ATTENTION ! Street system that passed 10.000 spins!

[RouletteExplorer]

I Completely AGREE with Speed.
Playing constrantly or playing with breaks or playing an other day can NOT make any deference at all !
Randomness is adding up and the resaults will be the same...the point is not how many hours you play or how many breaks you do BUT how many spins you play in total.

This is mathimaticaly proven and VERY LOGICAL TOO.

[iggiv]

OK guys, i don't mind, we all are entitled to our opinions.

i just wonder how much legitimate literature on gambling have u read? Well, whatever.

[speed]

I Completely AGREE with Speed.
Playing constrantly or playing with breaks or playing an other day can NOT make any deference at all !
Randomness is adding up and the results will be the same...the point is not how many hours you play or how many breaks you do BUT how many spins you play in total.

This is mathematically proven and VERY LOGICAL TOO.

[iggiv]

2:1, consider me losing this argument  . easy win.

i wish u both to win in casino  for long hours 2:1 too, but that's gonna be harder, men

[RouletteExplorer]

Iggiv as the years pass by and a Roulette Explorer is exploring EVERYTHING in the "Roulette world" ,he is constantly building his knowledje .
All this knowledje is comming and is building up in stages....

As the years will pass and IF you are still exploring roulette and the maths of it you will also realise what Me and Speed are telling you.

I am not saying that you are not a very good understander and explorer , but this stage(that me and speed we are telling you) hasn t come for you yet.

But because you are also smart I bet that you will realise it too. And I know that I will not lose this bet on you 

[speed]

2:1, consider me losing this argument  . easy win.

i wish u both to win in casino  for long hours 2:1 too, but that's gonna be harder, men

Ok,lets focus on system, ophis need sample session (40 spins) of this system to verify  the tracker.
Can somebody do that?

[RouletteExplorer]

I am really not good in giving examples with numbers so if someone else can do it , it would be nice.

I think the easier thing is for ophis to test a 40 spin sample of his own and tell the result...then he can give me the numbers and i will test manualy and tell if the results are matching.

[iggiv]

Ok, whatever.

let me give u an example. small example from real life.

u bet last 2 hot dozens. u just came to the table. and u place bets on last 2 dozens. is it possible and likely for u to win now? yes, quite. let's say u won. now u do it again. do You have the same chances to strike it again? no. You have less chances. but let's say u r on a winning strike. u won again. now next time -- do You have the same chances to win the third time? NO. 3 times in a row to win on last 2 dozens is much less chance You have now. But u continue to play. won! 3 times in a row u won.

what will  a smart gambler do now? get the hell out of there or stop playing the same strategy now. but no, your philosophy and math is still telling u that You have the same chances to win than before.
play it! no problem. play last 2 dozens for 2 hours in a row. and see how much u win now.

and look at the guy who will play it till he is ahead just a little (or lost just a little) and will come back tomorrow for just the same.

You have RX, You have lots of german spins for different days, try it. try playing 2 dozens for 2 hours in a row spin data and try playing them for each day data a little. and then show your graphs. do it a few times.

and let's see who is right or wrong.

the problem is, guys, that u don't know much about real life gambling, buds. u r thinking too abstract categories.

hopefully i did not make u upset

[RouletteExplorer]

"""hopefully i did not make u upset"""

No no i am not upset at all

I am just sad for you. And please don t take it wrong.

What if the moment you will start playing the last 2 dozens you will lose? and what if you do that in the next spin you will lose too !
And what uf you will now change strategy and the last 2 dozens will start hitting in the next 5 spins???
Won t you regret that you changed ur system???

Roulette is like water....it can not be trapped simple because we NEVER know where the water will flow....

Of cource if you will play 1 system(pattern) constantly you will lose in the long run...BUT the EXACT same thing will happen if you will be changing ur systems....simply because you can t know the f..cking WHEN the randomness will deside to change or to stay withe same pattern....

The thing you say Iggiv have been tested to death from expert roulette explorers and mathimaticians over the lots of years and they all came to the same comclusion.

Betting the same or altering ur bets CAN NOT CHANGE A THING !

Its all about luck....its all about IF the numbers (outcomes) will favour ur system-s or not.

[Chrisbis]

This has been Botted for Bet Voyager (No Zero RNG) by a friend of mine, and It tanked.
Sorry Jordan.


So, not suited for RNG.

Air-Ball, and Live wheels maybe?

He's what he said.
Name deleted for security reasons. He's not forum member.

***: well i tested it for many spins
***: when it reached -10000 units i stoped it
His bet failed?
***: yeah
***: i botted it, and left it for couple hours on bv
   *** christopher: and have U been able to analise Y it fails?
      ***: well i usually don't like to analyze the WHY
           christopher: Because the Sleeper street keeps moving eh?
             ***: but in that case i guess if a street sleeps for too long it sure fails
                ***: yeah that too
                   christopher: But isn't  he constantly moving the bet sleeper street?
                      christopher: Isn't that the difference here?
                         christopher: so a LONG sleep would not affect U
                            christopher: or have I read it wrong?
                              ***: i don't know if you did
                                  ***: give me an exact details
                                     christopher: k
                                       ***: you have a street sleepin for too long while the others are hitted normally
                                            christopher: 1)We are always looking of the LAST 12 SPINS and we see which streets are UNHIT(no hit)
2)We are betting all the UNHIT streets
3)Everytime that a NEW unhit street is showing up ,we adding on all the streets(and the new one) 1 chip.
4)Everytime that a street wins ,we are removing all the bets on that street(so we are leaving the others that are still unhit)
5)Everytime that a street wins and at the same spin a new one is showing up , we are removing the winning street and we are adding 1 chip to all the other streets plus the new that just showed up.
6)Everytime that we are in a new profit , we are reseting all the unhit streets and we are betting again 1 chip on all of them
***: in every spin the bet on the sleeper get's bigger till a point where the gains from the others don't cover it
***: i got it right i am sure about that

[RouletteExplorer]

well it was expected but let s see what ophis will say.

[iggiv]

"""hopefully i did not make u upset"""

No no i am not upset at all

I am just sad for you. And please don't take it wrong.

What if the moment you will start playing the last 2 dozens you will lose? and what if you do that in the next spin you will lose too !
And what uf you will now change strategy and the last 2 dozens will start hitting in the next 5 spins???
Won t you regret that you changed your system???

Roulette is like water....it can not be trapped simple because we NEVER know where the water will flow....

Of cource if you will play 1 system(pattern) constantly you will lose in the long run...BUT the EXACT same thing will happen if you will be changing your systems....simply because you can t know the f..cking WHEN the randomness will decide to change or to stay withe same pattern....

The thing you say Iggiv have been tested to death from expert roulette explorers and mathimaticians over the lots of years and they all came to the same comclusion.

Betting the same or altering your bets CAN NOT CHANGE A THING !

Its all about luck....its all about IF the numbers (outcomes) will favour your system-s or not.

OK good...nice. u won. don't try testing,  it has been tested by the best roulette explorers over the centuries. and don't try to read any gambling literature, You know more than all the authors taken together.

yeah u r right, i can't argue

[speed]

Ok, whatever.

let me give u an example. small example from real life.

u bet last 2 hot dozens. u just came to the table. and u place bets on last 2 dozens. is it possible and likely for u to win now? yes, quite. let's say u won. now u do it again. do You have the same chances to strike it again? no. You have less chances. but let's say u r on a winning strike. u won again. now next time -- do You have the same chances to win the third time? NO. 3 times in a row to win on last 2 dozens is much less chance You have now. But u continue to play. won! 3 times in a row u won.

what will  a smart gambler do now? get the hell out of there or stop playing the same strategy now. but no, your philosophy and math is still telling u that You have the same chances to win than before.
play it! no problem. play last 2 dozens for 2 hours in a row. and see how much u win now.

and look at the guy who will play it till he is ahead just a little (or lost just a little) and will come back tomorrow for just the same.

You have RX, You have lots of german spins for different days, try it. try playing 2 dozens for 2 hours in a row spin data and try playing them for each day data a little. and then show your graphs. do it a few times.

and let's see who is right or wrong.

the problem is, guys, that u don't know much about real life gambling, buds. u r thinking too abstract categories.

hopefully i did not make u upset

Upset WHY?
I see that is trying really hard to understand, think about this u come in casino and u plan to play hit and run some system. U plan to play him 1 year with one hour per day because u think that system can't fall in one hour. And u start play first day and u got bad series in first hour and losse all bankroll, You are leaving casino and thinking why am so stupied...I hope u understud now..

iggiv (sorry, i pressed a wrong button for reply):your problem is that u don't know about real life gambling bud. as many others in this forum.for this scenario You have a special money management, and if u follow the rules u will not lose your entire bankroll, u will lose just part of it and u quit and goin home. but You have no clue, i am sorry. i am not going to make here a lecture on  money management because u won't listen anyway, u guys know better of course. that's why u gonna be stuck in this tunnel vision stuff-- thinking that u always know better looking at progression as a cure. instead of getting out of the tunnel and see what's goin on in real life and where u will find  info about real life gambling. i am washing my hands on it, buds.

[nitrix]

@iggiv, your small sessions will line-up just as if it was a long session. No matter how you cut them.
Playing 20 spins or 10 times 2 spins is exactly the same.

You have to deal with the same amount of spins, so are the odds of winning vs. losing.

If I take your example, you'll win 2 times out of 3, we're you're gonna lose your previous winning if you don't use a progression. You bet, win. Bet again, win. Now you're on the threshold as you said, but bet one last time and win.

You were lucky enough to beat 3:1 odds, you won 3 times (3(spins) : 0(losses)).

Leaving right here is TOTALLY JUSTIFIED! Whoever doesn't leave now have to realise they are -PAST- the expected wins, they have much MUCH more higher chances of losing.

>> What I want you to realise is if you quit now and play the exact same hit&run strategy the day after, you're still facing the same odds. Leaving for a day and letting the wheel spin won't make it nicer with you. It doesn't have feelings, doesn't have minds. It just throw numbers in a random fashion.

Somebody could walk by a random generator and get "8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8...." non-stop and say "Hey, this isn't random at all". But it fact it is and you just happened to be there when this kind of run happened. You don't have very much reference to compare the results to.

In the long run tho, it'll even out. Thus if you randomly pick a number, say every 3 spins, or alternating 3,10 spins, or with a coin, whatever. The numbers picked with have ROUGHLY 50% blacks, 50% red, 1/36 #1's, 1/36 #2's, etc... The more numbers you pick, the more precise the statistic will get.

You can't evade odds. If you were lucky enough to not hit a pattern that is getting due. Put the money in your pocket and bet another pattern.

Going back the day after won't change anything. Only a progression could with the example you gave me.

[nitrix]

Okay the results!!!

It'd take forever to post the huge output file and explain how it actually works because I did it so /I/ can understand what I am doing and waste less time as possible, I'm sorry.

Tho, I do have good news!

The bet selection works! It really does a great, amazing job. A few things a noticed: It is really working due to Rule #6, since I implemented it, the system started making money.

And it does this very well. The problem comes past 300'000 spins, as for any systems, it'll start losing because it hits the very pattern you're betting agaisn't and when it happens, the losses get so high, your bankroll take a F-ing huge drop.

So I seen results going up and down 15k units, moving around for a good minute, and then this text appeared:

[!] Game over! You ran out of money.

I believe I did everything right, and I wasn't expecting anything else neither. The system is strong, I just wish it had something in place to protect the losses because when they happen, it's your whole bankroll you put at risk.