System based on Law of the third-need comments

[Rolletti]

I can do free spins.
After I stop, I spin without bet to see when the sleeper show up.
In my casino and bankroll I'm able to play progression up to 37+ steps.
But as u calculate 1-25, I would have lost at least once full bankroll. Dont remember so well.
After I stopped somtimes the sleeper showed up 3 spins later, sometimes 15 spins.
I like to protect my bankroll as I'm still building it.

[Drazen]

I can do free spins.
After I stop, I spin without bet to see when the sleeper show up.
In my casino and bankroll I'm able to play progression up to 37+ steps.
But as you calculate 1-25, I would have lost at least once full bankroll. don't remember so well.
After I stopped somtimes the sleeper showed up 3 spins later, sometimes 15 spins.
I like to protect my bankroll as I'm still building it.

One more time, allow me my friend to explain this. I PM-ed my friend Roletti about this, and he told me that he played original idea of system with 2/3. Because he wanted so of course. On his example he had 5 sleepers and he was looking 3 hits, and with 1/2 we would looking 2 hits. We founded that sometimes system in with 2/3 hit can get little after max progression, even with recalculation. So with 1/2 sleepers modifications, this system wouldnt fail at his point realy.   So with 1/2 system is still pretty safe.

Than you for playing
Regards
             Drazen

[Rolletti]

Sleepers                Hit on Spin No

25                               9
26   
27   
28   
33   


The rest did not show up for more than 37 spins...

[Drazen]

Sleepers                Hit on Spin No

25                               9
26   
27   
28   
33   


The rest did not show up for more than 37 spins...

But did you followed in which spin you would hit?

[kenio]

Was it at Party Casino RNG?

[kenio]

As I promised earlier I want to show you something, This may help to solve the problem with our progression going to far.
We already have had couple situations, where we were short with progression by 2-5 steps. We can agree that's very frustrating.
I'm gonna use one of drazen's session to give an idea, what's in my mind.

---Session one----

1st dozen sleepers

2 -- at 11.spin +27 (-9 down) dozen session stpped
6 -- at 8. spin +4 (-32 down)
10
12
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2nd dozen sleepers

14 ---at 6. spin +12 (-24 down)
18
20 --- at 23. spin +30 (-78 down) dozen session stopped
21
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3rd dozen sleepers

29
33
35---at 3. spin +21 (-15) dozen session stopped
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Total session profit 31+42+21=94 units


Drazen used the rules: 1/2 sleepers must be hit and removing bets after hit.
He finished his session at spin 23. That's when the last expected sleeper in dozen 2 was hit.
Lets take a closer look at 3rd dozen. Our number was hit at 3 spin and the session ended at 23 spin.
The opportunity knocks at our door. Why not to give it a shot and play 2/3 sleepers on this dozen. I assume that between spin 3 and 23 neither number 29 nor 33 was hit. So starting with spin 24 we can open a new progression for these two numbers (29,33). The max progression for 2 numbers is 67 steps.
Our dozen was hit 20 spins ago, so it gives us extra 20 steps. Total 87 steps for numbers 29 and 33 to show up.
One of sleepers must appear before spin 90 if we want to play 2/3 rule.
Drazen if you still have records from this session, please tell me at which spin 29 or 33 was hit.

So my idea is, why not to play it the safest possible way. First we aim for only one sleeper in each dozen to hit.When the number is hit we stop playing this dozen. After we have one number in each dozen, we can start aiming for 1/2 sleepers and than 2/3. When target is hit we stop and wait for other dozen to reach its target.
The reason do it, is  to give us more steps in our progression.
I hope explained clearly enough. For those who still don't get it I post an example in my next post.

[Drazen]

Ok my friend I understand what you are saying but take a look at hits. I have recorded 185 last spins so I will write whenever I had a hit in that period. So you can examine.

2 --11. spin
6 ---8.spin
10-- 91. spin
12-- no hit

14 -at 6.spin
18 -- at36. spin
20 --- at 23. spin
21 --- at 41.spin

29--- 7. spin
33 ---72. spin
35 ---5. spin

You would be wrong. You would fail at that way. But there is a way we wouldnt. I have to remind you that we are playing (examine) through the 37 spin cycle. So if you would start when we had last expected total hit (24.spin) and then started again, you would fail. You see? (max progression for 2 numbers is 67 steps and in first dozen is more than that, you see?) BUT, I was mentioning that in my first post. (for  the third 37 spin cycle). If you started again at 75. spin ( playing for 3rd spin cycle and playing with rest of sleepers for  this cycle you could expect same amount of hits again) You see what I am talking about? In your way, you would have a hit in 2nd and 3rd dozen, that is true, but you would have to stretch your progression quite well, and in first dozen you would even fail. And if you started in 3rd spin cycle same thing again with rest of the sleepers. You would have one hit less, but you wouldnt fail in 1st dozen. And that is more important. Right? And of course we wouldn have to go so far in our progression.

Regards
               Drazen

[Drazen]

Was it at Party Casino RNG?

And in the meanwhile I had some so bad experience with RNG for real money, that I am now 100000% sure that they are cheating. I was playing black jack but anyway. So I am sure that is the reason why our friend rolleti failed.  But we still don't is he really failed. His progression could hold 5 steps more than for his 37. spin cycle. I said that I had already experience like that. My 37 pins cycle was over, but I still didn't have my hit. He happend in spin 42, last step for my progression. But only once for hundrets of tests.

[Rolletti]

Had anyone played this system on live wheel??
For me only way is to play RNG, because it takes me so long to calculate progression and put the bets on the green.
Sometimes I also feel like RNG is rigged. when No dont hit for so long time or when they hit then they do it on the lowest earning step of the progression.

But with my stop loss looks like a winning system.
Even if on RNG the law of 2/3 fails some time, the system does not fail.
Its not important to win each and every game.
What is important is to win more $$ than to lose.

I love this system.

sometimes it gives side bets too.

when I have lots of RED No while tracking my 37 numbers in the first 15-20 spins I play a permanent bet on black with simple progression and big units.
As we know by finishing the 37 No tracking cycle we have to have about 15 sleepers left. This means a lot of BLACK will hit.
EASY WIN.

Or if one No did not hit after 80-90 spins.
Big unit bet only on this one no using calculated progression.

[Drazen]

Yes my friend. You are right about reds nad black. Easy to track and to spot when is good oportunity to take some good money on them I can suppose that you  are you in plus with this method even that you are using original variant with 2/3 and playing on RNG?

[kenio]

If we expect 2/3 sleepers within the dozen will be hit in the next 37 spins, why do we even bother to wait 37 spins to get our sleepers.
We can start from begining when we have 12 sleepers in each dozen. Dozen 1 will have 13 sleepers including zero.
Play it safe way, and assume that half of the sleepers will be hit in the 37spins. This way we only need to adjust our progression, every time the sleeper was hit.

[bigtim08]

I really like systems that are based on the law of the thirds.  I play a few systems of my own based on the thirds.   It seems in the systems that deal with the law of the third you are going to have 2/3 of your wins in early stages of play so the other third carry the progression very high.   I do not like the very high progressions.   The way I play a system like this is if i was betting on 5 sleepers in on dozen I would only play that dozen 7 spins with a staking plan that would win me aprox.  30 units on any of the first  7 spins about 2/3 of the time you should win.   If i don't win my play is over, then on my next new game with new numbers I would play with double the units of the game I lost, if I win that gets me very close to even.   If the second series would happen to lose you can carry your progression to the next level.   On the next new game with new numbers.
which would be 4 units, your basic 1-2-4 but I really don't like the third level and don't really know how much benefit it gives I think its more of a personal preference if you want to play that level.  If you play that level you with have the normal 2/3 win rate but if you loses, It takes alot of wins to recover all you losses.   

Hope this helps you all win more money with less risk.

[Drazen]

I really like systems that are based on the law of the thirds.  I play a few systems of my own based on the thirds.   It seems in the systems that deal with the law of the third you are going to have 2/3 of your wins in early stages of play so the other third carry the progression very high.   I do not like the very high progressions.   The way I play a system like this is if I was betting on 5 sleepers in on dozen I would only play that dozen 7 spins with a staking plan that would win me aprox.  30 units on any of the first  7 spins about 2/3 of the time you should win.   If I don't win my play is over, then on my next new game with new numbers I would play with double the units of the game I lost, if I win that gets me very close to even.   If the second series would happen to lose you can carry your progression to the next level.   On the next new game with new numbers.
which would be 4 units, your basic 1-2-4 but I really don't like the third level and don't really know how much benefit it gives I think its more of a personal preference if you want to play that level.  If you play that level you with have the normal 2/3 win rate but if you loses, It takes a lot of wins to recover all you losses.   

Hope this helps you all win more money with less risk.

Thank you for suggestion. Good one. That can be figured out only from experience playing similar systems based on law of the third. I see that   But we are investigating is there any point, respecting this law that can be taken as a point below system NEVER goes.

[superman]

ok guys, bot built for BV NZ, its just done its first test run where I just let it run and run with no progression, flat betting all the way, well, after 36 spins it started to bet on the numbers unhit in the 3 seperate dozens, it did 79 spins before hitting one of the unhit numbers, to me that's not too good, now, is this correct?

1. Bet until 1/2 sleepers appear. Not 2/3
2. Cross off the number that has been hit and don't bet on it anymore.

I havent started to remove any numbers that get hit yet was going to work on the 3 individual progressions first, are you removing the number if it hits?

[kenio]

Superman. Remove bet from the number that was hit. Reset and readjust your progression. It gives you couple extra steps.