CODE 4

[amk]

Hello everyone,

I guess we will just have to agree that we disagree........

Everybody has there point of view and we now know we have for and against HIT AND RUN....

Hope we can now continue on with posting results and ideas about CODE 4 and if we are still lucky enough JohnLegends new method

Please don't feel discouraged JohnLegend, many of us are here in full support and would be very sad if you left us........

Hope we may hear from you soon again....

Wishing everybody a great 4rth of July

[Bayes]

Hi Lucy,

It isn't just my opinion, hit and run really doesn't work. So am I not allowed to criticise a system unless I have something better to share?

I haven't attacked JL or made any personal remarks, he's perfectly free to discuss and put his arguments forward, but so far he hasn't, nor does he seem interested in doing so. It wasn't my intention to accuse him of making stuff up, and I welcome any other members coming forward to back up his results.

I'm not a 'doom merchant', and yes I do have approaches which win consistently, but this isn't the thread to share them.

This is supposed to be a forum, not just a repository of systems, that means we should be able to be grown-up and have sensible debates. If they get heated now and again, well, that's life. As long as we don't stoop to insults and making personal attacks then it's all good. 

[Bayes]

I guess we will just have to agree that we disagree........

Ok, that's probably the best thing to do. If I've offended John, I'd like to apologise.

[warrior]

Hello everyone,

I guess we will just have to agree that we disagree........

Everybody has there point of view and we now know we have for and against HIT AND RUN....

Hope we can now continue on with posting results and ideas about CODE 4 and if we are still lucky enough JohnLegends new method

Please don't feel discouraged JohnLegend, many of us are here in full support and would be very sad if you left us........

Hope we may hear from you soon again....

Wishing everybody a great 4rth of July

John does not get offended that easy trust me.

[D1]

Regardless of what anyone thinks I for one and I'm sure there are others would like to hear what you have To say JL.

And I think the moderators should take a hand in it if anyone is going to be put off posting because they are being put down before they are even given a chance to show what they have.

I put post up for Drazen the other day just to have a sarcastic comment posted behind it when all I was trying to do was to explain to him what I had seen on several occasions whilst playing roulette.

D1.

[Bayes]

Come on people, let's not be too sensitive. One thing I will admit is that if you believe in hit and run and play that way, it won't make your chances any worse. 

[Bayes]

Ok, this is the dilemma. I have tested PATTERN 4, both hit and run and 'continuously' and there was no difference in the results. John claims otherwise. What am I to conclude? it works for him but doesn't work for me? what use is a system which works for one person but not another?

Now, John would maintain that I wasn't playing it 'properly', but I've followed his directions to the letter. Now what?

[LuckyLucy]

 

Well its great that we can a ll work towards the common good! Hugs to you all!

Lucy

[superman]

but I've followed his directions to the letter

Yes me too, a few times on different methods, I welcome any new methods, the fact that they get tested thoroughly to death seems to upset a few people, well, I would rather know sooner than later if a method is going to fail eventually.

I think the main problem fo Fender is, the 1st method he gave the forum, The Zone, was so hyped up that the thread grew to a large amount of pages, and the use of certain phraseology "I will personally pay for and take members to vegas and we will kill the casinos etc" but where is the zone now? in the archives.

Anyone who posts what they think is a method worth investigating OR needing further development must know that somebody is going to have a different view to them, that's just life, there will be arguments and heated discussions along the way.

If Fenders new system is going to put 2 fingers up to the nay sayers then why retract it or decide not to post it? afterall this new one is supposed to be for long term use not hit n run, which is the big problem here lately, hit n run seems like scared play to me, but thats another debate completely.

@ John, if what you have is going to do the job, you have plenty of followers here, ignore us that are going to code/bot/run your method until it fails, you say it wont fail, that's what we all hope for, over to you.

[warrior]

i have been in the  mixed martial arts for over 20 years, one thing for sure   to become a black belt in jiujitsu you need to put your blood on the mat other wise your doomed no easy way ok.in JEET KUNE DO  I STUDIED IT a lot EVEN BEFORE THE UFC was popular,i was applying it on the street,we have a saying,and i will share it with all of you ,THIS IS A QUOTE FROM MASTER BRUCE LEE ,REJECT WHAT IS USELESS AND ADD WAS IS YOUR OWN ,AND ONLY FROM THAT YOU WILL GROW AS A MARTIAL ARTIST. apply that to all the strategies on this form and you will see what i mean . What does JEET KUNE DO MEAN,the way of the intersepting fist,or foot bruce lee realised that by intersepting an opponent s move as he was about to attack, messes up his train of thought or attack,if you watch a football game or any sports when there is an interseption people go crazy,on the street you better believe it when you jab a guy in the eyes as he is moving he will go down fast , thats is the point of HIT AND RUN GET IN GET OUT ,A FIGHT IS NOT GOING TO last 1 hour it will be over in a few seconds ,I HOPE YOU LEARNEd something about martial arts   i live my life by it WARRIOR.

[ZeroBlue]

stop being childish. 


WE post things so we can discuss them wright?


Zer0BLue

[amk]

Hello ZeroBlue,

Any CODE 4 updates out there yet, ZeroBlue?
You play until a virtual loss then start playing against the next pattern, correct?
Do you just play one game or 2?

[vundarosa]

"So someone who plays 20 games in a row is much more likely to fail than someone who plays the 20 games only a couple at a time, even though they've both played exactly the same number of spins."

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I have to agree with Bayes here. I don't see any difference from playing continuously or hit & run, in the way its defined here, as short play then walk away.

one is equally likely to find the winning/losing spins by playing hit & run or continously...say you play continously, win 10u then have a loss, playing for 2u will not change the fact that next time you play you can have a loss....in fact it might well be that each time you start you'll enter at the wrong time and have a loss after another, while the guy who just started one spin latter is winning time and time again by playing continously...

vundarosa

[amk]

Hello Vundarosa,

JohnLegends results with HIT AND RUN speak for themself.....
Look at his systems, his updates and the story is clear.....
ZeorBlues own results are astonishing, has any ever heard of 1000 straight wins?
Ofcourse there was a trigger but HIT AND RUN was the key as well....

We can debate for or against but we are just spinning in circles....
All we can do is spin in the fashion we like and update the results.....

Don't give up on us JL........

[vundarosa]

Maybe all the pattern games can be played continously.....

think of this, what is making us win so often when betting 9 spins latter, against the 1st pattern?! We have players here with nearly the same strike rate but they are not playing the same spins,same table or even at the same time. It must have to do with the probability of the first patter repeating as the 4th pattern. So if one starts at the first spin of the day, he will be as likely to win his game as the next player who started, 1 spin latter, on the second spin of the day. The same would be true for the following player and all the others after him. They will all have different patterns to bet against and with the same probability of winning.

In that case, to play continuously, after a win, one would have to form his new pattern to bet against by moving to one spin apart from the previous pattern.

vundarosa