CODE 4

[amk]

Hello Ophis,

That was just your 444 post.........

[Chrisbis]

Don't you mean his :-

4
  4
    4

post?

[atlantis]

Safer play using SLIDE against "symmetrical" diagonal QUADS forming using CODE 4 style MATRIX.
This time betting with standard progression 1-1,3-3,9-9,27-27 as usual - but only after 2 L's in succession recorded... More patience required but *could* be worth it!

[reveal]
2 a 3 a
a 2 a 2
2 c 1 c 
b 2 a 2 - Wcol1; Wcol4 (the bets will always be col1 or col4 or both)
2 b 1 b - W; W 
c 2 a 1 - W; W
2 b 3 a - W
b 1 b 3 - W; L
3 a 2 c - L; L                     -2     (1st step 1-1 lost)
c 1 a 3 - W; W                  +1     (2nd step 3-3 won)
2 b 1 a - W
a 1 b 3 - L               
2 a 2 a - W; W   
b 1 c 2 - L; W
2 c 3 b - W         
a 1 b 3 - L
3 b 1 a - W
b 1 c 2 - L; L
2 a 2 a  - W                      +2   (1st step 1-1 won)
b 3 c 3  - W
3 a 3 a  - L
b 1 a 2  - W; L
1 c 2 c  - L; W                   +3   (1st step 1-1 won)
a 3 b 3  - W
3 c 2 b  - L; W
a 3 b 2  - W
3 b 2 a  - W
c 2 c 1  - W; W
3 a 3 c  - W
a 2 b 2 -  W; L
2 a 1 b -  no bet
b 2 a 3 -  no bet
2 b 3 c - W; W
a 2 b 1 - L; W
3 c 3 c - W; W
b 1 c 3 - L; L
2 c 3 c - W; W                   +4 (1st step 1-1 won)
b 2 c 3 - W; W
3 b 3 c - W; W
c 2 a 2 - W; W
2 c 1 c - L; W
a 3 c 2 - L
3 b 2 c - L
a 3 a 1 - W                        +5 (1st step 1-1 won)
1 a 1 b - W; L     
b 3 a 2 - W; W
[/reveal]

Yippee.

Anyone else wanna try? 

A.
(NB. results from BV NoZero)

[atlantis]

Today tried the last posted session from Normy2000 in albalaha's spins section (image from SmartLive low limit auto roulette) from 02 Aug 2011.

Again playing SLIDE on "symmetrical" QUADS in a code 4 style matrix after 2 consecutive L's
only. [progression 1-1,3-3,9-9,27-27]

Here are the results of first 144 out of the 145 spins. The longest losing run was amazingly only 2; but for safety's sake and maybe overdue caution I will stick to playing only after 2 back to back recorded L's. Nice results.

[reveal]
2b3b
a2c2
3c1c
b1b2 L;W
1b1a W
a1b3 W;L
3b2b W;L
b1c3 W
1a2c
c2b1
1a2a W;L
b1a2 W
3b3c W;L
a2a2 W
3b2a L;L
a2b1 W       (WON AT 1ST STEP 1-1)     +1
3a1b W;W
c1a1 W
2c3a W;L
a1c1 L
1c3c W;L    (WON AT FIRST STEP 1-1)  +2
c3b3 W
3c2c W
c3b1 W;W
3c3c W;W
c2a2 W;W
3c3b W
a2a1 L;W
2c1c W;W
b3a3
2a3a W;W
b3b2 W;L
2a1a W;L
a3b1 W
1b3a L
c2c2 W;L
2b1c
a1a2 L
3c2b W       (WON AT FIRST STEP 1-1)     +3
c1b1 W;L
3c3c W
a1c3 W;W
3b3c L;L
c1c3 W;W   (WON AT FIRST STEP 1-1)      +4
2c2c W
b2c2 W

+4u profit.

[/reveal]

As stated before; PATIENCE REQUIRED AND IS THE KEY. Very encouraging indeed!

A.

[Kingspin]

Atlantis 144 spins means virtually nothing .  I honestly think no matter how many spins any system is played over the result is a loss after x amount of spins.  X could be 4 spins or 400 or 4000 . This is just my own opinion .

On a positive note , code 4 is a good bet though.

[Johnlegend]

Today tried the last posted session from Normy2000 in albalaha's spins section (image from SmartLive low limit auto roulette) from 02 Aug 2011.

Again playing SLIDE on "symmetrical" QUADS in a code 4 style matrix after 2 consecutive L's
only. [progression 1-1,3-3,9-9,27-27]

Here are the results of first 144 out of the 145 spins. The longest losing run was amazingly only 2; but for safety's sake and maybe overdue caution I will stick to playing only after 2 back to back recorded L's. Nice results.

[reveal]
2b3b
a2c2
3c1c
b1b2 L;W
1b1a W
a1b3 W;L
3b2b W;L
b1c3 W
1a2c
c2b1
1a2a W;L
b1a2 W
3b3c W;L
a2a2 W
3b2a L;L
a2b1 W       (WON AT 1ST STEP 1-1)     +1
3a1b W;W
c1a1 W
2c3a W;L
a1c1 L
1c3c W;L    (WON AT FIRST STEP 1-1)  +2
c3b3 W
3c2c W
c3b1 W;W
3c3c W;W
c2a2 W;W
3c3b W
a2a1 L;W
2c1c W;W
b3a3
2a3a W;W
b3b2 W;L
2a1a W;L
a3b1 W
1b3a L
c2c2 W;L
2b1c
a1a2 L
3c2b W       (WON AT FIRST STEP 1-1)     +3
c1b1 W;L
3c3c W
a1c3 W;W
3b3c L;L
c1c3 W;W   (WON AT FIRST STEP 1-1)      +4
2c2c W
b2c2 W

+4u profit.

[/reveal]

As stated before; PATIENCE REQUIRED AND IS THE KEY. Very encouraging indeed!

A.

Wow Atlantis is pushing the envelope again. Keep us posted with this incarnations progress Atlantis. I am sure you Katilla and Warior are spawned from the same rock of morphing genius. You see what others don't. Amk too could be added to this to make a fantastic 4. Imagine you all get together and formulate THEE CODE.

What I tend to do Atlantis is latch onto the first Idea I am impressed with and test the hell outve it. But I am aware there are superb tweaks and morphing going on all the time. I will forever be grateful to you and Twister (Paul) who I miss, for helping me realize the Matrix Verticals potential. Now we are pushing to even higher levels.

I am still fascinated by Katillas Pyramid idea. And I am not too proud to say I never full grasped it. But I would like to investigate it further. So Katilla. Bring it onboard if you read this...

[Johnlegend]

JohnLegend..........your just getting started.............


Hello, atlantis........

Amazing, this past week I was looking into similar CODE 4 methods..............
I think your approach:

2A2B
B2B3
1C2A
A3C2..... bet against 2 landing

has the greatest potential............
Ever line changes order from doz/co/doz/col to col/doz/col/doz
This approach really throws random off...........
It's even difficult just typing it in
It might in fact create the possibility of ALWAYS just betting against 2222 forming diagonally?......
Being able to cover the zero would take CODE 4 to another level......


xupamajaita 1300 wins..... did you play real 1 cent RNG?............

AMK I like this. I wasnt too sure about betting against a back to back diagonal code repeating. But THIS looks very promising. I will start testing this as I play the normal slide for the columns.

[atlantis]

Hi John, amk

Yes it works that way splendidly. Here are my earlier results Using SLIDE to bet against PERFECT DIAGONAL QUADS ONLY in a CODE 4 style Matrix...
e.g.: betting against diagonal 222 becoming 2222; or diagonal bbb becoming bbbb
Continuous.

[reveal]
2 a 3 a
a 2 a 2
2 c 1 c - first 12 results 
b 2 a 2
3 b 3 a
a 2 c 3
3 c 2 b
c 1 c 2
3 b 3 a 
a 1 b 2
1 b 1 a 
b 1 a 3 
3 b 3 c 
c 2 a 2
1 c 3 a
c 3 a 3
1 b 3 b
c 3 b 2 
2 b 1 b - W col1
c 2 a 1 - W col1
2 b 3 a
b 1 b 3 
3 a 2 c
c 1 a 3
2 b 1 a 
a 1 b 3 
2 a 2 a 
b 1 c 2 
2 c 3 b 
a 1 b 3 
3 b 1 a
b 1 c 2 - L col1
2 a 2 a
b 3 c 3
3 a 3 a
b 1 a 2
1 c 2 c
a 3 b 3
3 c 2 b 
a 3 b 2
3 b 2 a
c 2 c 1  - W col1
3 a 3 c  - W col1
a 2 b 2
2 a 1 b
b 2 a 3
2 b 3 c - W col4
a 2 b 1
3 c 3 c - W col4
b 1 c 3
2 c 3 c
b 2 c 3 - W col1
3 b 3 c
c 2 a 2
2 c 1 c
a 3 c 2
3 b 2 c - L col4
a 3 a 1 
1 a 1 b     
b 3 a 2

+5

[/reveal]
A.

Update: Just did another session on BV (with ZERO this time) playing same way:
232 spins
+9u profit
LW record: LWWWWWWWLLWLW
Six Step 1 wins
Two Step 2 wins
One Step 3 win

[Johnlegend]

Hi John, amk

Yes it works that way splendidly. Here are my earlier results Using SLIDE to bet against PERFECT DIAGONAL QUADS ONLY in a CODE 4 style Matrix...
e.g.: betting against diagonal 222 becoming 2222; or diagonal bbb becoming bbbb
Continuous.

[reveal]
2 a 3 a
a 2 a 2
2 c 1 c - first 12 results 
b 2 a 2
3 b 3 a
a 2 c 3
3 c 2 b
c 1 c 2
3 b 3 a 
a 1 b 2
1 b 1 a 
b 1 a 3 
3 b 3 c 
c 2 a 2
1 c 3 a
c 3 a 3
1 b 3 b
c 3 b 2 
2 b 1 b - W col1
c 2 a 1 - W col1
2 b 3 a
b 1 b 3 
3 a 2 c
c 1 a 3
2 b 1 a 
a 1 b 3 
2 a 2 a 
b 1 c 2 
2 c 3 b 
a 1 b 3 
3 b 1 a
b 1 c 2 - L col1
2 a 2 a
b 3 c 3
3 a 3 a
b 1 a 2
1 c 2 c
a 3 b 3
3 c 2 b 
a 3 b 2
3 b 2 a
c 2 c 1  - W col1
3 a 3 c  - W col1
a 2 b 2
2 a 1 b
b 2 a 3
2 b 3 c - W col4
a 2 b 1
3 c 3 c - W col4
b 1 c 3
2 c 3 c
b 2 c 3 - W col1
3 b 3 c
c 2 a 2
2 c 1 c
a 3 c 2
3 b 2 c - L col4
a 3 a 1 
1 a 1 b     
b 3 a 2

+5

[/reveal]
A.

Update: Just did another session on BV (with ZERO this time) playing same way:
232 spins
+9u profit
LW record: LWWWWWWWLLWLW
Six Step 1 wins
Two Step 2 wins
One Step 3 win

Yes Atlantis, the turnover appears more fluid than just columns alone. And there are more step 1 wins. Someones given THE MATRIX SLIDE a SUPER TWEAK.

I think a new thread will be required for the CODE SLIDER. Atlantis, Amk. Keep me posted as to how solid this is. I can see it going a long way played HIT AND RUN. Maybe even better than CODE 4s 642.

[atlantis]

Hi JohnL,

Yes played HIT'N'RUN could be good. For extra safety could play after a virtual L... but would take longer of course and might not even be required. It would be good to find alternative progression other than the standard 1-1,3-3,9-9,27-27 - but hey, if it works then no problem

A.

[Johnlegend]

Hi JohnL,

Yes played HIT'N'RUN could be good. For extra safety could play after a virtual L... but would take longer of course and might not even be required. It would be good to find alternative progression other than the standard 1-1,3-3,9-9,27-27 - but hey, if it works then no problem

A.

I know you are not keen on that 80 unit risk Atlantis. With quite a few wins on STEP 1 I wonder how a two step progression would pan out. With 6 units. So we aim for the win on STEP 1--BREAK EVEN on STEP 2 And take the loss if it goes to STEP 3. I think HIT AND RUN its worth testing. It all comes down to what percentage a 100 games gives us on the first step. If we are getting around a 60% strikerate. Or even more importantly no more than 10% of games going to step 3. There will be serious potential here to put a smaller progression on the line.

And of course if that yields positive results it will be more appealing.

[atlantis]

Hi JL,
Another idea to possibly quickly recoup a losing diagonal QUAD might be to continue betting against that result occurring on a reverse diagonal.

c 2 a 2
2 c 1 c
a 3 c 2
3 b 2 c - L 1-1@ col4 (c-c-c-c) Now bet against c forming a reverse diagonal...
a 3 a 1 - W 3-3 @col3 (c-c-c-c-a) 
1 a 1 b     
b 3 a 2

Cheers,
A.

[Johnlegend]

Hi JL,
Another idea to possibly quickly recoup a losing diagonal QUAD might be to continue betting against that result occurring on a reverse diagonal.

c 2 a 2
2 c 1 c
a 3 c 2
3 b 2 c - L 1-1@ col4 (c-c-c-c) Now bet against c forming a reverse diagonal...
a 3 a 1 - W 3-3 @col3 (c-c-c-c-a) 
1 a 1 b     
b 3 a 2

Cheers,
A.

Atlantis you are stepping it up again. BRILLIANT! Ive never seen a reverse. Maybe a grail like method in itself.

[atlantis]

Example of using reverse SLIDE after losing diagonal QUADS in a code 4 style MATRIX.
Original earlier result produced +5
With fast recoup using reverse slide = +9

[reveal]
2 a 3 a
a 2 a 2
2 c 1 c - first 12 results 
b 2 a 2
3 b 3 a
a 2 c 3
3 c 2 b
c 1 c 2
3 b 3 a 
a 1 b 2
1 b 1 a 
b 1 a 3 
3 b 3 c 
c 2 a 2
1 c 3 a
c 3 a 3
1 b 3 b
c 3 b 2 
2 b 1 b - W col1 (3-3-3-2)
c 2 a 1 - W col1 (b-b-b-c)
2 b 3 a
b 1 b 3 
3 a 2 c
c 1 a 3
2 b 1 a 
a 1 b 3 
2 a 2 a 
b 1 c 2 
2 c 3 b 
a 1 b 3 
3 b 1 a
b 1 c 2 - L col1 (b-b-b-b)
2 a 2 a  - W col2 (using reverse slide b-b-b-b-a)
b 3 c 3
3 a 3 a
b 1 a 2
1 c 2 c
a 3 b 3
3 c 2 b 
a 3 b 2
3 b 2 a
c 2 c 1  - W col1 (b-b-b-c)
3 a 3 c  - W col1 (2-2-2-3)
a 2 b 2
2 a 1 b
b 2 a 3
2 b 3 c - W col4 (a-a-a-c)
a 2 b 1
3 c 3 c - W col4 (b-b-b-c)
b 1 c 3
2 c 3 c
b 2 c 3 - W col1 (c-c-c-b)
3 b 3 c
c 2 a 2
2 c 1 c
a 3 c 2
3 b 2 c - L col4 (c-c-c-c)
a 3 a 1 - W col3 (using reverse slide c-c-c-c-a)
1 a 1 b     
b 3 a 2

+9
[/reveal]

A.

[vundarosa]

@atlantis,
I posted this on the matrix slide thread as well.
I tested 200 consecutive lines and had 1 loss of the progression and ended with +96u profit


this is how i'm testing it
I did not play a slide if a zero was involved.
Betting both right and left slides

                     right                left             
3 A 2 C
1 0 1 B   
3 C 2 A   
1 B 2 B                   first 12 spins
2 C 3 A            l1 col2                       w col3 
3 B 3 C            w col3 
3 C 2 B   
1 C 3 A             w col2              l1 col3 
3 A 2 B                                   w col2 
1 C 1 B   
3 B 1 C              w                                  w 
3 A 1 C   
2 A 2 B   
3 C 1 A              w                     l1 
0 A 3 A                                      w 
2 C 1 C   
1 B 3 A              w                    l1 
1 B 2 C                                    w 
3 C 1 C 


vundarosa