUER OR PATTERN BREAKER. Therein lies their power.
A solid method must have noticeable boundaries that it either never passes or if so, so infrequently they are of little consequence to your overall success and growing bank.

[subby]

When you have a double loss do you go back to tier 1 betting 1-1, 3-3 or do you keep playing other tiers until you recover the losses? Or do you stick to 5 x 4 games always without deviation, regardless of the outcomes?

[Johnlegend]

When you have a double loss do you go back to tier 1 betting 1-1, 3-3 or do you keep playing other tiers until you recover the losses? Or do you stick to 5 x 4 games always without deviation, regardless of the outcomes?

Hello Subby good question. In the past I would play 3 levels. Because I have never lost three games in a row. Now I play only two. As even double losses seldom occur when you stick to the rigid 5x4 per day plan. How I see it is like this Subby. A typical days play seldom results in more than 2 losing games out of 20. If for example I lost the last game of the day. The 20th GAME. I will accept it.
What you are looking for is a longterm overall profit. And if you stick to the plan you will get it. Divide and conquer is the best fast paced method I have ever seen. You gain the edge by solid discipline. And learning to read the breakdown of a days play seeing what rarely happens. Builds great confidence.

[subby]

Thanks for taking the time to reply John, I appreciate your help and also reading your comments/updates. Thanks 

[subby]

I was on slingshot at an online casino - casino king


1 2 3       2 3 2      3 2 3
                    3 3w1      t1 first or third - 101
1 2l1w                            t1 first or third then first or second - 102
                    3 2w2       t1 first or second - 103
             2 1w2              t1 first or second - 104
                     3 2l2l      t1 first or third then first or third -96
1 2l3w                           t2 first or third then second or third - 99
1 2l2w                          t2 first or third then first or second - 102
1 3 2   NB
                     3 1w2      t1 first or third - 103
                     3 1l2l      t1 second or third then first or third - 95
              2 1l0l                    t2 second or third then first or third - 71
1 1w2                          t3 first or second - 83
                     3 2w1       t3 second or third - 95
                     3 3w3       t3 one or third - 107

I had to go tier 3 betting for a few spins which I'm not 100% happy about, to recover losses. Would anyone care to comment on how they would have played the betting tiers given my double loss with the green 0 causing the double loss above, prompting tier 3 t3 betting

Virtual win of 7 units playing continuous spin (I won't be doing continuous only jump in and out, I just wanted to see how the method plays out to be sure I know it before starting it properly)

*STAKING LEVELS*

TIER 1(t1)= 2 (1 EACH DOZEN) THEN 6 (3 EACH DOZEN) = 8 CHIPS

TIER 2(t2)= 6 (3 EACH DOZEN) THEN 18 (9 EACH DOZEN)= 24 CHIPS

TIER 3(t3)= 24 (12 EACH DOZEN) THEN 72 (36 EACH DOZEN)= 96 CHIPS

With 100 units (probably british pounds) would you suggest I use £1 units or 50p units for a £100 bankroll?

I can go to 10p if you think it would give me more security. Would you suggest that I play 10p units for every £100 bankroll I have or could I go to higher unit values per bet? say 20p units for every £100 bankroll I have?

Just would like your thoughts on bankroll setup and money management. Thanks.

Actually anyone can comment if they want to, not only John LoL