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RANDOM VERSUS RANDOM--WINNING WAYS

Started by F_LAT_INO, Jul 22, 03:41 PM 2010

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F_LAT_INO

Quote from: keel44 on Jul 26, 01:04 PM 2010
Yet again in these forums, people do NOT know how to interpret the testing results.  I have looked over "number 6" test results.  The results are actually very good.  Knowing when to quit is critical.  Any mechanical system will fail long term tests......its in the Maths.  It Does not mean this system "tanked"

Play it one spin at a time like in the real world.  You will find out for sure what to expect.

(like Boo Ray)
Exactly as I pointed out,Keel 44,---One can stop play when some in plus--One can almost predict bad run in this kind of method--It is up to the individual..............
Experienced players know how to do it.I just give a base others should addapt it to
theirs way of playing.





KEEL
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Boo_Ray

Also have you noticed in thread of number6 that it actualy held up for 9000 spins (link:://vlsroulette.com/testing-zone/random-versus-random-winning-ways/?action=dlattach;attach=6075;image).. then it vent down.. with a stoploss that could be prevented

Also... When tested with a stop-loss he stated: "the results are still due to random chance"..
What about the first test then?

He also stated: "In short, the bet selection can't work and betting 3 ECs at the same time will lead to devestating drawdowns"...

Which is clear indicator that he did testing wrong...

Still I am not claiming that this is a longterm winner(maybe it is), but it is good so far and method realy gets thru most of patterns which are actualy prety shortlived..

I never pay much attention to big guys who have "Chief, Dream-Killer" in their signiture just to show how bad ass they are... my advice: Use the least amount of energy to communicate with that species (which is more or less imposible)...If they wan't it that way - let them be that way... Do they do any harm to you? - my prediction: no... So why bother?
In real play I personaly play on physical aproach (to learn that tehniques no computer helped me), but I am still searching for a method that could be played on every table without metting the specified requirements first..
And why not give it a try...

With their powerfull almighty computers they run some random amount of tests... And they get 2 types of results: 1: system doesn't work.. 2: the results is due to random chance...
So the computer is so smart that it even tells you when the result is due to random chance... And from my experience I can tell you that no computarized test will end up good..

number6 is a computer wizzard who never stepped out of his virtual world, that is why he is so "Internet strong" on forums  (some say: internet hero = real life zero) ... That may be offensive for some eyes, but truth speaks for itself.. I know alot of n6 alike humans in real life because I am also computer engineer, but computers are not my life...

lets get back to topic...

Blood Angel


Boo_Ray

Test5: -46 at spin 100... highest peak +25.. maximum drawdown: 81units
+20 @spin 61
at spin 115 it recovered to a positive +6
at spin 134 it recovered to a new high of +32

even though a big drawdaw - it didn't busted the 100 unit bank..
I will go through my tests and check how much bank I needed for that mysterious +15 units which claimed by n6 - 1500unit bank would be needed..



Boo_Ray

For a win goal of +15
Bank needed for test 1: 10units
Bank needed for test 2: 26units
Bank needed for test 3: 7units
Bank needed for test 4: 50units
Bank needed for test 5: 7units

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: Boo_Ray on Jul 27, 02:36 AM 2010
Test5: -46 at spin 100... highest peak +25.. maximum drawdown: 81units
+20 @spin 61
at spin 115 it recovered to a positive +6
at spin 134 it recovered to a new high of +32

even though a big drawdaw - it didn't busted the 100 unit bank..
I will go through my tests and check how much bank I needed for that mysterious +15 units which claimed by n6 - 1500unit bank would be needed.


That is about average as I have stated.
I play last night,from 12-5 this morning 288 spins in continuation
and won 57 units.Also was 24+ at spin 70,then about even at spin 100,
then down 14 at spin 120,and finally won 57 un......which proves its
randomness in natural way.You are doing a great job Boo_Ray,and I think
we could improve this bet to something real worth.Am also working on
it,but it goes slow with me.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

warrior

Quote from: Boo_Ray on Jul 27, 02:36 AM 2010
Test5: -46 at spin 100... highest peak +25.. maximum drawdown: 81units
+20 @spin 61
at spin 115 it recovered to a positive +6
at spin 134 it recovered to a new high of +32

even though a big drawdaw - it didn't busted the 100 unit bank..
I will go through my tests and check how much bank I needed for that mysterious +15 units which claimed by n6 - 1500unit bank would be needed..



BOO RAY ARE YOU PLAYING THIS THE ORIGINAL WAY OR OR THE WAY YOU STATED EARLYER THANX.W

Boo_Ray

I test the original way.. but never betting both collors at the same time

warrior

Quote from: Boo_Ray on Jul 27, 09:08 AM 2010
I test the original way.. but never betting both collors at the same time
OK THANX W.

F_LAT_INO

Gents,
I have just did some re checkings on 46 tested sessions.
Winning 37 and losing 9 sessions,would be profit of 1403 units.

Then re checked same sessions the way N6 suggested-stop win-15 units.
In this case there would be 42 winning sessions out of 46,
but the profit would only be 290 units.

It speaks for itself.
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F_LAT_INO

Quote from: Boo_Ray on Jul 27, 09:08 AM 2010
I test the original way.. but never betting both collors at the same time
Boo_Ray,
Forgive my ignorance,but am confused some about your way.
Could you kindly explain it with several spins.
R
R
B
R
R
R
B
R
B
B
B
R
B

As I cant grasp it as yet,as it little differ from the idea I have.
You can always get me on  
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Blood Angel

I believe it's card differential betting. Let's say YOUR method Iboba says to bet 2 on black and 1 on red ,then the bet would be one on black only.(take lowest away from highest and bet the difference) As Boo_Ray says this would save chips when the zero hits.

Boo_Ray

R
R
bet1 on R
B
bet 1 on B
R
Bet 1 on R
R profit +1 start again
bet 1 on R
R profit +1 start again
Bet 1 on R
B
Bet 1 on R
R
Bet 1 on R
B
Bet 2 on B
B profit +1 start again
Bet 1 on B
B profit +1 start again
Bet 1 on B
R
Bet 1 on B
B

I think I did it right... I am not used to make tests here on board

Boo_Ray

Quote from: Blood Angel on Jul 27, 01:54 PM 2010
I believe it's card differential betting. Let's say YOUR method Iboba says to bet 2 on black and 1 on red ,then the bet would be one on black only.(take lowest away from highest and bet the difference) As Boo_Ray says this would save chips when the zero hits.

:thumbsup:

F_LAT_INO

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