So where should we fokus on...?

[Steve]

If that is your method of prediction, first consider HAVE YOU INCREASED ACCURACY OF PREDICTIONS.

Most people dont understand WHY this is so important. Most people dont ever achieve consistent profits with roulette.

[Elvis]

HAVE YOU INCREASED ACCURACY OF PREDICTIONS...

First, note, and then convince yourselves of, a few basic classical physics reasons against acheiving the above quote in the simple physical realities of either practicality, or practicability.

Then, "do the impossible"... beat, nay better your understanding of those complex mathematical realities.

[Steve]

Increasing accuracy of predictions and beating roulette is not difficult. It just that the approach of most people make it impossible. But most people dont understand WHY.

Honestly it took me YEARS to figure it out, when it really should have been a matter of minutes. Now i look back and see I wasted years.

[warrior]

Yes but without increasing accuracy of predictions, time management only determines over what time period we lose.

Steve what you did with computers is greatness,but not all of us can afford one.

[xxlakis]

Steve what you did with computers is greatness,but not all of us can afford one.

As Steve states his equipment is provided only to "serious" players so roulette computers at least for most of us in this forum are out of the equation.After all i am absolutely convinced that a very big number of users is more excited with the idea to beat the f***g game than actually "make money".

[Skakus]

Bet more when you’re winning and less when you’re losing.

How do you know when you’re going to win and when you’re going to lose? - You don’t.

Next best thing could be to up the stake after a win and down the stake after a loss.

If you’re using a big progression then try making 3 progressions ranging over very long with small profits to very short with large profits, and one in the middle with decent length & decent profit.  In the event of a loss, all 3 progressions should lose the same amount.

After a win on the current progression move to the shorter of the other two progressions for the next bet sequence (bigger profits when things are good), and after any loss on one progression move to the longer of the other two progressions for the next bet sequence (longer bet duration when things are going bad).

This basically translates to betting 3.2.3.2.3.2.3.2, etc when you're on a winning streak, and betting 1.2.1.2.1.2.1.2, etc when you're on a losing streak.

It's not much, but if your bet selection is strong and hovering around the house edge then this type of staking could just put you in front of the game.

[Steve]

Steve what you did with computers is greatness,but not all of us can afford one.

There are cheaper models and you can pay partly with winnings. Computers are just one of the methods that increase accuracy of predictions. There are many others. For those interested in VB, try below (free vb explanation):

link:://:.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/vb13nov10.wma

This is a part of the genuinewinner.com roulette system. The technique taught to techniques is my way of saying thanks to people who attend my public events. It is only a very basic method in this recording, as the advanced methods are reserved strictly for my players - including methods that deal with varying rotor speeds, and the wheel being only partially visible (rather than top view). In addition to the documentation at :.genuinewinner.com/gw.zip this audio file will give you a better idea of the kind of methods I teach.

I don't mean to "plug" my products, but I believe in them as the best methods overall to increase accuracy of predictions.

People need to focus on the wheel and ball, not the table.

[RouletteExplorer]

Steve I already know how Advantage Play is working.I just don't care for a way like it because you can t play on any wheel,you have to record
a massive number of spins and you also need a huge bankroll to face the bad fluxuations. So this kind of game isn t for me. I don't have the patience or the money to use in order to cover this play.

Proofreaders the TIME management has nothing to do with winning. Steve is correct when he said " without increasing accuracy of predictions, time managementonly determines over what time period we lose."
If a system is a winner it is able to win on the long run...if not then it s not a winner.

Frost the amount of the money that we can win with any system depends on what  the chip value is.
And if a system is a winner , why stop on making only X amount of chips...the more we play the more we should win. Otherwise its NOT a winner.

Skakus the "Bet more when you’re winning and less when you’re losing." is an idea that never worked and is never gonna work.

So what have we heard once again??? THE SAME OLD RECYCLED IDEAS THAT ARE 100% PROVEN LOSERS !
What I am trying to show-explain is that if we do not find new approaches , then we will always be on a dead end and we will be standing infront of the Pc with the Roulette extreme open ready for testing...but we will not know what to test !!!!
This is my story right now. I do not know how to come to a new approach for start making a system from it.
And I am not that silly to start testing the OLD MILLLION TIMES RECYCLED IDEAS.

[superman]

Ok fella, we need new thinking, correct, but what are we thinking against, live table OR RNG OR both?

[RouletteExplorer]

For me RNG is not Roulette. So I only care  about real roulette tables.

Thanks for your interest Superman I appreciate it.

Let s all try to think for new ideas. Let s unite our brains. let s overcome this dead end .

thank you

[Drazen]

I am not sure why i am i bothering with you and replying on this thread... but anyway...

What do you realy want Explorer??? System that will never lose? So called method?

It seems to me that that you are one of guys who have never entered in the casino, and only sitting whole day in front of PC waiting to get some method to test it to death on million of spins per session (consecutive) And when it fails you are even ready to fight when someone says that is possible to make money on roulette in long term..

Maybe you don't know, but here on forum we have some very good methods, which when applyed properly with respecting gamblers falacy and all rules of playing of gambling, win more then lose in longterm...

I don't get you, you are claiming that everything about roulette discovered by now is not enough to beat this game in longterm?? (exclude nonsense about computers) Well, you are very wrong.

You are very funny to me. You want some new approach, but don't even know closely how would that approach look like and what that could be... So that is answer to me that you don't know what are you looking for. You are lost about this game, or at least you didn't explored it enough 

Regards

Drazen

[RouletteExplorer]

drazen_cro I am not here looking for fights.
  If this is your impression about me I will not try to change it.
If this is your impression about the roulette game I am not going to change it either.
If you think that there are some good methods, which when applyed properly with respecting gamblers falacy and all rules of playing of gambling you can win more then lose in longterm then you are free to use them...
I just want to chat with educated members in here that have also explored roulette to the maximum and try to find a real winning method for all of us and not just for me.
So I will not bother with you again...it seems that you know the way so go and make your money and don't bother with me.
thanks

[Drazen]

Thanks for kind reply. Me neither wasnt trying to argue insluting or something like that and apolgize if you maybe got it at that way.

But yes, I belive and know that is possible to take money from this game. But apperantly not educated enough to chat with you. I respect your opinion. All the best in efforts to explore this game to level from which you could make constant profit.

Regards

Drazen

[RouletteExplorer]

I know that you and almost all the members in Roulette forums are angry and confused.( I have read almost all Topics in a lot of forums)
This preassure is comming not because they are a bad ppl... but because we may have put hopes in making money from this game... as long as we see that every system fails , then we need to canalise this anger somewere ...and this somewere is among us!

This is the bigger mistake in a roulette forum.
We are all Allies. Roulette is the enemy.
Thank you.

[Drazen]

We all i have to agree with you, but only without part that i am angry or confused  I am not.

I ll have to repeat myself again, but please let me ask you something.

How something heavier than air can be on sky, flying? Airplane from 50 tons in air? Or ship made of pure steel (which has much higher density than water) floating on water? If you look at that knowing only that it would seem impossible to you that is so. Something like physics against physics. But we all know that is so. And how people get to that conclusions? Well i belive first they were thinking outside of the box, than lot of researching and experimenting + lot of hard work through many years. Same thing about roulette... And after all not all people are possible to build airplane or ship from steel. It needs much much other things also...

And some people have spent their whole life exploring something and  found nothing. But other person found that in few years of its exploring maybe...

Regards

Drazen