CODE 4

[unre4lbg]

Im now playing CODE 4 like this:

Waiting for a match in the forth matrix with the first and then bet 1-1/3-3/9-9 (thinking of covering the zero ot the last step) 3 sessions for 2 units. Starting with a bankroll of 120 units.

And in the meanwhile CODE 4 originally played has never met a lost in my 120 games records. I think im playing just AS JohnLegend said - HIT and RUN (making 2-3-4 hours brakes between sessions) 8 games,+ or - im out, in those 8 games usually there is a match in the first so i can place a bet.

Thanks for the great method!! I just HOPE when i loose sooner or later, i can manage to recover for a couple  of days , not being in  a circle of losses when my BR will be eaten.. after all im a poor student lol

[atlantis]

I'm now playing CODE 4 like this:

Waiting for a match in the forth matrix with the first and then bet 1-1/3-3/9-9 (thinking of covering the zero ot the last step) 3 sessions for 2 units. Starting with a bankroll of 120 units.

And in the meanwhile CODE 4 originally played has never met a lost in my 120 games records. I think I'm playing just AS JohnLegend said - HIT and RUN (making 2-3-4 hours brakes between sessions) 8 games,+ or - I'm out, in those 8 games usually there is a match in the first so i can place a bet.

Thanks for the great method!! I just HOPE when i lose sooner or later, i can manage to recover for a couple  of days , not being in  a circle of losses when my BR will be eaten.. after all I'm a poor student LoL

Hi unre4lbg,
That seems very sensible way to play.
Great result, btw!
Thanks for posting your results and good luck.

A.

[subby]

Hi Guys

I'm new to this but lost on one thing (due to my lack of experience in gambling!) - the bet progressions. Maybe i am misunderstanding.

Today i tried Code 4 - in a real Casino, with live wheels. I picked a random game and entered, and counted back about 10 numbers and recorded them. I then waited for the next 2 numbers to come in without betting anything so i had my 12, and my 3 sequences.

I then bet against my first sequence, so say it was 1A3C, i put £5 (1 unit - 5?) on dozens 2 and 3. That did not come in so i then bet columns B and C with 15 (1-1, 3-3, 9-9?) which came in, making me 5.

I would then switch to another table and do the same, sometimes getting through to the 3rd bet before winning back my 5.

Sound right? Sorry for my noobness 

For straight up code 4 (normal code 4) you go back 12 spins


13 is in the 2 dozen
7 is in the a column etc...
1
b
3
c
3
a
1
a
1
c

this set of dozens and columns gives you the matrix like so...

2* a** 1*** b****
3c3a
1a1c

For normal code 4 you then bet a sequence of

1-1 on dozens one and three (you're playing against 2*) - If it wins then you're +1 if not go to
3-3 on cols b and c (You're playing against a**)- If it wins then you're +1 if not go to
9-9 on dozens two and three (You're playing against 1***)- If it wins then you're +1 if not go to
27-27 (I personally at this point play 29-29 with 2 units on zero) on cols a and c (You're playing against b***)- If it wins then you're +1 if not stop as your game is over with -81 units

You can of course play just the 3 step progression to lose 26 units but I play the 4th betting step 29-29 and 2 on zero.

[intrinseco]

Hi everybody, At first I would like to say that I didn't code "code 4" with the intention to be negative or denigrate any user or method. I just did it to give my  contribute to the forum showing the possible behavior of the system in a long term. I'm not against some users or any ideas. After my post I read some comments talking about the  way I played it every 37 spins was not a proper random. So to be fair I decided to run again the same 1 million spins but instead play a game very 37 spins, I'm playing a game every x spins,

where x =
171,42,85,41,195,134,88,82,44,115,159,137,141,37,177,148,141,22,119,56,190,85,58,35,193,183,95,18,156,93,127,105,103,26,59,109,174,66,65,95 ,30  ,174   ,24   ,118 ,36  ,109  ,197   ,48    ,167    ,76     ,84     ,183    ,183    ,135    ,60     ,149    ,182    ,175    ,112    ,38      ,148     ,185     ,27      ,196     ,143     ,39       ,109      ,158      ,50       ,45       ,66       ,159      ,115      ,45       ,52       ,156      ,29       ,28


(numbers downloaded from :.random.org)

As we can see in the chart the result in the long term are pretty much the same but i noticed a difference, there are more positives waves, so I did a third run, the third chart shows us a zoom of the first 20.000 spins, 190 games without a loss, and 192 games with 1 loss. This situations happens very often playing this way and it is the reason because different users are having different results. Some of them are catching the positive wave from the begining and others from a middle point

With this I'm not pretending to say that code 4 doesn't work at all, I just thing we need more improvements and some of them could be done studing my charts and following others  opinions.

PS: To john leggend: If you send me exactly the way you play your hit and run, I can exactly put it in the code, I mean, for example:
day 1: first game 10:00
           second game  13:45
etc etc
day 2: first game: 11:36
etc etc

I can code 30 days with different hours per every day.

And also if some one has a txt file with real millions spins, that will be nice to see if there is some difference

Thanks

[subby]

I enjoy reading your stats fella Keep up the good work

[atlantis]

Remember the CODE 4 SLIDE??

This is one of the better progressions for double dozen betting, thanks to GLC and others.
Double Dozen Progression
Progression Level
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Bet level 1 ($1.00) on each Dozen for 5 Spins
If at the end each 5 spins we have a positive balance then spin another 5 times at level 1 ($1.00).
For example, if we won all 5 times we would have a positive balance of $5, if we won 4 times we would have a positive balance of $2 therefore we would spin another 5 times at level 1 ($1.00).
If at end of 5 spins we have a negative balance then increase bets to next progression level 2 ($2.00) for next 5 spins.

For example, if we won 3 times out of 5, we would have a negative balance of -$1.
Bet level 2 ($2.00) on each Dozen for 5 spins.
If during these 5 spins we have eliminated the negative balance of -$1 then revert back to next lower level, ie level 1.
If we still have a negative balance at the end of level 2, then go to level 3.
For example, we have a -$1 loss from level 1.
The first spin at level 2 ($2.00) on each dozen is won, we win $2.00 which when added to the -$1 loss from the previous level a +$1 which has eliminated the negative balance and we now revert back 1 level.

Applied to the CODE 4 SLIDE

To get faster bets here is example game played in code 4 alternate fashion playing AGAINST the formation of left and right diagonal symmetrical quads:

2 a 3 a
a 2 a 2
2 c 1 c - first 12 results [From Now On Only Bet Column 1 and Column 4 when applicable)
b 2 a 2 - w+1 @ col1 (not a-a-c-c) ; w+1 @ col4 (not 2-2-1-1)
3 b 3 a - w+1 @ col1 (not 2-1-2-1) ; w+1 @ col4 (not a-c-a-c)
a 2 c 3 - no bet @ col1 ; L-2 @ col4 (not 2-2-3-3)  5 bets @ 1-1 the Balance =+2. Stay at 1-1
3 c 2 b - L-2 @ col1 (not 2-3-2-3) ; w+1 @ col4 (not b-b-c-c)
c 1 c 2 - w+1 @ col1 (not a-c-c-a) ; w+1 @ col4 (not 3-2-2-3)
3 b 3 a - no bet @ col1 ; L-2 @ col4 (not a-c-c-a)  5 bets @ 1-1 the Balance = +1.  Up to 2-2
a 1 b 2 - w+2 @ col1 (not b-c-b-c) ; +3. Down to 1-1 for next 5; w+1 @ col4 (not 3-1-3-1)
1 b 1 a - no bet @ col1 ; w+1 @ col4 (not c-b-b-c)


Balance so far = +5  Highest bet 2-2 (once)

A.

[Deejay]

Played tonight

Played Games: 21
Won Games: 21
Lost Games: 0


Looking good!

[justanothergambler]

the waiting x amount of spins then bet is a non sense fo me. the number which was just drawn doesnt know it was drawn. they are all equiprobable.
better to play CONTINUOUSLY,  and if you want to add some randomness to the static play (line after line) just play after a random line on your list of previous lines.

and moreover, you should play the whole line not only the first bit.
and I already wrote weeks ago to play FOR not against because of many reasons:
1- mathematicaly the law of the third is applied underneath.
2- folllowing the trend
3- less risky bet! which mean a very flexible progression when betting one DZ or 1 CL at time.

if some of you has studied information and coding therory, here is an idea :
in that theroy a bit of information is either 1 or 0 , so for the DZ and COL it will be coded in 3 bits  0 1 and 2 as they are 3 possibilities dz 1 dz2 dz3 , idem for columns.
the original code 4 line was written like this : 2A1B
in coding theory we add some redundancy to the information bits to minimise the Pe( Probability of Error) means instead sending the bits 01 we send 00 11  or 01 01 the same bits twice or n times.
how we apply this to code 4 reverse ? we add the redundancy , we can CODE our code 4   like this :
Original code4  line 2A1B we code it to : 2A2A 1B1B or 2 AA 1 BB
lets take the new code : 2 AA 1 BB , we dnt have bet for dozens 2 and 1 , we can consider them  as delimiters, so we bet FOR AA ofter the 2 and then skip the 1 and bet FOR BB , I ve done some statistics of previous results and statisticaly we get from 1 to 3 bits repeat.
you can bet using the progression posted by a member above.
LEVEL 1 : 1 1  1 1
4 spins played if positif stay with level 1 if negatif then level 2
LEVEL 2 : 2 2  2 2
if positif then back to level 1, if negatif bet last level 3 : 3 3 3 3
and reset nomatter what the result of you balance negatif or postif. RESET to LEVEL 1, dnt worry they would be more winning streaks ahead.

[Johnlegend]

Hi everybody, At first I would like to say that I didn't code "code 4" with the intention to be negative or denigrate any user or method. I just did it to give my  contribute to the forum showing the possible behavior of the system in a long term. I'm not against some users or any ideas. After my post I read some comments talking about the  way I played it every 37 spins was not a proper random. So to be fair I decided to run again the same 1 million spins but instead play a game very 37 spins, I'm playing a game every x spins,

where x =
171,42,85,41,195,134,88,82,44,115,159,137,141,37,177,148,141,22,119,56,190,85,58,35,193,183,95,18,156,93,127,105,103,26,59,109,174,66,65,95 ,30  ,174   ,24   ,118 ,36  ,109  ,197   ,48    ,167    ,76     ,84     ,183    ,183    ,135    ,60     ,149    ,182    ,175    ,112    ,38      ,148     ,185     ,27      ,196     ,143     ,39       ,109      ,158      ,50       ,45       ,66       ,159      ,115      ,45       ,52       ,156      ,29       ,28


(numbers downloaded from :.random.org)

As we can see in the chart the result in the long term are pretty much the same but i noticed a difference, there are more positives waves, so I did a third run, the third chart shows us a zoom of the first 20.000 spins, 190 games without a loss, and 192 games with 1 loss. This situations happens very often playing this way and it is the reason because different users are having different results. Some of them are catching the positive wave from the begining and others from a middle point

With this I'm not pretending to say that code 4 doesn't work at all, I just thing we need more improvements and some of them could be done studing my charts and following others  opinions.

PS: To john leggend: If you send me exactly the way you play your hit and run, I can exactly put it in the code, I mean, for example:
day 1: first game 10:00
           second game  13:45
etc etc
day 2: first game: 11:36
etc etc

I can code 30 days with different hours per every day.

And also if some one has a txt file with real millions spins, that will be nice to see if there is some difference

Thanks

Hello Intrensico, the time I play Hit and run has nothing to do with its success. I have tried to get across its value but some will never get it. So you know when its time to stop pushing. HIT AND RUN works for one simple reason YOU ARE BREAKING RANDOMS CYCLE.
Its incredible that all the mathheads can't wait to get a method loaded into a useless simulator to see if it survives. But not one of them can put the REAL work in to see how it works in the only arena it needs to work real LIVE SPINS.

I have tried to break it down into laymans terms. Its simple and if you think about it makes perfect sense. But remember many don't deal in that World. I will try one more time for your benefit. EXAMPLE You know say a method like CODE 4 has paper odds of 80/1 So you must risk 80 units to play a game PROPERLY. To win 1 unit in return. Hmm not too attractiive a proposition to the average Joe. Or even the seasonned player.

Because over the years its got into a players brain that you can't beat this game to start with. So the thought of risking 80 units to win one is a definate no, no. RIGHT? Well Yes played in the normal way it would be. I will give you some simple statistics that to anyone with an open mind and reasonable intelligence should indicate that HIT AND RUN is a superior application.

I have played over 7,500 games of CODE 4 to date. Now if ever there was an indicator of HIT AND RUNS value this should be it. I play two games a session but always record four in total. Here is the breakdown of wins and losses over those four games or 15,000 (7,500 PLAYED, 7,500 VIRTUAL.

TOTAL Losses for the first game of each session over a possible 15,000=6
TOTAL Losses for the first 2 games of each session over a possible 15,000=15
TOTAL Losses for the first 3 games of each session over a possible 15,000=34
TOTAL Losses for the complete 4 games a session from a possible 15,000=42

I shouldnt have to say another thing And this is only four consecutive games imagine the fool playing 20 in a row. Those results tell anyone with any sense. Hit and Run is the superior way to play roulette. If I had only played a single game over a span of 3,250 games I would have only lost 6 progressions to date. Or 480 units lost as opposed to 3,250 won for a net profit of 2,770 units profit. And an 80 unit risk.

Its SIMPLE or so it should be THE LONGER YOU EXPOSE YOURSELF TO RANDOMS EBB AND FLOW, THE MORE YOU SHALL LOSE. Theres no ifs, buts or maybes about it. That is absolute fact. And the fact that is so hard for most to take onboard simply baffles me. And its without question the reason the vast majority of people on this and everyother forum in the land are still debating whether the games for the taking or not longterm. It certainly is, but NOT THE WAY THEY PLAY IT.

[dino246]

Here Here J L, total agreement with the hit and run way of playing.
I played this way for the first time in 1996 long before i joined any of the forums.
One eye on the carpet and one eye on the door.
Any profits a profit in my book.
I have NEVER played the inside of the table ONLY the ZERO.
90% of my play is D + C.
Just a few thoughts !!!!

[Johnlegend]

Here Here J L, total agreement with the hit and run way of playing.
I played this way for the first time in 1996 long before i joined any of the forums.
One eye on the carpet and one eye on the door.
Any profits a profit in my book.
I have NEVER played the inside of the table ONLY the ZERO.
90% of my play is D + C.
Just a few thoughts !!!!

Yes Dino but try convincing the other 99.9 % of that. They foolishly think if they stay at the table hours on end theres no difference to the smart player collecting small but consistent pockets of profit. In a way HIT and RUN must never catch on otherwise theyd have to change the rules or ban the game. And Id have to learn Blackjack lol.

[Johnlegend]

TOTAL Losses for the first game of each session over a possible 15,000=6
TOTAL Losses for the first 2 games of each session over a possible 15,000=15
JOHN PLAY THE ABOVE

OTHER PEOPLE PLAYED THESE
TOTAL Losses for the first 3 games of each session over a possible 15,000=34
TOTAL Losses for the complete 4 games a session from a possible 15,000=42

John makes the perfect argument against "Hit and Run"  I have posed this same scenario for five years.  No one to date has debunked it.

OK, John plays his games and wins tons.

Other people playing Reverse Code 4 sit down right behind him and play.  THEY ARE DOOMED TO LOSE!

Can no one but me see that?

Why would a person who sits down right after a winner--any winner--have more or less chance to win?

I can just hear the wheel:  "Well, that John guy beat me, but I'll tear this guy a new one!"

You can outrun the "run from hell" for a while, but sooner or later they will gang up on you and you will see the time it takes to get back even is just not worth it--so you find another "can't fail" system and start over.

But if it works for you, go for it!

Sam

No Sam other people just keep playing and playing and playing. that's WHEN YOU can't AVOID THE RUN FROM HELL. Even playing 1 game and stopping you will lose Sam. Oh yes you will. But you will lose a lot LESS. that's what most cannot take onboard. I used to play like most people. And I lost like most people. Until I learnt the only way to really get ahead that's all I did LOSE. But if the majority of people cannot see that sitting their for hours on end they are far more likely to run into a losing game. Than the guy/girl who plays one or two games then shuts it down.

Lifetime losers they shall be.

[ausguy]

Hi 55 pages of posters - I have come up with an idea originating from all the discussions & play of code 4 by many other posters.
In about 10 days I will be visiting my local city casino The Star in Sydney Australia. It will involve 2 phases of play. The 1st will be virtual betting to test the viability of the play. If proven worthwhile then live betting will go ahead fairly soon afterwards.

It will involve a hit & run strategy of 1 session at a table & leave that table on a win or a stop play loss after L3. As per the mantra of Mr. Johnny Legend. From the trigger numbers on the 1st table the 2nd table code numbers will be played. Then table 2 triggers table 3 and so on.

The Star table play area has at least 8 live dealer roulette tables. My idea is to not have the 12 spin seperation zones (apart from the 1st spin of the session,with these  spins taken off the marquee) to increase the plays per hour, roughly estimated at a theoretical 15 ?

The 8 tables will be I.D.'d  @ 1 - 8. From basic free online RNG I will run a series of 8 random numbers these random numbers will decide which table to use. If the same table number presents again then that is crossed off until a valid table presents.

My tests will show the likelyhood of positive results from the randomness associated with many different wheels ? It would not be possible to test this correctly unless you had a record of the spin & the time of each drop at each table. This is because spin frequencies ebb & flow at various tables due to the ever changing flow of players.

I've provisionally labelled my idea as code 3. The reason being that I only bet to level 3 due to the table limits, so only 3 vertical lines are relevant & the 4th position is not used.
In assessing code 4 with it, I originally had 4 rows of 3 instead of 3 rows of 4. This still maintained the 12 spin numbers seperation Zone as per the original.

It then evolved to the thinking of after the 1st table spin why not just use the last bet 3 spin group as triggers for the next chosen table to increase the bet frequencies ?
I also acknowledge that having only 3 bet column rows only allows either 2 dozens & 1 column or 2 columns & 1 dozen as bet choices. Testing will show if either is better then the other or an alternating mode improves the results?

Should my tests prove successful I would look to open a new thread under a code 3 banner? At this stage it's early days before we get to that point.

I now have the bankroll for at least 3 progression banks for code 3 betting, depending on my starting minimum. I'm leaning towards a higher starting minimum than the casino minimum to improve the profit/bet/time ratio.
This new bankroll is courtesy of a good win earlier in the week at Smart Live casino. See my posts on thread " is my online casino cheating." ? This shows that sometimes the planets align for a brief period & "hay was made while the sun shined."

In the meantime I'm finalising my bet sheet format and looking forward to some testing in coming days.          Cheers.

[ausguy]

2cs - Thanks mate, I'll give it a good test with all results recorded, so all info. will be available.

Re - The table chips - Roulette has both custom coloured chips used for each live dealer table only and general cash play anywhere in casino chips. The majority of the tables are $5 min. inside bet tables with a lesser amount of $10 min. inside bet tables. The $5 min. inside bets go to a max. of $100. The even money bets range from $25 - $1,000. The 2 : 1 bet range is $10 - $500.

The $10 table is pretty much double the limits of the $5 table.

The bulk of play is on the $5 tables. Smart players use the custom colour $5 chips. Drone players often stuff things up with lots of $5 cash chip bets all over the table layout. Then there's often disputes as to whose bet is the winner & the video referee then has to scan the video playback? With cash chips at roulette there are also $10, $25, $100 , $500 & 1,000 units.These are generally not a problem as only a few people bet with them.
Only baccarat has the $5,000 chips for their $50,000 & $75,000 limit games. How about winning $50k on roulette and then putting it on an all up bet on banker ? Only in the movies me thinks?

The busier the time period the worse it gets with more drone players. Night time is always busy esp.Fri. & Sat. Noisey too.  I avoid these times as the more people at the tables the slower & less enjoyable betting is.  I'm retired now so I can go anytime I wish. Generally I leave home mid morning & get to the "DEN OF SIN " around mid- day. I'm usually out of the joint by 7pm, give or take.
I haven't been so much this year but if success smiles upon me that will certainly change.

I have confidence and experience at the tables. I also prepare myself well with premade bet cards & pens that work properly etc. All I need is to find a method that keeps on keeping on keeping on.
I think I'll have that answer in about 1 - 1/2 weeks ?

[ausguy]

2CS - A DRONE has its origins from the bee insect world. The DRONE bee is the male bee that doesn't work for the colony. It just lays about waiting for the mating time of a queen bee. Once this is done the union causes the DRONES death (loss of family jewels etc. I believe?)

DRONE also refers to the sustained musical notes put out by bagpipes, Indian sitars & reverb pedals on electric guitars.

This has then evolved (via old England ) to mean someone of below average functioning ability.
A boring lay about couch potato. The USA term of CHUMP could also fit in there too.

So enter the casino DRONES, serial losers clogging up the tables with a sea of $5 cash chips and so keeping the video checks busy. The casinos love these DRONES as their betting MO helps boost the casinos bottom line. To keep the DRONES repeat business they don't ruffle their feathers by insisting they use the $5 custom colour table chips. Using the video checker is a minor inconvenience for them.
The drones create problems on every area of the layout, 17B maybe sometimes?

17B is 007s number. Remember in Casino Royale were 007 parlayed 3 x 17B back to back winners to win $45million or simliar? Only in the movies can you bet "slightly" above the table limits and have prespin number recognition perception. Are the odds of that tri 17B sequence 50,000 + : 1 ?
What amused me in that movie was 007s boss reminding Bond he had to give the money in as it was deemed as belonging to the British Govt.