CODE 4

[amk]

Could we please jump over to the CODE 4 Discussions thread for discussing hit and run and who is right and who is wrong. CODE 4 is a thread I created for players willing to venture down the path of hit and run and playing alternating dozens and columns. We understand by now that some people like it and others don't. I propose that if you do not like it post your comments on the CODE 4 Discussions thread. If you like hit and run and CODE 4 please feel free to share your thoughts on this thread this way all can express themselves and not get in each others way. I don't like deleting but if you see your post deleted you know why.

Hope we can at least stay friendly, negativity in any shape or form is just that negative and will only breed more. Ofcourse I understand if some people do not like hit and run etc and that is not negative to express that view but not over and over again. I suggest we try and move on now, we all know where we stand, lets focus our efforts on developing new methods, suggesting improvements and so on, not on conversations which resemble arguments in bars.

[Johnlegend]

Could we please jump over to the CODE 4 Discussions thread for discussing hit and run and who is right and who is wrong. CODE 4 is a thread I created for players willing to venture down the path of hit and run and playing alternating dozens and columns. We understand by now that some people like it and others don't. I propose that if you do not like it post your comments on the CODE 4 Discussions thread. If you like hit and run and CODE 4 please feel free to share your thoughts on this thread this way all can express themselves and not get in each others way. I don't like deleting but if you see your post deleted you know why.

Hope we can at least stay friendly, negativity in any shape or form is just that negative and will only breed more. Ofcourse I understand if some people do not like hit and run etc and that is not negative to express that view but not over and over again. I suggest we try and move on now, we all know where we stand, lets focus our efforts on developing new methods, suggesting improvements and so on, not on conversations which resemble arguments in bars.

You are of course right AMK. I am going to simply ignore negative ignorant people. And respond to those who arent closed books.

[TwoCatSam]

AMK

I'm pretty much done.   I'll just drift off with the rest of the ignorant people and scratch where it itches.

There is one question I'd ask:  What are you and John trying to accomplish?

I find it amazing......

Samster

[Johnlegend]

AMK

I'm pretty much done.   I'll just drift off with the rest of the ignorant people and scratch where it itches.

There is one question I'd ask:  What are you and John trying to accomplish?

I find it amazing......

Samster

What I am personally trying to accomplish Sam is to show the openminded that this game is for the taking longterm. If you apply yourself to it in the right way. I know, I know I was supposed to be another maths lapdog who fawns over Supermans or whoevers bot tests and just shrug my shoulders and fess up yup. This is a fools game. Stick to scrabble.

But I already know that's far from the case if I even show a few people likewise. If they throw away everthing they THINK they know about what will be with this game. They are going to win overall. Chauncy47 is such a person. that's why I came here for people like him.

[subby]

Ok I'm in my new house, internet back on and starting code 4 again. This time I'm treating it like a business....in and out with no playing poker or side games.

I'm playing a 3 bet strategy until I can grow my BR up to a good £600+ then I'll move on to 4 bet sequence...maybe I'll see how it goes if I move to 4 or stay on 3 bets

Playing £1 units and a strategy of 3 games in the morning and 3 in the evening

CODE 4               
1-1, 3-3, 9-9 (1 zero)   is 27 units            
               
wins on first   8            
wins on second   4            
wins on third   3            
               
               
CURRENT BANKROLL    £38    (starting BR of £50)         
                     
               
TOTAL WINS   15             
               
LOSSES   1            
               
Win/Lose ratio   15   to   1   


Managed to hit a loss already but I'm not worried. Disappointed yes but I know that's a blip. I'll keep posting a weekly update in this thread if it's ok with you lot 

[Drazen]

Disappointed yes but I know that's a blip.

Blip?? Please don't call it like that.


And don't be disappointed my friend . Be happy! It is (will be) great lesson by professor Martingale. He is one of the best teachers you can find around. And you ll be smart and educated in no time. I can assure you.


Just continue to be so diligent student 


Regards


Drazen

[justanothergambler]

Ok I'm in my new house, internet back on and starting code 4 again. This time I'm treating it like a business....in and out with no playing poker or side games.

I'm playing a 3 bet strategy until I can grow my BR up to a good £600+ then I'll move on to 4 bet sequence...maybe I'll see how it goes if I move to 4 or stay on 3 bets

Playing £1 units and a strategy of 3 games in the morning and 3 in the evening

CODE 4               
1-1, 3-3, 9-9 (1 zero)   is 27 units            
               
wins on first   8            
wins on second   4            
wins on third   3            
               
               
CURRENT BANKROLL    £38    (starting BR of £50)         
                     
               
TOTAL WINS   15             
               
LOSSES   1            
               
Win/Lose ratio   15   to   1   


Managed to hit a loss already but I'm not worried. Disappointed yes but I know that's a blip. I'll keep posting a weekly update in this thread if it's ok with you lot 

that's dangerous marty mainly when playing 2 dozens to win just 1 unit.. think about it, and believe me you will hit that blackhole often!
just an advice for you, if you insist of playing CODE4, use another progression something like this :
start with 1u each , play the whole line stop when you are in +1 : 1-1 1-1 1-1 1-1
in loss increase you bet and repeat step 1. etc..

BUT, if you just look at JL stats and your stats are similar in %. you win 8 first step the usually you will win half of that in next step
which sould be around 4. look at JLs stats back to see what I mean.
therfore, its better for you to play FOR match, only one DZ or one CL, you will save yourself from that dangerous Marty.

PS: I posted back to JL the impact of the variable: STARTING POINT
here it is if you missed its definition, it may give you an idea:
-------------------------------
Lets divide your game (turbo mode as example, You can applicate it to any mode) in Time-Space domain:
-Time domain: lets T1 T2 T3... Tn represent the time of n successive spins, in between there is a DELTA T = T(p)-T(p+q) where things goes wrong it might be at any length, you just sometime happend that you entred the game ( for 1 or 2 bets) just before Tp or after DELTA+ Tp. but sooner or later you would catch it.
-Space domain: this another point which nobody here mentioned : the STARTING POINT, meaning this :
the marquee number were for example :
4   
10   
27
9
12
19
28
21
5

if you entred the game at number 4 : your code 4 would be
1A3C
1A3C
which is obviously a  losing starting point.
but if your starting point was next number which is 10  your code would be totaly different :
1c1c
2a2b
which is totaly a winning STRATING POINT. 

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cheers

[subby]

Update

CODE 4               
1-1, 3-3, 9-9 (1 zero)   is 27 units           
               
wins on first   39           
wins on second   16           
wins on third   7           
               
               
CURRENT BANKROLL    £85    (starting BR of £50)         
                     
               
TOTAL WINS   62             
               
LOSSES   1           
               
Win/Lose ratio   62   to   1 

[GLC]

Update

CODE 4               
1-1, 3-3, 9-9 (1 zero)   is 27 units           
               
wins on first   39           
wins on second   16           
wins on third   7           
               
               
CURRENT BANKROLL    £85    (starting BR of £50)         
                     
               
TOTAL WINS   62             
               
LOSSES   1           
               
Win/Lose ratio   62   to   1

Seems like a reasonable amount to risk testing out Code 4.  There's a chance you may lose it all, but there's also a chance you might continue to win more and more.  We're rooting for the latter.

Thanks for keeping us up to date on your progress.

GLC

[Robeenhuut]

Its my take on hit n run philosophy playing Code 4 by John.


"  RESULTS UPDATE FOR CODE 4 FOR 16/9/2011

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 1,121

TOTAL GAMES WON 1,120

TOTAL GAMES LOST 1

STRIKERATE 1,120/1

BALANCE 2,080 UNITS PLUS

STEP 1 WINS 578

STEP 2 WINS 332

STEP 3 WINS 184

STEP 4 WINS 26---LOSSES 1

The winning goes on with this marvel. As I continue to apply the 2 by 2 play. But record 5 games per session. Total losses within that 5 game record per session remain at 12. I will continue to update CODE 4, every 100--150 games played."

Lets analyze d numbers. John plays 4 games a day (2x2) but records 10 games (2x5)  In his live play of 4 games he has only 1 L but in 6 games he records he has 11 L. So this is his argument about why hit n run works.  I would call it an almost perfect entry point deciding when 2 enter a game. I bet that f he decided 2 play just 2x1 games a day d single loss would be in d games he just recorded. I guess i would be that less fortunate dude who would play d games he skipped n caught all d losses.  And still it would be only 12 L's in around 1700 games.
Why bother with hit n run John?  Even played 2x5 games a day yr strike rate would be around 230/1?  I would love 2 have such stats.

Regards

[subby]

Robeen when did you start playing it? How long has it taken you to get to this point?


Update

CODE 4               
1-1, 3-3, 9-9 (1 zero)   is 27 units           
               
wins on first   48           
wins on second   27           
wins on third   11           
               
               
CURRENT BANKROLL    £108    (starting BR of £50)         
                     
               
TOTAL WINS   86             
               
LOSSES   1           
               
Win/Lose ratio   86   to   1

[Robeenhuut]

Robeen when did you start playing it? How long has it taken you to get to this point?


Update

CODE 4               
1-1, 3-3, 9-9 (1 zero)   is 27 units           
               
wins on first   48           
wins on second   27           
wins on third   11           
               
               
CURRENT BANKROLL    £108    (starting BR of £50)         
                     
               
TOTAL WINS   86             
               
LOSSES   1           
               
Win/Lose ratio   86   to   1

Hola Subby

I dont play any Dozens or Columns methods period or EC's. I just dont like winning ratio n risking 80u 2 win 1u f u use 1,3,9,27 progression. I just posted my opinion about hit n run philosophy playing Code 4 JL's way.  Happy that u r few units ahead after 86 games.


Regards

[subby]

Had a vets bill so withdrew my money to pay the bill :/

From my initial deposit I was up 102 units (1=£1) so all in all not too bad. Bit of effort for the money though but happy enough. I'll need to get back when I have a suitable BR again to start from teh beginning.

[lorna dune]

Shane! Shane! Come back Samste... Shane!  I don't post much because I don't have anything to add but I do like Sam and GLC and all the rest of this great cast of characters on this site, this site is a "gem" with good people giving of their knowlege, all of us trying to beat the game. I was stunned when I found the old VLS years ago I thought I was the only weirdo that sleeps roulette. The negativity is priceless entertainment, how can you yell at somebody who claims he is trying to make you money, take it or leave it who cares I'm 59 I got 20 quality years left(maybe?) If I want to waste them trying to beat roulette who the f in cares! Your wife? if she has'nt left you already because of roulette, well she should have because you will be pennyless.
"I play Goldsten progression it's fairly solid." (define fairly) I love all the systems and these great outside the box ideas  I would much rather read these threads than watch TV.  I so look forward to reading new systems and ideas I just want to say thanks for your generousity. I hope to be able to add something "system" in the future as I too am always trying to beat the game.  Thanks for listening. lorna dunne

[GLC]

Lorna Dune,  You're 59 and you love roulette.  I know you've got something to share with us.  It could be the piece that brings it all together.  Cough it up mate!

GLC