Linear betting - the wheel and carpet

[Twocando]

Thanks Victor for this forum and for allowing me to register may this forum bring the guys and girls all the knowledge they need to win more.

For this topic The linear betting on the wheel and carpet, I would like to explain how it works. But first a background on why this "may" work. On another forum I made the statement that the ball can only land in 1 of 2 places on the wheel and this is still my believe. Then there is a guy selling a system with a lot of pros and cons to it. Say that if the dealer and table qualifies you can play the 1/2 of the wheel to hit.

I'm not selling anything I'm just giving it. So lets see how it works.

On both the carpet and the wheel the movement to the next number is limited to 18 numbers from the last. This is in either direction left or right from the last. If the number repeats itself it's a 0 movement. On the carpet you need to do some calculation. If the last number is 25 and it's followed by number 10 then its negative movement of 15. We are always counting to a direction with a limit of 18 movement. On the wheel it will be easier to see. But for the table one needs to keep too the calculation. Always the closes distances from the last with the maximum of 18 numbers.

If the last number was #5 and it's followed by number 36. Then the movement is 6 numbers to the negative. count from 5 back to #36 and over the #0. The numbers to count will be 4 (1) 3 (2) 2 (3) 1 (4) 0 (5) 36 (6)

To keep track of these movements draw a linear line and mark the movements on this .

0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 -14 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18

Remember you are going to make one mark for each movement but you need to play this movement in both directions. For the wheel it will be to the left and the right of the number. On the carpet to the positive or negative from the number. If the movement was 6 numbers for the last and the last number is 36. Now if we want to play that this movement is going to repeat we will play the next on the Carpet. Numbers 30 because its 6 numbers negative to 36 and #5 because its 6 numbers positive from 36.

The counting of positive and negative on the carpet works on a linear line with numbers from 0 to 36.

You will be surprised by the winnings that this generates. You can play this movement to both the wheel and carpet at once. The numbers to play will be different from the wheel and the carpet. or you can just play one of the two.

I wait for a group of 3 numbers movement next to each other on the line and the play that group of number. In total its 3 x 2 = 6 numbers to repeat this distance from the last number. For each following number the next numbers to play will be different but the distances from the last would be to that group that was selected to repeat.

Lets see if there are any comments on this, maybe I'll need to explain it better.

   

[VLS]

Good on you for your generosity dear Twocando.

Hope you are doing great at the tables.

Please be aware we are only a few at the moment, so give it time to get the debate going. (Guys, when twocando speaks, we better listen!)

OK, first question from me: how is your average result with this linear betting methodology? How many sessions won average versus lost? Do you have any suggested win goal / stop-loss values?

Cheers!
Victor

[Kattila]

Interesting Twocando,  i do not understand all,
try to explain please with real numbers,
when to bet positive, and when to bet
negative,  allways after the  last spin ?
Give me an example  with numbers , for Carpet
and other for Wheel, how do you play.

I play something like this on carpet,
but i bet on 8 streets( see Table & 8 streets)
in Full Systems.

[StackBundles]

hows it goin twocando i can kind of make sence of what your saying im thinking this is what we was talking about the other day? i did try tracking the distance after our chat i could see somethings that could work but if you give examples it will be much easier to understand

cheers

[StackBundles]

ok in the text file i tracked the distances for carpet only maybe you could show an example of how you bet with it please

[Jakkalsdraai]

29
35.....................4 pockets left
0.......................3 pockets left
32.....................1 pocket left.......So here we have a betting opportunity. I would bet for the wheel 15,4,21 and for the carpet bet positive so from 32 we move 1 number and bet 33, move 3 numbers and bet 36 move 4 numbers and bet 3

So our bet might look like 15,4,21 (wheel) and 33,36,3 (carpet) could play streets on the carpets too and neigbors on the wheel. Really this is open for your own interpretations.

results:

15W      
8
22
30
9
15
28
35
12
29
1
27
23
34
18
0
28
26
1
30
27
15
10
2
26
29
1
28
29
24

[hamsup_sotong]

hi tcd glad to see that you're on this forum and sharing your knowledge

good having you around.

29
35.....................4 pockets left
0.......................3 pockets left
32.....................1 pocket left.......So here we have a betting opportunity. I would bet for the wheel 15,4,21 and for the carpet bet positive so from 32 we move 1 number and bet 33, move 3 numbers and bet 36 move 4 numbers and bet 3

So our bet might look like 15,4,21 (wheel) and 33,36,3 (carpet) could play streets on the carpets too and neigbors on the wheel. Really this is open for your own interpretations.

its clear for me for the wheel part. However i dont understand the carpet part at all.

cheers
hamsup

[StackBundles]

ok but why 15 4 and 21?

[hamsup_sotong]

if what i understand is correct, we use 32 as a start point


so 4 to the left of 32 is 21

3-4
1-15

so 15,4 21



Hope that im right

Hamsup

[hamsup_sotong]

I wait for a group of 3 numbers movement next to each other on the line and the play that group of number. In total its 3 x 2 = 6 numbers to repeat this distance from the last number. For each following number the next numbers to play will be different but the distances from the last would be to that group that was selected to repeat.

Lets see if there are any comments on this, maybe I'll need to explain it better.

   

does any kind soul here understand whats going on for this part?

hamsup

[Jakkalsdraai]

Guys there are no specific starting point but the first spin of your session I suppose. 

All that TCD is doing is he says that the ball can only end up in one of two places spun from the last number.

So let's say 32 was spun. Draw a line straight through the wheel from 32cutting the wheel in two.

Now you have two halves. One half to the right of 32 and one half to the left of 32. Right?

So now what you do is to track the movement on a linear scale. For instance let's say that to the right is + and to the left is -

-18. -17. -16. -15. -14. -13. -12. -11. -10. -9. -8. -7. -6. -5. -4. -3. -2. -1. 0

+1. +2. +3. +4. +5. +6. +7. +8. +9. +10. +11. +12. +13. +14. +15. +16. +17. +18


Those are your two areas it can go to on the wheel. Positive and negative pockets.


So from 32 let's say the next spin was 8 pockets away to the right. So we mark above +8. Let's say then that from next number, in this case 34 (8 pockets away from 32), we now go 9 pockets to the right (again positive). So we mark above +9.

So at this stage we are at number 10 (9 pockets from 34) and we get another spin also to the right which is 6 pockets away also to the right. This would bring us to number 20.

Now you can all see by marking the pockets movements on the linear line that these three movements are next to each other (guess they do not have to be exactly next to each other but have to be close)

So our movements we work with is 6,8,9 pockets. So you could now play it various ways.You could play it 6,8,9 pockets away either side of the 20 which would give you a six number bet of 10,8,30 and 29,12,28. Or you could say that the movement is always positive for this dealer so only bet the 6,8,9 pockets away on the positive side. If pockets are slighly further apart play neighbors as well.

If you look on the carpet though it went from 32 to 34 to 10 to 20. Just looking at the last movement. 10 - 20 on the wheel is 6 positions or pockets. So now looking at the carpet and looking at 20, we move six positions positive and negative if you like so that gives us 14 and 26. You could play the streets that these two numbers appear in if you like.

[StackBundles]

Could you give some examples of how you attack this please

[Twocando]

Thanks Jak

That's the right way. Could not explain it better, works the same on the carpet.
For the attack - play the movement to repeat. If the movement repeats more than 3 times in 12 spins then there are a trend. Why not play the trend?

If it lose replay and add the next distance from the last.  Only repeat the last - lost numbers with the next new numbers.

If distances is 6/8/9 play the numbers in total 6 chips and if lose replay these 6 and the new numbers from the last. Then in total 12 for the last and 6 for the lost is 18. On a hit 35-17 = 18 profit.
If the third is a lost the double up on the next. or stop and recalculate the distances.

TCD

[VLS]

Thanks Jak

That's the right way. Could not explain it better, works the same on the carpet.
For the attack - play the movement to repeat. If the movement repeats more than 3 times in 12 spins then there are a trend. Why not play the trend?

If it lose replay and add the next distance from the last.  Only repeat the last - lost numbers with the next new numbers.

If distances is 6/8/9 play the numbers in total 6 chips and if lose replay these 6 and the new numbers from the last. Then in total 12 for the last and 6 for the lost is 18. On a hit 35-17 = 18 profit.
If the third is a lost the double up on the next. or stop and recalculate the distances.

TCD

Great sharing spirit. Good on you guys for keeping the spirit alive!

Cheers.

[Twocando]

Jordan, there is an advantage in playing this way. This isn't just a opinion its a fact.

With the changing in speed, that's for the wheel and the ball and even the scatters the repeat of any distance from the last to the next will repeat. This is not just luck or a illusion on what is going to happen.

With VB and all the knowledge of what is going on inside the wheel people still make mistakes with the prediction of the next.

If we look at a way of playing with VB, one need to do the counting of the rotor and ball speed, then count the movement of the ball, with a time factor in seconds to check where the ball is and the dominant drop. With this you can spot the number for the next. Now you can play to that number to hit and if you play 3 numbers then you need to get a hit with in 12 spins. Your way of VB might be different that's not the point. Not everyone is using VB, because it takes a lot of practice and skill. Good for those's who win win VB. For the others that likes to play a simple way let try to look at this way again.

If the movement from the last to the next never repeats then we will never see a repeat of a number sequence. That's for the wheel and the carpet. On the carpet you will notice the chopping, the numbers in a series 21-22-23 or 2-6-8. Even on the wheel 6 pockets from the last and then a repeat of this distance. A even distance from the last that's 2-4-6-8-10-12 pockets from the last will cause the repeat of a colour. As long as this direction is not counting over the zero with the shortest distance to the next, limited to 18 pockets movement. Another fact and not the HG is that the number next to the last will hit. This is again for the carpet and the wheel. No dealer or changes in speed can avoid this, its going to happen.

Let me try to show what this movement does. For this I will use the carpet and the dozens on the carpet. Playing only the dozen to the left from the last. Why? because the previous movement was to the left and playing for the repeat of the movement. If this is not clear and you may say its not going to happen then why not playing the last dozen and the one to the right?

What is the dozen left and right from the last.  Starting from the 3 dozen left to it is the 2 dozen. Left from the second is the 1 dozen and left from the 1 dozen the 3 dozen. This makes the table look like a cylinder with the dozen 1 and dozen 3 attaching to each other. If you go to the right from the 3 dozen then its dozen 1. From dozen 1 to the right its dozen 2.

Right let do a test.
6-31-7-13-7-36-26-6-19-5-16-16-33-1-6-29-24-32-28-6-22-2

This numbers from live table and single zero.
6-31 moved to the right from D1 to D3 play to move right D2
31-7 moved to left LOST play now to the left of D3 that's D1 for the next.
7-13 moved left WIN stay on the repeat. play left from D2
13-7 lost moved right play right D3
7-36 Win play right D2
36-26 a LOST was a 0 movement - Play D3 to stay there.
26-6  a LOST moved to the left. Play left D2 from D1
6-19 Win
19-5   Left
5-16   right
16-16  0 movement
16-33 left
33-1   left
1-6     0 movement
6-29   right
29-24 right
24-32 left
32-28 0 movement
28-6   left
6-22   left
22-2   right

As you can see there is movement and there is a repeat of movement. This is for the carpet and the wheel. A movement did not stay away nor did 1 movement rule the game.  Even if you play just one kind of movement to appear then you will win. Saying if you play to the left from the last or right or 0 movement you would have win, with a small progression.

Now this is my opinion that the movement will repeat and all the movements will appear. That will be on the carpet and the wheel for a distance from 0 to 18 numbers. This gives you an advantage, just look at the movement, analyse it and play the game. You can divide even check the movement with the streets.

Let me know what you think

Thanks TCD