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Started by Steve, Aug 10, 11:47 PM 2011

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Steve

When I played RNG, probably the most common system I used is explained below. Like any rng method, it eventually tanks. But way back in the RNG days I did pretty well with it.

THE START: FIRST NOTE YOUR BANKROLL. You must always know if you are up or down the last time you were at THE START. Begin by betting 1 unit on 10 numbers. If you lose, bet the same numbers again, PLUS on the winning number. Apply the following progression:

Whenever you have lost twice (doesn't need to be consecutive losses), and your bankroll is still not UP from the START, add another 2 chips to all bets. It will look something like below, although it will be a bit different as you'll have some wins in between losses:

If covering 10 numbers: bet 1 unit per number
If covering 12 numbers: bet 3 units per number
If covering 14 numbers: bet 5 units per number
If covering 16 numbers: bet 7 units per number
If covering 18 numbers: bet 9 units per number
If covering 20 numbers: bet 11 units per number
If covering 22 numbers: bet 11 units per number
If covering 24 numbers: bet 11 units per number
If covering 26 numbers: bet 11 units per number
If covering 28 numbers: bet 11 units per number
If covering 30 numbers: bet 11 units per number
If covering 32 numbers: bet 11 units per number, and start to excrement yourself
If covering 34 numbers: bet 11 units per number, pray to "Camhux Scatter", the roulette God. Don't ask for anything. Tell him what a c*nt he can be.


RULES:

After each win, check your bankroll. If your bankroll has increased since the START, return to THE START, beginning with 10 numbers with 1 unit.

After each win, if your bankroll has still not increased from the START, continue by betting on the same numbers, except remove the bet on the number you won on. FOR ALL OTHER NUMBERS, KEEP THE SAME BET SIZE WHICH MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS THE ABOVE PROGRESSION TABLE. Continue until your bankroll has increased since the START, then return to the START.

If your bankroll ever reaches 50% or lower from the START, then return to the START.
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Drazen

Hi Steve. Why is this system for RNG? What is difference beetwen working on live wheel and RNG?

It makes me sick when i see someone is even mentioning playing on RNG (because that is not roulette , and that tells all about seriousity of player)

Also when someone asks "is this system for RNG?" or when i see "RNG" or "live wheel" system in explanation... One of the biggest rubish sayings that exist on forum.

Thanks for posting

Regards

Drazen



superman

QuoteIt makes me sick when i see someone is even mentioning playing on RNG (because that is not roulette , and that tells about seriousity of player)

Then don't read it, getting sick is not nice mate.

Quotebecause that is not roulette

This we know, players who attack the RNG are only using the roulette table as a place to place bets, it may suprise you but there are plenty here and elsewhere that only play RNG becuase of it's speed.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Steve

I published it out of interest, because thats what most people seem interested in whether or not rng can be beaten. That is the rng system I used when I played rng.

Correct rng is not roulette. It is a slot machine with roulette animations.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
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Drazen

Quote from: superman on Aug 11, 02:30 AM 2011

This we know, players who attack the RNG are only using the roulette table as a place to place bets, it may suprise you but there are plenty here and elsewhere that only play RNG because of it's speed.

Speed, yes... well thanks for explanation but i guess i will never understand peoples naivety...

superman

Quotei will never understand peoples naivety

Like I said, we know what RNG is mate, you worry about your game and RNG players will worry about theirs, thanks for your concern though.

@ Steve

I've botted it with your progression and rules, one question, if iafter a win and still behind, I remove that number which starts to reduce the number of numbers covered, currently I am allowing the progression to reduce to suit the amount of numbers covered, is this correct or do you keep the progression at the higher level, see reveal

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There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Bayes

Quote from: drazen_cro on Aug 11, 02:26 AM 2011
Hi Steve. Why is this system for RNG? What is difference beetwen working on live wheel and RNG?

It makes me sick when i see someone is even mentioning playing on RNG (because that is not roulette , and that tells all about seriousity of player)

If RNG isn't roulette, why did you ask what the difference is?

Roulette IS an RNG (Random Number Generator), and it's designed to return 97.3% of all stakes placed. The only difference between a wheel (assuming it's not biased) and an 'RNG' is that in the first case the spins are generated mechanically, and in the second they're generated electronically.

Rigged online casino RNGs are an entirely separate issue.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

Drazen

I understand that dear Bayes, just give me where can I play on "real" rng-s, not pseudo cheaters...


There are two principal methods used to generate random numbers. One measures some physical
phenomenon that is expected to be random and then compensates for possible biases in the measurement process. The other uses computational algorithms that produce long sequences of apparently random results, which are in fact completely determined by a shorter initial value, known as a seed or key. The latter type are often called pseudorandom number generators.

A "random number generator" based solely on deterministic computation cannot be regarded as a "true" random number generator, since its output is inherently predictable. How to distinguish a "true" random number from the output of a pseudo-random number generator is a very difficult problem. However, carefully chosen pseudo-random number generators can be used instead of true random numbers in many applications. Rigorous statistical analysis of the output is often needed to have confidence in the algorithm.

Regards

Drazen

Bayes

Hi drazen_cro,

I see your point, but you have to ask youself WHO stands to gain from a biased RNG? surely it has to be the player, not the casino? in which case, it's in the casino's interest to make sure the RNG is as random as possible. No different from a wheel in a B&M casino.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

frost

Quote from: Steve on Aug 10, 11:47 PM 2011
Begin by betting 1 unit on 10 numbers. If you lose, bet the same numbers again, PLUS on the winning number.


so now we are betting 1 unit on 11 numbers? (not on the progression list)


Quote from: Steve on Aug 10, 11:47 PM 2011
Whenever you have lost twice (doesn't need to be consecutive losses), and your bankroll is still not UP from the START, add another 2 chips to all bets. It will look something like below, although it will be a bit different as you'll have some wins in between losses:


also


Quote from: Steve on Aug 10, 11:47 PM 2011
After each win, if your bankroll has still not increased from the START, continue by betting on the same numbers, except remove the bet on the number you won on.



so if we are betting on say 13 numbers do we bet 3 or 5 units?

Drazen

@ Bayes

My friend, that key is changing all the time... So that fits to the current casino balance needed. Have you ever heard of human greed?  Yes even casino owners have it...

Best example. Have you ever heard that even live tables can be  rigged? I mean magnetized? In my country almost all are like that... Pit boss looks from camera in his secret room at the table, and he just set opposite from biggest bet on table using magnets when he needs some extra money. Yap.

gambling RNG-s are even worse...

Regards

Drazen

frost

Drazen


if you believe this why do you choose to play this game? if one casino can get away with such acts and it is common knowledge do you not think all casinos would practice this as well? after all the aim is make more money by any means necessary?

Drazen

Quote from: frost on Aug 11, 06:18 AM 2011
Drazen


if you believe this why do you choose to play this game? if one casino can get away with such acts and it is common knowledge do you not think all casinos would practice this as well? after all the aim is make more money by any means necessary?

No my friend. Not all casinos. I am on Balkan. Things are quite different here, you know... Mafia holds all casinos. And laws and fighitng against that, well that is another story.. In EU there is no such things...

I know all this for sure. Well after all our best luck is that exists devices which discover these magnets under roulettes... So you know which you should avoid...

Regards

Drazen

frost

Quote from: drazen_cro on Aug 11, 06:45 AM 2011
No my friend. Not all casinos. I am on Balkan. Things are quite different here, you know... Mafia holds all casinos. And laws and fighitng against that, well that is another story.. In EU there is no such things...

I know all this for sure. Well after all our best luck is that exists devices which discover these magnets under roulettes... So you know which you should avoid...

Regards

Drazen


okay. i understand now.

RouletteExplorer

Thanks for posting the system Steve. It seems clever.
I also laughed with the comments of the last 2 legs of progression  :) .
What we need is new thinking...

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