Even Chance Progression

[GLC]

Ultimate Even Chance Progression:

If lose   Bet Amount   If win
-1     1 (x1)        +1
-3     2        +1
-7     4        +1
-15     8        +1

-21     6 (x2)        +3
-29     8        +3
-39     10        +1
-52     13        0
-70     18        +2

-81     11 (x3)        +7
-93     12        +3
-107     14        +5
-123     16        +5
-141     18        +3
-162     21        +6
-186     24        +6
-213     27        +3

-228     15 (x4)        +12
-244     16        +12
-261     17        +11
-279     18         +9
-298     19        +6
-318     20        +2
-340     22        +12
-363     23        +5
-388     25        +12
-414     26        +2
-442     28        +6
-472     30        +8

We need about 450 unit bank.

This progression is based on starting with a mini-martingale 1-2-4-8.  Since we win most of our bets in the first 4 attempts, this will win us most of our units.

If we happen to lose 4 times in a row, we start betting let-it-ride 1 time.  We drop back from an 8 unit loss to a 6 unit bet because we are -15 units after losing 1-2-4-8.  If we win a 6 unit bet, we will have 12 units to let-it-ride.  If we win this let-it-ride bet, we will have 24 units on the table minus the 6 we bet = +18 units less the 15 already lost = +3 units and we start over again with 1 unit bet.

We have 5 chances to win at a let-it-ride 2X before we go to  a let-it-ride 3x series.  And if we don't win in the 3 time let-it-ride series, we go to the 4X let-it-ride series.

All we are trying to do is get a streak of wins in a row to recover previous losses and reach a new high.  Then we continue betting at the 1-2-4-8 level.

George

[albertojonas]

this is so cool
looks unbeatable even for straight betting black

thx george

[Wally Gator]

Very cool, indeed.

Gotta check this one out.

Thanks, George.

[GLC]

I've been tinkering around with this bet progression.  I haven't lost a full progression yet.  I must admit that if I get too far along in the progression, I tend to jump back to the left to smaller bets.

If you keep a copy of the chart I made, you can use conscious decisions to if things start getting too wild.  If you are betting say 22 in the 4X category and you win a couple fo let-it-rides and you find yourself at -186 from your highest bank, you can always drop back to betting 24 in the 3X category.

You can use a lot of creativity with this. 

You can always create your own progression.  This is just an idea.  I only picked these stages to show the idea.

You could start with 1-2-4-8-16.  The next bet would be 11 let-it-ride  would look like this:
11 Win = 22 Win = 44-11=33-31 (1+2+4+8+16=31) = +2  Start over with 1-2-4-8-16.

My whole idea is to us a limited marty of 3 or 4 or 5 or even 6 steps.  Most of the time we will be winning withing our limited marty and not even have to go to the let-it-ride sections.  We can stay in the 2X area longer and the 3X longer etc...  We can use a 1000 unit bank and on a system like pattern 4, we should be able to win forever. 

Anyway, I think it's worth having in your arsenal of progression ideas.

GLC

[Smee]

GLC - this may be exactly what i need, however im really confused. I have a good EC system but the progression fails me.

Can you please explain this a little more? I get the first martingale part but I dont understand the let it ride part.

Thanks heaps.

[LuckyLucy]

Thanks for that, ill give it a try!

[monaco]

hi GLC, this is a thing of beauty!!

[mogwai]

This is really nice 

In the 4x level it might get a bit scary though!!

Best Regards

[GLC]

GLC - this may be exactly what I need, however I'm really confused. I have a good EC system but the progression fails me.

Can you please explain this a little more? I get the first martingale part but I don't understand the let it ride part.

Thanks heaps.

Sorry to take so long to get back to you  Smee but I'm on vacation and can only log on in the evening.

I knew the progression was a little complicated but I didn't want to get too detailed unless someone really wanted me to.

So, everybody should understand the first 4 bets because they are just a 4 step regular martingale.  Like I said, this will catch most of the wins in any even chance system that's worth playing.

If/when you lose 4 bets, you will have lost 15 units.  There are numerous ways we can go at this point.  

We could just take the loss and start over with 1-2-4-8 and hope that our bet selection wins enough for all the 1 unit wins to stay ahead of the 15 unit losses.  Takes a really strong bet selection for this.  I'm not sure anybody has found it yet.

We could go to a larger marty, say 3-6-12-24.  Play until we win 5 times which will recover all 15 lost units.  This adds an increased element of danger because if we happen to lose at 3-6-12-24 before we recover the 15 lost units, we go 45 units into the hole on top of any non-recovered units.

We could play until we win 3 times which will recover 9 of the 15 lost units.  Then drop back to 1-2-4-8 to recover the rest of them.  This is not a bad compromise.

There are numerous other possibilities I won't go into for the sake of brevity.

With this progression, I have elected to use a boffins or let-it-ride method.  This means that we bet, in this case, 6 units.  If we win, we have 12 units on the table, so we leave all 12 units for the next bet.  If we win, we have 24 units on the table.  Six of those units are our original bet which leaves 18 units won.  If we subtract the 15 units we lost in our first 4 bets, we find that we are +3 units so we can start over again with our 1-2-4-8 martingale.

If we lose either the 6 unit bet or if we win and then lose the 12 unit bet, we must move to the next level which is 8 units.  We are now -15 from our 1-2-4-8 marty plus 6 units from our first recovery bet which equals 21 units in the hole.

If we bet 8 units and if we win, we leave the 16 units for the next bet and win that one also, we will have 32 units on the table less the original 8 unit bet -21 previously lost units equals -29.  We have 32 -29 = +3 units.  Start over at 1-2-4-8.

As you can see, we have 6-8-10-13 & 18 unit bets at the 2 times level.  If we lose all 5 bets at this level, instead of continuing to increase the size of our bets so that a single let-it-ride will make us whole, which will escalate our bets too quickly, we move to the 3 times let-it-ride level.

This first bet at the 3 times level is 11 units.  We bet 11 units, if we win we have 22 units on the table.  We leave all 22 units on the table for the next bet, if we win this we have 44 units on the table, we leave all 44 units on the table for the next bet, if we win this bet we will have 88 units on the table.  11 units are our original bet and 77 units are units we won from the casino.  We are down 70 units (1-2-4-8-6-8-10-13-18=70).  Subtract that from our 77 units won and we are +7 units and can start over at 1-2-4-8.

At the 4X level we just bet 4 times before full recovery.  Our original bet and 3 let-it-ride bets.

Any time we win the full number of bets, we will be at a new high bank and can start over at 1-2-4-8.

There is nothing sacred about this progression.  It can be adjusted to suit you risk quotient.  You can bet 1-2-4-8-16 for your marty.  Then just adjust the bet sizes at 2X.

You can bet more times or less times at each level.

Remember when betting at the 3x or 4x level.  If you win say 3 times at 15 that's 15+15=30+30=60+60=120.  Now you have another bet of 120 to fully recover.  You could not bet the 120 unit bet, rather drop back down your progression to a level where you only have 120 units to recover and begin betting at that level.  This keeps your bets from escalating too rapidly on a very poor run.

A word of caution.  You are hoping for 2 then 3 then 4 wins in a row.  Test this progression thoroughly so you know what the risks are.  You can and probably will at some point lose a full progression.  You must be prepared to risk as many units as are necessary to insure maximum chance to recover.  I have tested this on the author's system of betting Same/Opposite/Same/Opposite etc... with excellent results.  I have yet to go beyond the 14 units bet in the 3X level.

Having said that, I think this offers us a lot of control over our bet sizes.  And, we can recover rather quickly compared to other bet progressions.

Test it and tell me what you think.  We're in this together and any and all feedback is crucial for all of us to know fully what the risks are when we put hard earned money on the table.

LoL to all,

George

[mogwai]

Well I tested it over 65 Baccarat shoes. It gave 561.95 units after commission.

It did go once to the last level of 30 units x4 though 

Still if it had busted there it would have given some 50 units profit.

Best Regards

[monaco]

hi mogwai, you didn't happen to keep any record of on which levels you won did you?
or do you know roughly how many times you had to go to x3, x4 levels?

cheers

[GLC]

Just in case a newbie is looking at this bet progression, I want to clarify that when I say let-it-ride, I don't mean that you have to bet the very next spin.  If you are using a trigger system, you let-it-ride on your next betting opportunity, not necessarily on your next spin.

[monaco]

hey George, how are you?

Can i ask you also, as the thread-starter for this, have you had good records of success with it?

I've tried it over the last few days & have a profit of 280 units so far.. I've hit the 5th level 4 times, 6th level twice, & 9th level once.

I'm trying to incorporate it into an idea I had with the dozens but couldn't make work, but now your progression seems to fit the bill..

[mogwai]

Well I do not have detailed records but it only once hit the 4th level, in the case I mentioned which almost busted.

And also 3-4 times in the 3rd level, only once I think to the last bet, the others up to the middle bets.

Best Regards

[GLC]

I'm sorry to say that I don't have detailed records for this bet progression.

I often post ideas on the forum so I don't lose them.  I can always find them here with the search feature.

Also, this gives others the chance to have a brilliant idea triggered, possibly, by one of my mediocre ideas.

I have tested this progression a fair amount but not enough to have ever lost the whole progression as posted above. 

I can guarantee that it will eventually lose!  None of these progressions are lose-proof.
But, this progression does hold up pretty well.
What I am trying to do is come up with different progressions that may work better with certain systems than other progressions do.

Determining which progression works best with your bet selection method takes a lot of work.  To be honest, you may determine that a certain progression fits your system to a tee and then all of a sudden it falls flat because the spins you play can be so different over the coarse of time that there is no one progression that works always.

A good way to test a bet progression against your system is to write out a session with your system as (w)ins and (l) like this wwllwlllwwlwl:l:lllwwll:wlwwl:wlllwlwwlllww and then see how different progressions would have done had you used them on that series.

Test enough series this way, and 1 or 2 progressions should start rising to the top and eventually you should have the one you like the most.  That's about the best way to pick a progression.

It has been pointed out somewhere else on this forum that some progressions do work better than others in certain situations.  For example the following loses to every progression except a 9 step martingale. LLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLW etc...

So, given that we can come up with a w/l sequence that only 1 progression can survive with, it does mean that there are some progressions that do better with a certain w/l sequence, but not necessarily a specific bet selection method.  That's because any bet selection method may produce the above w/l sequence.

This marrying a perfect bet progression to a specific bet selection method is not an easy task and in fact there may not be any such thing.

I know this may not have helped much.  But, I think it represents reality.

The most important thing to remember is that no bet progression will guarantee that a specific bet selection method will never lose.

And finally, this bet progression becomes more and more volatile the further into it you get.  I think it's almost imperative that you exercise the options to not place the last bet for a full recovery at the 3X and 4X levels, but rather drop back 4 or 5 levels, what ever is appropriate, to give yourself more opportunities to recover gradually.

Luck to all,

GLC