JohnLegend's systems: Do they work as claimed?

[Bayes]

I think you need time out making silly polls

Actually, this silly poll was my idea. 

..wheres alibabha gone?

Banned.

[Chrisbis]

thanks Bayes...........was just about to say something similar, though without the 'Silly' attribution.
The Poll would be interesting, IF everyone who HAS tried the Matrix, (in what ever format, whether singularly, or in combination, (as say as part of the MST tracker device)), took part in the Poll.


@6th............as usual you make at lot of 'sense'.

though for my '6th pennith' worth, I actually think two or three systems/routines is the way forward.

Question now is what two, and as someone has just asked me- When, Which and Where?
Also, '6th'........
[reveal]I am now akin 2 U- I have two user names, though in my case not of my own doing![/reveal]

[Proofreaders2000]

The losses tend to come in clumps (several losses in a row) and one may find a considerably larger bank is required than suggested. (Even with hit and run tactics).

[Amazin]

so majority thinks that JL's systems are nothing special? So what systems are better? Maybe its because im new but his systems are the best things i have ever read on a roulette forum. Where is he now? Haven't seen his post in a while

[StackBundles]

forget them all learn something that has to happen like movements! kimo li = way forward you can earn so much ****** MONEY!


and if u cant be bothered to learn kimos way then just create a system off the top of your head play it to gain a few units and then create another system they all seem to win the first few times u play

[ANONYMOUS]

forget them all learn something that has to happen like movements! kimo li = way forward you can earn so much ****** MONEY!


and if You can't be bothered to learn kimos way then just create a system off the top of your head play it to gain a few units and then create another system they all seem to win the first few times u play

O RLY??

You want to make money off roulette... become a dealer

[Proofreaders2000]

He had a system that was quite good...anyone remember The Zone Dozens System?

[iggiv]

my couple of cents. I think JL has no reasons to lie about winning with his methods. But not everybody is successful with them. Why? i think JL very well "feels the rhythm" of his systems. It is extremely important not "overabuse" any method. Winning method may become real loser easily.

So analysis must be made of the way u play and win or lose. How many spins u can play, what profit u can get, how many spins to skip after (could be thousands of spins to skip! which means u may play the same wheel once say in 5 or 10 days) and so on.

all this must be done with RX of course, not with your money. Until u r sure u r on a right track

[iggiv]

He had a system that was quite good...anyone remember The Zone Dozens System?

he got more than one good system

[GLC]

I was thinking that if JL's systems work, then we could use his basic idea and play on the fly.


Here's what I mean.


1 3 2 1 3 3
2 1 1 3 2 3
1 2 2 2 3 1
2 2 1 2 1 1
3 3 2 2 3 3
1 2 1 3 2 2
1 2 X 1 1 1
2 3 2 1 3 1
1 1 3 1 2 1
2 2 1 3 3 X

As you can see, the 3 red 1's are forming a pattern and the red X is where we would bet against that pattern continuing.


The blue X is where we bet against the 2 pattern continuing.


I'm sure there are other patterns you can find to bet against besides the ones I pointed out.


You could continue to bet against these patterns for up to 3 or 4 chances.


You can create any size matrix you want.


You could even create a variety of matrices using the same spins such as a 3 wide, 5 wide and 7 wide matrices looking for patterns in each matrix and I think you would have many more bets than if you track for predetermined patterns to develop. 


Many of us who have tested some of the systems can attest that often you must track forever before getting to place a bet.  "The Slide" is a case in point.

[Robeenhuut]

my couple of cents. I think JL has no reasons to lie about winning with his methods. But not everybody is successful with them. Why? i think JL very well "feels the rhythm" of his systems. It is extremely important not "overabuse" any method. Winning method may become real loser easily.

So analysis must be made of the way u play and win or lose. How many spins You can play, what profit You can get, how many spins to skip after (could be thousands of spins to skip! which means u may play the same wheel once say in 5 or 10 days) and so on.

all this must be done with RX of course, not with your money. Until u r sure u r on a right track

Hello

I disagree slightly here. I dont think you can improve your odds by waiting certain number of spins or play it hit and run. The loses will just simply catch up with you sooner or later.  Testing it manually i just could not verify strike rate reported by some people.  400/1 in Code 4 just seems impossible to me. I might be biased because i lost first game ever played of Code 4. But i might have got 400 wins after that I just did not take that chance.
Funny thing is that if you come up with some decent system you usually get few easy wins at the beginning and loses will come later. But it maybe my bad luck.
I just would not feel comfortable playing them.

Regards

[Steve]

The people who regularly profit from roulette mostly dont visit forums because there is only ever:

1. advantage play methods that are old and unsuitable for modern casinos
2. gamblers fallacy, ie RBRB etc.

And if they bother to take the time to explain to people the truth about things, people dont listen. And they may go their whole lives not learning a method that wins consistently. This might sound strange coming from someone that owns multiple forums, but its the truth. Will this change the course of discussions? Not likely. Never has for most people. Not until they understand what does and doesnt work and WHY. And that will never happen for most people because they're looking for something that is easy.

[Robeenhuut]

The people who regularly profit from roulette mostly don't visit forums because there is only ever:

1. advantage play methods that are old and unsuitable for modern casinos
2. gamblers fallacy, ie RBRB etc.

And if they bother to take the time to explain to people the truth about things, people don't listen. And they may go their whole lives not learning a method that wins consistently. This might sound strange coming from someone that owns multiple forums, but its the truth. Will this change the course of discussions? Not likely. Never has for most people. Not until they understand what does and doesn't work and WHY. And that will never happen for most people because they're looking for something that is easy.

You are never old enough to learn something stupid 

[ego]

What would we do if there did not exist system players, i love them and keep up the good work.
Thanks to you all i am free to do what i do best.

[GLC]

In the back of my mind there is this nagging suspicion that the wheel doesn't know what kind of gymnastics we have gone through to decide how much or what number to bet on.  It doesn't know if we're betting against a rare formation or betting for a common one.  It's all random.  The patterns are random.  No matter how rare they are, they will come up some time, randomly. 

I keep hoping we can find a method of play that will stay ahead of the losses.  Unfortunately, we cannot be sure because random can favor our system while testing and then throw a bad series of spins that can last way longer than we have money when we start playing for real.

Maybe we are just wasting our time here.