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Started by ripple, May 14, 02:05 PM 2011

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ophis

Quote from: ripple on May 14, 05:59 PM 2011
Impossible...


But I have proved that these numbers do appear consecutively as previously mentioned. All I ask is that you do your own tests before commenting because I proved what I said.

Well. You are wrong.

and here is proof:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/actuals-spins/biasedincorect-spin-data/
Multi Systems Tracker
➨ [url="//rmst.forumer.com"]RMST.forumer.com[/url]

esoito

MODERATOR'S WARNING

Cool down, Ripple.

Your gratuitious insult to a respected member of this forum:

"I feel like I am einstein talking to a peanut Mr Winkel. . . . "

was totally out of order and unacceptable behaviour.

Be warned:  insult a member like that ever again and You. Are. Out. No discussion.

Meanwhile, an apology to Winkel will do much to redeem yourself. A test of character for you...







ZigZag

Quote from: ripple on May 14, 05:59 PM 2011


1 29 22 30 20 0 8 28 2 7 22 16 9 34 3 23 14 21 0 7 22 16 9 34 3 23 14 21 21 27

32 12 13 6 20 20 1 4 31 0 25 31 34 11 33 11 30 16 3 2 18 32 23   




From your numbers. I see the same thing with 0 10 20 30 all the time like magic, but don't know if they appear within say 9 spins of each other consistantly enough to make a profit out of.

Rolletti

I suggest you post your full system INCLUDING the pathfinder.

This would bring a more scientific discussion into the topic and we could do some tests.
Right now we are not talking about the same think, since u keep your system secret.

And by the way, what is your motivation to open a thread saying: I have a winning system, but I will not tell you??

I suggest share it or keep it for u, all of it.

cheers

seykid31

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 14, 05:38 PM 2011
Ripple sir,
I would like to just inform you that idea you have brought
on these pages have been tested on several hundred the.
of real actual spins few years back on old VLS forum and
it didn't pass the test positively,No need arguing and abase
our most respectfull member of our forum with your vain
comments.
I also remember this from old VLS,if Ripple is winning with this good for him,why should he kick it.But to me,its just randomness..i have spins where 23 32,13 31,12 21 hits back to back.
I also notice 22 25,4 7,26 29 clusters back to back..due to us a tendency to locate patterns.
Yesterday i cash in for playing 21,after 19,20 hit..i was seeing a pattern and counting likewise for 12 14 16 hitting.But if you winning with this,hold on to it.
cheers

hanshuckebein

Well, after first reading this approach seemed to be just like another system based on "wishfull thinking" only. I totally agreed with winkel anf F_LAT_INO.

then I took a second look at my usual testing sessions and now I admit, still very carefully though, there might be more to this than meets the eye.  :o

cheers

hans

p.s. and please guys, keep the discussion friendly and constructive.  :)
"Don't criticize what you don't understand. You never walked in that man's shoes." (Elvis Presley)

joiner29

what is the point of starting this thread if you are not prepared to share the pathfinder with everyone, that is the purpose of this brilliant forum SHARING.

7

Quote from: ripple on May 14, 05:59 PM 2011
Impossible. They do not know the pathfinders... They also do not know all the numbers. They just did a flat bet test I guess on millions of spins that one number will follow the other. Again trying to beat the maths. Its impossible so the test I guess was fruitless because of course it won't work.

But I have proved that these numbers do appear consecutively as previously mentioned. All I ask is that you do your own tests before commenting because I proved what I said.

And heres another bit of evidence.

From a database on the VLS site.

Argosy Casino in Lawrenceburg, Indiana September 11, 2005

1 29 22 30 20 0 8 28 2 7 22 16 9 34 3 23 14 21 0 7 22 16 9 34 3 23 14 21 21 27

32 12 13 6 20 20 1 4 31 0 25 31 34 11 33 11 30 16 3 2 18 32 23   

(Total 53 spins, 3 Zero, 0 Double-Zero, 18 Black, 32 Red)

Please note the last 2 spins.

Thus if you know when to play these numbers ie the pathfinder, obviously you win.

A lot.

But no I am not going to put the pathfinders up here....... find your own :)







Is this the path link:://:.fouroulette.com/roulette_system_predict.htm ?

or maybe this

“The stages of the Noble Path are: Right View, Right Thought, Right Speech, Right Behavior, Right Livelihood, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness and Right Concentration.”
Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.) ?

   

esoito

So what if 23 is followed by 32?

Just above, 21 is followed by 21.

All we have are random clusters...nothing new in that.

Random clusters are the molehills on the random playing field.

Perhaps if you reveal the so-called pathfinders instead of teasing (a NO-NO on this forum, by the way) then we can have a debate based on some facts rather than ephemeral musings.

hanshuckebein

@7

thanks a lot for posting the link.  :)

my first testing went  like this:

I only took the numbers given in small letters just for the next spin (last spin = zero,  I then bet only 10; 20; 30).

I used 2728 Spielbank Hamburg live spins.

the first 1000 spins gave 50 winners. the next 1000 spins gave 45 and the last 728 spins 35 winners.

total: 2728 spins resulted in 130 winners.

this testing was only about winners vs. losers.

cheers

hans


"Don't criticize what you don't understand. You never walked in that man's shoes." (Elvis Presley)

7


@Hans

I just did a good test by eye with Toms rng actuals file #922 the first one (must be bet voyager rng roulette) as there is no zeros as this was the only rng actuals in there. Tested the single numbers 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.

Example: An appearance of 2 then check for an appearance of a 2 or a 5 within 15 spins. And/Or an appearance of 5 then check for an appearance of a 5 or a 2 within 15 spinners.

Almost always did the two numbers follow each other in that range of spins.

Can you, FLAT INO or someone explain this who knows about math.

link:://rouletteforum.cc/actuals-spins/spins-from-tom/


F_LAT_INO

Quote from: 7 on May 17, 01:12 PM 2011
@Hans

I just did a good test by eye with Toms rng actuals file #922 the first one (must be bet voyager rng roulette) as there is no zeros as this was the only rng actuals in there. Tested the single numbers 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.

Example: An appearance of 2 then check for an appearance of a 2 or a 5 within 15 spins. And/Or an appearance of 5 then check for an appearance of a 5 or a 2 within 15 spinners.

Almost always did the two numbers follow each other in that range of spins.

Can you, FLAT INO or someone explain this who knows about math.

link:://rouletteforum.cc/actuals-spins/spins-from-tom/


------Why me mate......I always declare myself as a bad math......ideas  I grasp cause of my long experience and cause it is challenge which keeps me going btw.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

hanshuckebein

I'm afraid my math knowledge is far too small to give a serious explanation. maybe bayes could if he's still around?  :)

on the other hand at the begining of this threat ripple statet that this approach can't be explained with math at all.  still, if this should really work, then there must be a reason why it does ...
"Don't criticize what you don't understand. You never walked in that man's shoes." (Elvis Presley)

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: hanshuckebein on May 17, 01:48 PM 2011
I'm afraid my math knowledge is far too small to give a serious explanation. maybe bayes could if he's still around?  :)

on the other hand at the begining of this threat ripple statet that this approach can't be explained with math at all.  still, if this should really work, then there must be a reason why it does ...
But then again,one should know such a reason.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

winkel

It is easy:

everybody knows that the point of most repeat is spin #7 or #8.

So you can easily bet any number to repeat in 8 (or any other number of spins, e.g. 15 like here)
and you will find enormous long streaks of winnings until your caught by the sigma

Everybody who watched DS or length of distances knows that any additional number which is bet will hit in a while (or not)

br
winkel

There is always a game

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