Possible Holy Grail of Turbo Genius

[RouletteExplorer]

If you look at this link there is system that turbo genius had made in the past.
link:://turbogenius.webs.com/possibleholygrail.htm

Its about straight numbers but it can be adapted on any bet(splits,corners,streets etc)

If we take aa look at his testing graph of 13.000 spins the system is a winner(on those spins) and the biggest down inside the spins is about -1.200 chips....
If we adapt this system on Double Streets it means that this -1.200 would be -200...because 1.200:6=200.

Has anyone tested this system further???
I think GLC has tested it a lot in the past....Can you tell us your results please?
Or anyone elses results?
Or any comments on this system.

Thanks.

[RouletteExplorer]

The INTERESTING point in this link is that TURBO tested the system on the same numbers with 2 ways.
1)Pick the numbers to bet randomly
2)Pick the numbers that was behind in showing up

The 2nd was a winner and the 1st was a loser..... So does that means that there are indeed better bet selections by the maths??? Food for thought

Anyway I adapted the system on Double Streets (Less BR needed and also less time to wait until the less hit shows up) .
I also changed something else....
He say that if we have to bet on more bets(because the bet spin cycle finished without a win) we can chose any number from the less hit if they have equal hits...
I WAS NOT chosing any of the double streets if they has same amount of hits !
I was increasing the bet by +1 chip on the same bet(that i hadn t win) and when a new double street had the least hits, then i was betting on it on the same cycle as the other double street that i was betting.

I also changed 1 more thing...
If I was in a new Profit and I was looking for a new double street to bet (with 1 chip for the start of a new cycle) If 2-3 double streets has the same amount of hits I was waiting in the next spins for just 1 double street to have the less hits and I was starting the new betting cycle....

I tested around 600 spins .
The biggest down was 44 chips
The profit was + 376 chips.

[LuckoftheIrish]

If you look at this link there is system that turbo genius had made in the past.
link:://turbogenius.webs.com/possibleholygrail.htm

Its about straight numbers but it can be adapted on any bet(splits,corners,streets etc)

If we take aa look at his testing graph of 13.000 spins the system is a winner(on those spins) and the biggest down inside the spins is about -1.200 chips....
If we adapt this system on Double Streets it means that this -1.200 would be -200...because 1.200:6=200.

Has anyone tested this system further???
I think GLC has tested it a lot in the past....Can you tell us your results please?
Or anyone elses results?
Or any comments on this system.

Thanks.

He based this system on:

link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/1unitpervisit.htm

Well I just tested this system, 1 unit per visit.  I tested on over 1 million spins, and the results were negative.

Placed bets: 217 016
End Result: -37 830 units.

Just like all of his other systems, this one fails.  His systems are primarily based on sleepers.  I have tested the sleeper theory exhaustively and there is no edge there whatsoever.

[GLC]

RE,


I think this is a very stable system.  I have it on every bet except corners and even chances.


Same as you, I did well on Lines and Streets.  Dozens don't seem to work as well, nor does even chances although there's no real reason why they shouldn't work also.


My tests on lines and streets don't quite match his 12,000 + spins test on single numbers, but I did come out a winner.


The nice thing about double streets is that you can play for a reasonable length of time and probably reach a stopping point.  Playing on the single numbers, you can feel like you're going to be asked to pay rent before you finally get into plus territory so you can call it a day.


Since you brought it up again, I think I will test this again just to see if it's still better than most of the stuff out there.


Thanks,


G


P.S.  Unfortunately, I didn't keep detailed records of my testings.  In hind sight, I wish I had but I didn't know I would need them at the time.

[RouletteExplorer]

Dozens don't seem to work as well, nor does even chances although there's no real reason why they shouldn't work also.

I agree and this is my problem


I think I will test this again just to see if it's still better than most of the stuff out there.

I think IT IS still better than most of the stuff out there.

The nice thing about double streets is that you can play for a reasonable length of time and probably reach a stopping point.  Playing on the single numbers, you can feel like you're going to be asked to pay rent before you finally get into plus territory so you can call it a day.

My opinion is the same.... It is just NOT playable on straight numbers.

With some modifications on the bet selections I think it can become even better...
For e.g.. The thing that T. Genius say to pick 1 of any numbers that has the same less hits isn t so good.
In my case if 2-3 numbers(or D.Streets) have the same amount of hits, I am still betting the previous bet with +1 chip on it , but I am waiting for the less hit D.street to develop and then I am betting on it in the same cycle.

I believe that this Possible Holy grail is the best known system.

[iggiv]

just for your info guys. i know someone who knows Turbogenious well, and he told me that Turbogenious published only his losing systems, no winning stuff is publically revealed by him.
so u can take and use his ideas whatever just be aware...

[LuckoftheIrish]

Turbo has no winning system.  Many of his fallacy arguments on GG have been debunked through tests over the years. 

[RouletteExplorer]

Turbogenious published only his losing systems

This sounds reasonable but  iggiv do you think that Turbo has a winning system?

[LuckoftheIrish]

No he doesn't.

[RouletteExplorer]

Did he said so?

[LuckoftheIrish]

Well he can say differently all he wants.  All I know is that over the years dozens of characters have claimed to have holy grails.  Most kept them a secret.  But the few that I was able to test were all failures in the long run.

[RouletteExplorer]

I agree with you.
But I think that Turbo is not that kind of man.
I don t think that if he hadn t find something good he would ever post lies that he had.

[LuckoftheIrish]

Well either that is the case, or he thinks he has a holy grail.  I have devised progression systems that beat over 1 million decisions, but it always ends up negative eventually.

[RouletteExplorer]

I don t think that Turbo after all those years of expirience he would start playing for real if his system hadn t pass at least 2-3 million spins.....
Anyway only HE can know the truth .

[LuckoftheIrish]

Well I suppose it is possible he has a holy grail, but then again anything really is possible.