CODE 4

[GLC]

"I play Goldsten progression it's fairly solid."

Maybe you could elaborate on this Goldsten progression.  I can't say that I've heard of it before.

[Robeenhuut]

Maybe you could elaborate on this Goldsten progression.  I can't say that I've heard of it before.

I think he meant Goldstein progression on Dozens or Columns

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1522.0

[subby]

John L...are you still playing with this? I am and it's still good. Have you tweaked it any or still using the default rules for this method. I'm up 5 units tonight and withdrew my winnings....in and out sharpish

[subby]

Deposited 27 today to cover a session playing...1-1, 3-3, 9-9 (and 1 on green zero when hitting 9-9) = 27

Played paddypower and played £1 units on these tables

airball for 2 wins
sporting for 2 wins
london for 2 wins

then logged out taking my £6 profits as a withdrawal

every little helps

[Johnlegend]

Deposited 27 today to cover a session playing...1-1, 3-3, 9-9 (and 1 on green zero when hitting 9-9) = 27

Played paddypower and played £1 units on these tables

airball for 2 wins
sporting for 2 wins
london for 2 wins

then logged out taking my £6 profits as a withdrawal

every little helps

I like your solid discipline Subby. You like Chauncy47 and a few others are made of the right stuff to beat this game. Well its long overdue an update. So my next post here will bring all up to date with my play on CODE 4.

[Johnlegend]

RESULTS UPDATE FOR CODE 4 FOR 29/09/12

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 6,000

TOTAL GAMES WON 5,973

TOTAL GAMES LOST 27

STRIKERATE APPROX 221/1

BALANCE 7,456 POINTS PLUS

CODE 4 took a hammering over the summer period. And showed the worst flow of results since I started playing it. Delivering 12 losses over the last 1,500 games played. And a strikerate of 124/1 over that sample. HOWEVER. The question I always ask myself is, am I making profit or not? And the anwser is YES. Its just dropped off over the last 1,500 games. I have cut down to 5--10 games average a day and that has taken the strikerate back up. My current winning streak as a result is 246. I only drop a method IF it puts me over 500 points in the red. And CODE 4 has never lost me money. And although the strikrate seems to rise and fall its always been in profit.

[TwoCatSam]

John

You must understand why there are "doubting Thomases" among us.  When you say you have a hit rate of 221/1 red flags go up.  Why?  Because that is impossible!

I understand you mean you have won progressions of what? 1 23 9 27? and still that defies mathematics and logic.  In the real world, we cannot defy logic and math. 

So, John, my hat's off to you.  You seem to have--to borrow a phrase--"Gone where no man has gone before."

Samster

[Johnlegend]

John

You must understand why there are "doubting Thomases" among us.  When you say you have a hit rate of 221/1 red flags go up.  Why?  Because that is impossible!

I understand you mean you have won progressions of what? 1 23 9 27? and still that defies mathematics and logic.  In the real world, we cannot defy logic and math. 

So, John, my hat's off to you.  You seem to have--to borrow a phrase--"Gone where no man has gone before."

Samster

Sam its not impossible when you play Hit and Run. 221/1 is nothing. I have a method pushing 1000/0 I am now at 970 no loss. That would seem impossible. But again its happenned. Would I have attained those numbers if I sat there and played all day? Of course not. Code 4 hasnt performed that well over the last 3 months Sam. And the strikerate fell to 124/1 over that period. But its still profit anyway you look at it. And thats the name of the game. I had a real battle with BV tonight. Spent hours on there trying out different ideas including the magnificent 7. And I struggled. I had to revert back to my regular methods and pulled myself back up from a 300 point deficit to finish the night with a modest 12 point gain. My worst result in recent times. BUT, still a profit and a step in the right direction.

[Robeenhuut]

Sam its not impossible when you play Hit and Run. 221/1 is nothing. I have a method pushing 1000/0 I am now at 970 no loss. That would seem impossible. But again its happenned. Would I have attained those numbers if I sat there and played all day? Of course not. Code 4 hasn't performed that well over the last 3 months Sam. And the strikerate fell to 124/1 over that period. But its still profit anyway you look at it. And that's the name of the game. I had a real battle with BV tonight. Spent hours on there trying out different ideas including the magnificent 7. And I struggled. I had to revert back to my regular methods and pulled myself back up from a 300 point deficit to finish the night with a modest 12 point gain. My worst result in recent times. BUT, still a profit and a step in the right direction.

Maybe we should start playing any 2/3 chance method with 1,3,9,27 progression but just of course few games a day?  Seriously. Recently there is a lots of activity here regarding dozens bet but it ends usually with numerous tweaks. And i used to be a complete non-believer in hit and run approach.  And 1,3,9,27 looks very scary. But lets face it - any longer double dozen progression could get you in the hole pretty quickly.

[Turner]

Sam its not impossible when you play Hit and Run. 221/1 is nothing. I have a method pushing 1000/0 I am now at 970 no loss. That would seem impossible. But again its happenned. Would I have attained those numbers if I sat there and played all day? Of course not. Code 4 hasn't performed that well over the last 3 months Sam. And the strikerate fell to 124/1 over that period. But its still profit anyway you look at it. And that's the name of the game. I had a real battle with BV tonight. Spent hours on there trying out different ideas including the magnificent 7. And I struggled. I had to revert back to my regular methods and pulled myself back up from a 300 point deficit to finish the night with a modest 12 point gain. My worst result in recent times. BUT, still a profit and a step in the right direction.

John
If you have a system thats never lost, why are you trying magnificent7 ?

[Ralph]

If I lose using M7 it is not 350, rather 1300. A good session can profit up over 1000.
350 is a drawdown I have often. A few hits takes it back as a hit on a number can gain more than 100.

A win target of 1000 units is realistic for a days play, 3000 units is a bankroll which will do.

Some do not like methods with not strict rules, and M7 put some decissions on the player,
it is open, you read the game, stop earlier the session, start over or quit, sometimes push it
to the limit and go for bigger wins.

I find 2 doz bet more risky,  betting 1,3,9,27,81 x2 and go for 1 chip. You must here have a very, very high strike rate close to 99,99999%, and even then I think it is slow.

A bet which return less than the bet I do not think will work for me.

[Johnlegend]

If I lose using M7 it is not 350, rather 1300. A good session can profit up over 1000.
350 is a drawdown I have often. A few hits takes it back as a hit on a number can gain more than 100.

A win target of 1000 units is realistic for a days play, 3000 units is a bankroll which will do.

Some do not like methods with not strict rules, and M7 put some decissions on the player,
it is open, you read the game, stop earlier the session, start over or quit, sometimes push it
to the limit and go for bigger wins.

I find 2 doz bet more risky,  betting 1,3,9,27,81 x2 and go for 1 chip. You must here have a very, very high strike rate close to 99,99999%, and even then I think it is slow.

A bet which return less than the bet I do not think will work for me.

You are right Ralph the drawdown is heavy but the reward can be great. Im used to less nerve testing experiences in recent times. Regarding risking 80 to win 1. Doesn't seem too appealing until you get way ahead. Once you have won several progressions its a different feeling. Tomorrow I will break the 1000 straight wins barrier. HOPEFULLY!!!!

[CocaVillaLaNoche]

HI JL,
compiments for your hard work!
I noticed 1 thing. You played 4500 games where you get a win in the 1st step 2107 times. This means that if I play the same system BUT AGAINST your bet selection (say if you have to play doz 1 and 3 instead I bet doz 2) I win 2393 times (4500-2107) = +4786 units flat betting (around 1 unit per game) at really no risk and this just betting the 1st step.
What do you think? 

Yes that is interesting isnt it. Why didn't I think of that? LoL The thing is you need to play a large number of games to see that clearly. I have had sessions in a calendar day where out of the 20 games played 14 or more won on the first step sometimes 5 or 6 games in a row. It swings and roundabouts. But your reverse idea flat betting is indeed worth investigating.
Over the long haul it may be a grail a pure grail as it meets all the requirments of the purists. Hmmm food for thought. The Wolfat commeth. Great observation.

This made me laugh!

[TwoCatSam]

I sure miss ol' John.  He was a world-class bloviator.  Was going to show me how to win enough to put my grandson through college.  Well, the young man has graduated.  No help from ol' John.

[CocaVillaLaNoche]

I read the whole topic.
Played exactly the way he did.
2 by 2, 10 games a day on different wheels.
He says he has a strike rate of 1/300.
Ridiculous