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Started by Twisteruk, Aug 04, 02:53 PM 2010

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keel44

The only problem I have is that the progression is so steep, the other 2 even chances do not help you out at all.  If you have 3 on low...1 on even....63 on red.  What is the point of the lower amounts other than to make your results happen more quickly.  The needs to be a less steep progression and maybe take some more time to finish a session.

Just a thought


KEEL

Twisteruk

Quote from: keel44 on Aug 06, 12:49 PM 2010
The only problem I have is that the progression is so steep, the other 2 even chances do not help you out at all.  If you have 3 on low...1 on even....63 on red.  What is the point of the lower amounts other than to make your results happen more quickly.  The needs to be a less steep progression and maybe take some more time to finish a session.

Just a thought


KEEL

Hi, thanx for ure question

The point of the other bets is just that, if they were not there you wudnt have any bets running ?
The further up the Progression you go the more you win, but also have potetial to lose more too

KEEL, do you have another Staking Plan in mind ?


Thanx for ure input  :)
Its Set In Stone =)

GLC

Quote from: Twisteruk on Aug 06, 01:01 PM 2010
Hi, thanx for ure question

The point of the other bets is just that, if they were not there you wouldn't have any bets running ?
The further up the Progression you go the more you win, but also have potetial to lose more too

KEEL, do you have another Staking Plan in mind ?


Thanx for ure input  :)

Twisteruk,

Just some observations.  Any bet selection that wins with a martingale, will win with any other mechanical bet selection.  It may take a lot longer to overcome the small losses along the way, but in the end you should be at about the same place as far as amounts won.

The fastest way to win is the martingale because you make up for a lot of losses with 1 win.  The problem is that a loss wipes out a lot of wins.  The Fibonacci is similar, but a little less volatile.  The Alembert is much less volatile, but feels like more of a grind to get to the same place.  Ditto the 2up/2down, bread winner, etc...

Once again if your bet selection is a winner they will all win in the long run.  If it isn't, then without luck they will all eventually lose.  Right now is seems that by betting a martingale, you have a winning method of play.  Only time will tell. 

Lanky's 6 point divisor gives us the most control over the size of our bets as we get to a win.  It does take some calculations along with some decisions as to when to incorporate the brake, and may be too complicated to do on three different bets in a busy situation and so may not be practical.

Testing different betting methods on the same numbers is a pretty good way to determine which method meets your personal temperament.

I, also, like the limited martingale because I like winning small wins on a regular basis.  I hate the occasional loss which takes me to a win point hours or even days worth of play ago.

Just my take on it.

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Twisteruk

Yes, I agree 100%

Also, yup it is luck that I havent lost as there is no 100% fool proof way to win with Roulette....as yet ive found anyway !

Do you have a suggestion for a staking plan ?

Ive found you need 8 levels, but 9 would be nice just incase !


Cheers for ure input  :)
Its Set In Stone =)

PelleG

 ;D
Its fantastic
Mvh PelleG

keel44

O.K.  I just tried this out with RNG.  I won 22 units in about half an hour. (maybe 65-70 spins)


This is how I played:


My bet selection is exactly the same twisteruk.  (alternating even chances)
After a loss, I raise the stakes +2 (for that particular even chance)
After a win, I reset back to 1 (for that particular even chance)

* If I win when betting 10 or more, I reset that particular even chance back to 2.  If that even chance goes to 10 or more again and wins, I reset back to 3 .......... and so on.

* Reset everything back to 1 when balance reaches even or new high point.


This is MUCH more of a grind, but the bankroll is MUCH more safe.  You could even play with higher units like $5 chips.

Give yourself a loss target and keep truckin' along.  I think 100 unit bankroll is safe.




KEEL

Twisteruk

Thanx KEEL for your reply  :)


Cheers !
Its Set In Stone =)

Twisteruk

Had a couple of PM's about the System, but sorry they got deleted somehow before I replied.

Yes I continue to play

The Table I play at has increased its Max bet to Ã,£1000
On another Forum I've wrote that you can use a level 9 if you need too.

I still continue to be lucky. I've not gone bust on a level 8 yet. But I accept it can and will happen at some point.


I usually win btwn Ã,£75-Ã,£95 per hour per table

On REAL WHEELS not RNG
Its Set In Stone =)

catalyst

hi twisteruk
any news regarding your system since your last post.  have you won or busted?
i have some study with your system.  probably we can use virtual bet for the first two steps to save our bankroll. 
thanks
catalyst

Hermes

You can mess with RNGs for fun but never mess with RNGs with real money because your name would change to MONKEY!
This system could work but why don't replace the Marty with Fibonacci? 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-36-55. It is less painful. Don't wait for 2 wins to go to minimum. Go after every win to minimum.
Or use Win +1 unit, 2Losses -1unit.
Cheers Hermes

albalaha

Martingale is the most unwise progression to be used. Roulette is a game of negative expactancy, if you think your method as holy grail and used martingale with positive expectations, you are bound to lose whatever you earned till now.

Twisteruk

Quote from: catalyst on Oct 23, 07:21 PM 2010
Hi twisteruk
any news regarding your system since your last post.  have you won or busted?
i have some study with your system.  probably we can use virtual bet for the first two steps to save our bankroll. 
thanks
catalyst

I still play it from time to time, last week I won Ã,£300 playing this System  :thumbsup:


However I see the game in a totally different way now to when I posted this System, thanx to Victor  :)







Quote from: Hermes on Oct 23, 10:25 PM 2010
You can mess with RNGs for fun but never mess with RNGs with real money because your name would change to MONKEY!
This system could work but why don't replace the Marty with Fibonacci? 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-36-55. It is less painful. Don't wait for 2 wins to go to minimum. Go after every win to minimum.
Or use Win +1 unit, 2Losses -1unit.
Cheers Hermes




Very wise words from Hermes, heed them well  :thumbsup:
Its Set In Stone =)

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