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System based on Law of the third-need comments

Started by Drazen, Apr 26, 12:39 PM 2011

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Wally Gator

Quote from: superman on Apr 30, 10:01 AM 2011
Ok guys, bot built for BV NZ, its just done its first test run where I just let it run and run with no progression, flat betting all the way, well, after 36 spins it started to bet on the numbers unhit in the 3 separate dozens, it did 79 spins before hitting one of the unhit numbers, to me that's not too good, now, is this correct?

I haven't started to remove any numbers that get hit yet was going to work on the 3 individual progressions first, are you removing the number if it hits?

So, are you saying that the numbers that hit in the first 36 spins continued to hit until spin 79 and the numbers that were not hit in the first 36 spins did not show until spin 79?  I've never seen that happen.  Please clarify.

Thanks, WG
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

GLC

Hey guys,

Don't mean to interrupt the flow of things, but I've been playing around with this system and having excellent luck by picking the dozen that has the most unhit numbers in it and betting on it.

Just been using a simple +1 on each loss and back 2 on each win unless at a new high.

There may be something here, may not win enough for all the tracking unless we increase our unit size.

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

superman

QuoteSo, are you saying that the numbers that hit in the first 36 spins continued to hit until spin 79 and the numbers that were not hit in the first 36 spins did not show until spin 79?

correct mate, non of the missing numbers hit through spin 37 to 79, I also thought that was funny/strange/unheard of/RANDOM
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Rolletti

Played so far 58 games real money on Party RNG.

The law of the 2/3 is not realy a law. It is more a tendency taken for one specific game.
It becomes a law for BIG number of games on average.

Had now also several Dozens that did not even produce 1/2 of the sleepers in the 37 spin cycle.
Same is true for the Live Wheel on Party.

Its all about a propper stop loss in betting progression.

Drazen

Quote from: drazen_cro on May 01, 09:52 AM 2011
Yes mate, you are right at some point. But anyway, try this on real wheels.or at least do some tests on real wheel numbers.  And when you reach 58 played games from live wheel, look at your bankrol and say that again. RNG respects only law of programer. Or try play the safest possible variation. Stop on 1 st hit in any dozen or on 1st hit in dozen with most sleepers. I didn't say that this method is HG, but there si so much in this, conected with law of the third.
Regards
            Drazen

ewarwoowar

hello george, you been playing the sleepers within the dozen, or the dozen itself?
drazen did say earlier in the thread that the more sleepers in the dozen after tracking, the easier they seem to hit, understandable really.
in faecorum semper solum profundum variat

Ginnelli

Hi Everyone, Im a great roulette fan,  :)

Nice idea Drazen_cro

This is my first post on this forum, and would like to get involved in this method,
Superman, how many sleepers did you have in each dozen after you waited for the 36 spin?
i. e before they hit on spin 79.  for dozen 1,2,3

What Im also doing with this method is to track the dozens as per when spin 37 hits, I look at the the dozen that at that point intime has hit the least, Eg.  dozen 1 has just hit 4 times in a row, dozen 2 is sleeping for 4 spins and dozen 3 for 8,now I look to see how many sleepers is in that dozen that hit the least, then see for how man progressions it can go, Because with RNG, man made, it has a bad habit of going to the extremes, so from my experice, from online casinos, I' ve seen a dozen sleep for no more than 33 spins in total. this is done with a 200 000 real gambling spin test from my own account. I know this sounds like alot of tracking but to make money you have to put the work in to see the profits.

As GLC sugested earlier in the post to get one hit one each dozen,which i agree with,but before I choose the  dozen that has hit least,I only play one dozen not three for one hit only.
if my progression cannot make it past the 33 spins I simply wait and spin, cancelling 2 of the three dozens as they hit, this will give you additional "free" progressions, by free spinning on playtech platform.
Once I have only one unhit dozen left and for example we had 4 numbers sleeping, table limits 150 max single number I would have a 38 step progression PLUS my additional eg 15 spins it took to cancel 2 of the 3 dozens, so theoretically I now have made a 38 step progession into a 53 step progression. . . . I may not be 100% right with what Im doing but, have not see yet a scenario that has turned sour doing it this way. . . .

Your feed back would be appreciated

Regards

Ginnelli

South Africa


superman

QuoteSuperman, how many sleepers did you have in each dozen after you waited for the 36 spin?

Ek kan nie onthou nie, sorry mate but it was something like

5 in dozen A 6 in dozen B and 3 in dozen C

I have since done as Kenio suggested and remove any that do hit, just havent had time to tell the program to end the attack after 1/2 the sleepers have appeared, been busy with paying work, may look at it again later today.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Ginnelli

Quote from: superman link=topic=4960. msg50394#msg50394 date=1304412857
Ek kan nie onthou nie, sorry mate but it was something like

5 in dozen A 6 in dozen B and 3 in dozen C

I have since done as Kenio suggested and remove any that do hit, just haven't had time to tell the program to end the attack after 1/2 the sleepers have appeared, been busy with paying work, may look at it again later today.

Thanks, not bad Afrikaans

Regards

Ginnelli

Drazen

Quote from: Ginnelli on May 03, 04:29 AM 2011
Hi Everyone, I'm a great roulette fan,  :)

Nice idea Drazen_cro

This is my first post on this forum, and would like to get involved in this method,
Superman, how many sleepers did you have in each dozen after you waited for the 36 spin?
i. e before they hit on spin 79.  for dozen 1,2,3

What I'm also doing with this method is to track the dozens as per when spin 37 hits, I look at the the dozen that at that point intime has hit the least, e.g..  dozen 1 has just hit 4 times in a row, dozen 2 is sleeping for 4 spins and dozen 3 for 8,now I look to see how many sleepers is in that dozen that hit the least, then see for how man progressions it can go, Because with RNG, man made, it has a bad habit of going to the extremes, so from my experice, from online casinos, I' ve seen a dozen sleep for no more than 33 spins in total. this is done with a 200 000 real gambling spin test from my own account. I know this sounds like a lot of tracking but to make money you have to put the work in to see the profits.

As GLC sugested earlier in the post to get one hit one each dozen,which I agree with,but before I choose the  dozen that has hit least,I only play one dozen not three for one hit only.
if my progression cannot make it past the 33 spins I simply wait and spin, cancelling 2 of the three dozens as they hit, this will give you additional "free" progressions, by free spinning on playtech platform.
Once I have only one unhit dozen left and for example we had 4 numbers sleeping, table limits 150 max single number I would have a 38 step progression PLUS my additional e.g. 15 spins it took to cancel 2 of the 3 dozens, so theoretically I now have made a 38 step progession into a 53 step progression. . . . I may not be 100% right with what I'm doing but, have not see yet a scenario that has turned sour doing it this way. . . .

Your feed back would be appreciated

Regards

Ginnelli

South Africa


Welcome to the forum Ginnelli.
You work is appreciated.
Come with some tests in your researchings.
But of course on live (real) numbers only.
Regards
            Drazen

Rolletti

Does anybody beside myself play this system?
How are your results?

I have about 140 games now on Party RNG and it works for me.
My amendment ist a more aggressive progression 6-10 steps only. I take this loss and start progression if there are less than 15 spins in my bet spin cycle.

Drazen

i haven't got enough money for this system yet :) LoL
You are playing on RNG and with orignal idea.  And still got profit. Not bad ha? ;)
I ll play that with 1/2 and that will be precise like Swiss Watch :) Yes it is possible to adjust progression during the game. And that works good too. One half never failed in live tests by now...

Ginnelli

Hi Rolletti

Yes to your question, just had not had enough time on my hands at the moment, but hopefully later I can get busy with it,glad to see your making good ground with it, especially on RNG, which I prefer to play,when i have some recorded results i will post.   .   .   

To everyone.  .  ? :)

JUST A thought???? ::), if we are left with example: 3 numbers in a dozen, would it not maybe be better to cover each number with a split bet, ie split on a number that has not hit in 37 spins and a number that has hit more times closes to the unhit number in the 37 spin cycle, covering 6 numbers,to increase the hit rate,and reduce the waiting  due to seeing superman waiting 42 spins for one of the numbers to hit?  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.  .  .  .  .  .  . 

Regards

Ginnelli

Drazen

Quote from: Ginnelli on May 05, 11:03 AM 2011
Hi Rolletti

Yes to your question, just had not had enough time on my hands at the moment, but hopefully later I can get busy with it,glad to see your making good ground with it, especially on RNG, which I prefer to play,when i have some recorded results i will post.   .   .   

To everyone.  .  ? :)

JUST A thought???? ::), if we are left with example: 3 numbers in a dozen, would it not maybe be better to cover each number with a split bet, ie split on a number that has not hit in 37 spins and a number that has hit more times closes to the unhit number in the 37 spin cycle, covering 6 numbers,to increase the hit rate,and reduce the waiting  due to seeing superman waiting 42 spins for one of the numbers to hit?  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.  .  .  .  .  .  . 

Regards

Ginnelli

One out of many options posible, of course, yes. Just have to recalcute progression cosidering 17:1 odds.

broadsword_uk

Quote from: GLC link=topic=4960. msg50136#msg50136 date=1304215044
Hey guys,

Don't mean to interrupt the flow of things, but I've been playing around with this system and having excellent luck by picking the dozen that has the most unhit numbers in it and betting on it.

Just been using a simple +1 on each loss and back 2 on each win unless at a new high.

There may be something here, may not win enough for all the tracking unless we increase our unit size.

Hey George - i just sat here for a couple of hours and did as you said and turned a £500 demo account into nearly £1000 with £1 stakes on a real wheel.   That was just for fun though, how is yours working out lately? Thanks to Drazen_cro for opening up an interesting discussion.

Ian


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