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Started by amk, Aug 31, 07:30 PM 2011

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marivo

Quote from: amk on Sep 13, 04:13 PM 2011
Woods101, all I can say is that I have tested 625 games and lost 3 on random.org, no zero..........

Does it mean: 625 units - 240 units = 385 units profit?
For continuous play?

amk

Indeed so marivo...............

marivo

Isnt't this same as code4 only we are waiting 4 spins instead 12?  ???

amk

Quote from: marivo on Sep 22, 08:22 AM 2011
Isnt't this same as code4 only we are waiting 4 spins instead 12?  ???

Marivo, by definition this has to be different then CODE4............

We are not waiting 12 spins but 4...............

woods101

Sniffing 'round. looking for the scent...

topcat888

Interesting.... ???

Chrisbis

Interesting indeed.

At first glance, my impression was, that looks like a really good, smooth progression of profit and
bankroll growth.

Steady climb, of about a 20/24* angle with beautiful little "Icicles" of down-draws along the journey.

Then I blew up the image, to have a close look, and the first stage of this bet, before the Dawn Chorus arrived, and a different story emerges.

Take a look at this section of the graph, with out any markers on, and that early dip into recession, looks like a total reversal of fortune,  of BR gain.
[attachimg=1]

Then look at it with a straight line indicator, pulled right from the 500 measurement, and You can see...
the bankroll increase, would have gone, in less than 75 spins!
Back to 500 base!

This is the problem with some bets, how to capitalize on early flat-ish but steady growth, and keep hold of that BR, knowing the Double Dip is bound to happen.
Maybe a change in the Unit value used after 'X' number of spins?
[attachimg=2]

Thoughts anyone, and some solutions to the problem?
Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

topcat888

Well spotted Chris and good point..! I was testing with a bankroll of 500 and bet units of 5 but obviously that could be changed so that the bankroll wasn't in danger (500 BR/1 unit bets)...

Whilst this was a short run (in testing terms) the interesting point to me was that it did not suffer a max progression loss during that session...

Regards

Mudiru

Could this be a constant winner at BV NZ?
From little ACORNS GROW MIGHTY OAKS. (Johnlegend)

woods101

Quote from: Chrisbis on Nov 16, 03:48 PM 2011
Interesting indeed.

At first glance, my impression was, that looks like a really good, smooth progression of profit and
bankroll growth.

Steady climb, of about a 20/24* angle with beautiful little "Icicles" of down-draws along the journey.

Then I blew up the image, to have a close look, and the first stage of this bet, before the Dawn Chorus arrived, and a different story emerges.

Take a look at this section of the graph, with out any markers on, and that early dip into recession, looks like a total reversal of fortune,  of BR gain.
[attachimg=1]

Then look at it with a straight line indicator, pulled right from the 500 measurement, and You can see...
the bankroll increase, would have gone, in less than 75 spins!
Back to 500 base!

This is the problem with some bets, how to capitalize on early flat-ish but steady growth, and keep hold of that BR, knowing the Double Dip is bound to happen.
Maybe a change in the Unit value used after 'X' number of spins?
[attachimg=2]

Thoughts anyone, and some solutions to the problem?

Hi Chris,

I'd say ride it out. The dip is about 50u for a period of 5 spins(?) or so and then recovers (stage 3 progression maybe at a guess). As topcat says it didn't max out the progression once in 1200 spins. I'd say that's not bad. For a total progression loss of 80 units then even one blowout in this example would leave you with 300u approx left.

(Come to the darkside luke! I know you want to!  8) )

(Or alternatively -Do you take the red pill...or the blue pill?  ;) )

Woods

Chrisbis

Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

woods101


superman

QuoteMaybe a change in the Unit value used after 'X' number of spins?

LOL, define 'X' as you know, or should know already, it's a moving target
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Chrisbis

Well, in the above graphical example, lets say, we play with 2 units as the base level, upto the 50th spin.
Then drop to 1.5 or 1 for the base level for the next 50 spins.
(I know someone is going to say, I am viewing this with Hypothetical eyes!)

If the test was repeated and repeated, over and over again, and the same test data and graph comes back, then U could begin to alter the Inner structure of the bet design, and maybe alter the MM side of things, to achieve a "cleaner" ride?

Or, do U get into your stride from the outset, and parlay this bet, in batches.

Lets run test with a variety of rules, and step changes, and see which suits this "Random Challenging" system?

your thorts always welcome Neal. You know so much more than I on this stuff!!>  :P
Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

superman

Quotewe play with 2 units as the base level, upto the 50th spin. Then drop to 1.5 or 1 for the base level for the next 50 spins

X = 50 then, that may work on your first run but X wont = 50 on the next attempt, your basing it on what the historical graph is showing you, X may never = 50 again!!
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

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