I have decided to make public the mathematically infallible roulette system

[mr.ore]

NOOOOOOOOOO mr . ore!!!
the betting size must also be reset to 1 and 1 chips !

To explain my implemntation and understanding of a system, some code might be useful:

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class Winner3 : public RouletteSystem {
   
        protected:
            int m_Balance;
            int m_Bet;
            int m_BetID;
            int m_Loses;
            int m_Wins;
           
        public:
       
            virtual void reset(){
                m_Balance = 0;
                m_Bet = 1;
                m_Loses = 0;
                m_Wins = 0;
            }
       
            virtual void placeBets(){
               
                //if (false) // UNcomment to disable bet size limiting
                if (m_Balance + m_Bet > 1) {
                    m_Bet = -m_Balance + 1;
                }
               
                if (m_Bet < 1)
                        m_Bet = 1;
               
                m_BetID = bet_event(event::_or(event::dozen(0), event::dozen(1)),m_Bet,&m_Balance);
            }
       
            virtual void evaluateBets(){
                if (m_Balance >= 1) {
                    reset();
                } else {
                    bool bWon = false;
                    if (bet_won(m_BetID)) {
                        m_Wins++;
                        bWon = true;
                        double divisor = double(1.5*m_Loses-m_Wins);
                        if (divisor <= 0.0) { // avoid division by zero
                            m_Bet = 1;
                        } else {
                            m_Bet = ceil(-m_Balance/divisor);
                        }
                    }
                    if (bet_lost(m_BetID)) {
                        m_Loses++;
                    }
                   
                   
                    if (bWon) {
                        m_Wins = m_Loses = 0; // comment to disable
                    }
                }
            }
    };


[mr.ore]

"author" version does not work well, it fails if a series of LLLWLLLLWLLLLWWLLLLLWLWLLLLWW... is too long and recovers on a concentration of wins, but before that bets are too big

[RouletteExplorer]

ok i see thanks. althought the Ls and Ws that you posted above can t happen because we are not speaking about Ecs but about 2 covered dozens.But I can understand that a bad fluxuation may arrive.
Let s see if Ophis has the same results when and if he will make his program
thanks

[winner3]

Thank You all for the cooperation, whenever we reach equality or win a chip the calculation of the bet must be restarted.

mr.ore you can try to change in your simulation the fixed number 1,5 with the fixed number 1,4 or 1,3 getting even more rapid recoveries.

Thanks to everyone 's attention.

"No one can possibly win at roulette unless he steals money from the table while the croupier isn't looking." â€" Albert Einstein

I proved him wrong ... 

Winner3

[superman]

Thanks mr.ore you saved me some time, I don't think another programmer will make the results any better unless mr.ore did it wrong? did he?

[marivo]

Question:
Do we reset calculation (number of W and L) after every new +?

[RouletteExplorer]

YES

[RouletteExplorer]

It seems like WINNER3 has abandon us ... lol
I guess it s one of all systems that are using a money managment plan and is losing.

[atlantis]

You can play as FLAT_INO intimated and which is also similar to my idea in Notepad:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/the-notepad/the-winning-thought/

and play alternatively by betting the EC and LINE to cover 2 dozens...

Rules (slightly different to "winning thought")
====

Each spin play LOW (1-18) and LINE (19-24) - well those are ones I prefer!

The line bet is always HALF the amount of the low bet.

Start with 1u on EC + 0.5u on LINE.

If LOSE A SPIN then continue play at SAME LEVEL until a HIT - then if behind increase EC by 1u and LINE by 0.5
If WIN A SPIN and level or ahead then decrease to starting level (1u on EC + 0.5u on LINE)
If WIN A SPIN and not level or ahead continue at SAME LEVEL.
====

Played Wiesbaden session:
382 spins. +123.5
Highest bet 9uLOW + 4.5uLINE
Real numbers. Played on single 0 with le partage

Maybe can be tweaked/adjusted by adapting the formula?

I would also like winner3 to come back on and provide a spin session example for clarity.

A.

[RouletteExplorer]

I tested the system exactly as winner3 posted and explained.
  The bets can NOT go so hight as in the mr.ore testing.
We are betting the 2/3 of the numbers in every bet so the winning spins will always be more then the losing spins.

In this example the bets never got higher of betting 3 chips on each dozen:

LLLLWLLWWLWLLLWLWWWLWWLWW =13 L and 12 W .
The result is only -20 chips in the end

Please mr.ore can you run the same example in your Program to see if your results are the same?
Thank you
 

[RouletteExplorer]

Winner3 has included in his FORMULA  everything:
The analogy of the winning spins and the losing spins + the losses that will come from the ZERO. + the losing chips of the BR in every spin
And all this analogy is comming from the betting of the 2/3 of the table in every spin...

The bets can not go so high as mr .ore results of testing....
I would accept to have a very long string of play in some fluxuations till the recovery(and the end of the session) BUT this DOWNS can not happen with this system.
I can also accept the graph in the end of let s say 30.000 spins to be MINUS but this minus will be happen VERYYYYY slow.....we can t have those GRAND canyon Downs.....

Roulette is Random ... but its random between some paramiters....and the paramiters are comming from the maths. So You can t bet the 2/3 of the numners and have :

LLLLWLLLLLLWLLLLLWLLLLLWLLLLLLLWLLWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLW etc.

In the Roulette extreme the graph of this examle on Dozens would be something like:

Dozen 1     Dozen 2      Dozen 3
   
    3                 4                44  !!!!!!!!!!   This can t happen !                   
...

so i think we should find a right programmer and test it properly....
Thank you

[keel44]

Winner3 has included in his FORMULA  everything:
The analogy of the winning spins and the losing spins + the losses that will come from the ZERO. + the losing chips of the BR in every spin
And all this analogy is comming from the betting of the 2/3 of the table in every spin...

The bets can not go so high as mr .ore results of testing....
I would accept to have a very long string of play in some fluxuations till the recovery(and the end of the session) BUT this DOWNS can not happen with this system.
I can also accept the graph in the end of let s say 30.000 spins to be MINUS but this minus will be happen VERYYYYY slow.....we can t have those GRAND canyon Downs.....

Roulette is Random ... but its random between some paramiters....and the paramiters are comming from the maths. So You can t bet the 2/3 of the numners and have :

LLLLWLLLLLLWLLLLLWLLLLLWLLLLLLLWLLWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLW etc.

In the Roulette extreme the graph of this examle on Dozens would be something like:

Dozen 1     Dozen 2      Dozen 3
   
    3                 4                44  !!!!!!!!!!   This can t happen !                   
...

so i think we should find a right programmer and test it properly....
Thank you

Very well said, I thought those graphs looked funny.  Can you post the formula again, very clearly?

[mr.ore]

It was an example, not real session, just that if loses dominates over a LONG period of time, it loses. There were three dots after that, and it was a bad example not to be taken literaly. It would probably recoup nice on that sequence...

[RouletteExplorer]

mr ore I also didn t take ur example leteraly... i am just sayng !!!
just now i found a HELL session from real spins.....till now i have only 23 wins and 27 losses !!! and don t forget I am betting 2 dozens !!! the 2/3 of the numbers....
Now the down is -154 chips.
1st dozen   2nd dozen         3d dozen
29 !                 14                  15   
It supposed that as I will continue playing the ballance will come....so this is a system that needs patience and IF its a winner in some cases it will tale a LOTTTT of spins....

Oh and the maximum bet pes dozens is 9 chips on each.

[mr.ore]

This system is higly chaotic - I have found a session from hell, where if you remove ONE FIRST NUMBER, then no crazy drawdown happens. ONE loss made a difference, wow. Because one loss, system have drawdown -16783 units 232 spins later. That's a chaos!