The Smart Way Resurrected!!

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I know that most of you have never heard of "The Smart Way".  This was the brain child of Mattjono from 2 or 3 years ago.  Number Six and Matt worked on this for a while and it ended with them admitting that it was a real grinder but they couldn't come up with an appropriate bet method to maximize profits.


One of the characteristics of "The Smart Way" is that it produced periodic clumps of wins.  That's exactly what I'm looking for to go with my "Tour de Force" progression.


Matt and Six decided that a negative progression was too volatile and would require too large a bankroll.  Flat betting appeared to be a winner, but it was a real grind and you had to quit on a clump of wins that took you into plus range.  I think it's still a decent flat bet, but you will have to bet a decent size unit to hang with it.


They both agreed that a positive progression of some kind was the best bet.  They tried Marven's 5 step bet method and the pluscoup with modest results.


I think the beginning 31 spins of my Tour de Force system is just what they didn't have at the time. If you will remember my bet method is a 5 step parlay built on a negative progression.  We are not going to use that entire progression, although I think it would work, but we are only going to use the 1st 31 steps of the progression.

Bet Amt    # times to bet    Amt ahead if win


1                      1X             +1
1                      1X              0
1                      2X             +1
1                      2X             0
1                      3X             +3
1                      3X             +2
1                      3X            +1
1                      3X            0
1                      4X           +7
1                      4X           +6
1                      4X           +5
1                      4X           +4
1                      4X           +3
1                      4X           +2
1                      4X           +1
1                      4X            0
1                      5X           +15     From now on to recover totally, you must win 5 bets in a row
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1


That's 31 times we can bet 1 unit and win if we win 5 times in a row.
If we lose these 31 times, which will be rare, we will move to level 2 which is 2 units bet 31 times with a 5 step parlay.  If needed we can go to level 3 which is 3 units bet 31 times with a 5 step parlay.


Here's Six's explanation regarding how to play The Smart Way

Triggers for the aggressive smart way:


Playing all 6 ECs.


Track until you have two ECs hitting back to back...e.g. RR OO...etc.
The third decision makes the pattern to be attacked...e.g. RR(R) or BB(B) or HH(H) or OO(E)...whatever it might be.
If an attack wins, that pattern stays dominant for the next attack. If it loses, that pattern deactivates and changes.


e.g.....patterns active are BB(B), RR(B), HH(L), LL(H), OO(E), EE(E)


[table=,]
Out,Comb,Bet,Res,Notes
5,RLO
34,RHE
33,BHO,RR â€" Bet B,W,RR(B) stays active. Track from this spin
6,BLE,HH â€" Bet L,W,HH(L) stays active. Track from this spin
21,RHO,BB â€" Bet B,L,BB(R) is new pattern. Track from this spin
28,BHE
26,BHE,HH - Bet L,L,HH(H) is new pattern. Track from this spin         
12,RLE,BB - Bet R,W,BB(R) stays active. Track from this spin
,,EE - Bet E,W,EE(E) stays active. Track from this spin



mjono, this is your method, yes? Only there's no waiting for the sequence to break after a win or lose?
To me it makes more sense to attack aggressively and not wait for the breaks as the logic, if there is any, is to jump on the dominant series. The ECs do tend to clump together and chop in singles rarely, so waiting for breaks means you're missing a lot of opportunities and not exploiting the dominant series to full effect. I'm still in two minds about this, although I've now tested 250 spins and around 200 bets and I'm about +40 flat betting.


I'm trying to test this way wholesale at the moment against 500 Spielbank numbers, but it's taking some time. I've only done 100 so far. Here is the summary:


100 Spins
81 Bets
44 Won
37 Lost
54% Hit Rate


It's +11 flat betting but...I also applied Marven's five leveller and got +32! That's a nice return. It was -10/11 at one point, but a good run towards the end (13 wins in 15) netted 42 units to give the 32 profit. I think that was lucky, which is why I'm still not convinced. It's a nice simple method and I think someone should code it for RX.


6
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That's it.  We play all three even chances at the same time.  As 6 said, we are tracking for example: RR( ) whatever spins next is what we bet for the next time we have RR.  So if we have RR(B)  the next time we have RR we bet for B.  We do this on all 6 even chance bets. 


That's it.  Questions please.


George

[catalyst]

That's it.  We play all three even chances at the same time.  As 6 said, we are tracking for example: RR( ) whatever spins next is what we bet for the next time we have RR.  So if we have RR(B)  the next time we have RR we bet for B.  We do this on all 6 even chance bets. 


That's it.  Questions please.
George

hi George
so, if we have RR(B) we continue betting on B until we encounter R. for example, we have RR(B), we start betting B continously as we got a streak of B.


RR(B)TRIGGER
RRBBBBBBR-------BB(R) TRIGGER

BBRRRRRB-------RR(B) TRIGGER
RRBR ----DO WE WAIT FOR THE TRIGGER?
WE APPLY THREE SEPARATE PROGRESSION ON THREE ECs-- do we go for 5 parlay each time we have trigger?

do you have any prior knowledge of bankroll requirement and largest drawdown from Mattogono and number six?

thanks
catalyst

[GLC]

Bet Amt    # times to bet    Amt ahead if win


1                      1X             +1
1                      1X              0
1                      2X             +1
1                      2X             0
1                      3X             +3
1                      3X             +2
1                      3X            +1
1                      3X            0
1                      4X           +7
1                      4X           +6
1                      4X           +5
1                      4X           +4
1                      4X           +3
1                      4X           +2
1                      4X           +1
1                      4X            0
1                      5X           +15     
1                      5X           +14
1                      5X           +13
1                      5X           +12
1                      5X           +11
1                      5X           +10
1                      5X           +9
1                      5X           +8
1                      5X           +7
1                      5X           +6
1                      5X           +5
1                      5X           +4
1                      5X           +3
1                      5X           +2
1                      5X           +1
1                      5X             0

That's 312 times we can bet 1 unit and win if we win 5 times in a row.
If we lose these 32 times, which will be rare, we will move to level 2 which is 2 units bet 32 times with a 5 step parlay.  If needed we can go to level 3 which is 3 units bet 32 times with a 5 step parlay.


That's 192 units if we lose all three progressions.  That would be around 300 spins to lose the full progression due to the wins which don't result in lost bets.


Here's an example:


r
b
b
r  this is my first set  bb(r).  Next time I get bb I will bet for r
r
r  this is my second set rr(r).  Next time I get rr I will bet for r
r
r  this is my next set of rr.  I bet 1 unit that the next spin is r
b  lost -1.  Now the next time I get rr I will bet for b
b  I now bet my 2nd 1 unit for r because I'm tracking bbr
r  that's a win.  I'm now even on my bank so reset to 1st 1 in progression
r  that's my trigger.  I looking for rrb so I bet for b next spin. 1 unit.
b  that's a win, +1.  I continue to look for b after the next rr
etc...


Play all three e.c.'s simultaneously.


The way to track this is to put all six doubles at the top of your page like this:


RR    BB    OO    EE    HH    LL


Put the one you're betting for under each in column formation.  When there's a change, just cross off the old and write in the new like this:


RR    BB    OO    EE    HH    LL
R      R      E       E      L       L
B              O       O             H
R                       E      H       


This means we're looking for RR(R), BB(R), OO(O), EE(E), HH(H); LL(H)

George

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hi George
so, if we have RR(B) we continue betting on B until we encounter R. for example, we have RR(B), we start betting B continously as we got a streak of B.


RR(B)TRIGGER
RRBBBBBBR-------BB(R) TRIGGER

BBRRRRRB-------RR(B) TRIGGER
RRBR ----DO WE WAIT FOR THE TRIGGER?
WE APPLY THREE SEPARATE PROGRESSION ON THREE ECs-- do we go for 5 parlay each time we have trigger?

do you have any prior knowledge of bankroll requirement and largest drawdown from Mattogono and number six?

thanks
catalyst

No Catalyst.  We only play for 1 bet each trigger.  I posted another post while you were posting this one.  It will answer your questions maybe.


Here's the link to the original topic.  You can get all your questions answered there.
link:://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/the-smart-way-e-c-system/


As far as the progression goes, In the beginning we don't have to win 5 parlays to be in profit.  As we move down the progression, we have to win more parlays to finally recover.


It may be that a 4 step parlay progression or a 3 step parlay progression will be better than a 5 step.  Especially since we are only using the 1's as our base bet.  If we lose on them, we double our bet to 2's etc...


This will still take some tweaking.


Be sure and follow the link matt provides to the e.c. testing area, it has a lot of good meat in it too.


George

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I want to add that if we have to go to 2 unit bets and 3 unit bets, one win isn't enough to pull us back to plus.  It will take multiple wins unless it's very early in the progressions.

As you will see if you read the original posts, there were decent profits made on this bet selection method flat betting.

I'm considering testing the progression used in the topic "and you thought you knew about Oscar". 

Also, the "clean up before move up" may be an excellent method for this.