ATTENTION ! Street system that passed 10.000 spins!

[iggiv]

Ok teach me then .... what else is more in this game?

bud, due all my respect to your stubborness and energy about roulette, u don't want to open your mind and u still expect someone to teach u something u don't believe in. Nobody is gonna teach u, nobody is gonna bring u a gold on a nice blue plate. To learn you have to start it with yourself, and u don't want to start. You r too stubborn to embrace the reality. And Rob is right. there is MORE.
but i don't think u r gonna find out. it is a problem of "tunnel vision", and u r not only the one who has this problem. No one will give u help if u reject it.

i  hope u don't take this post as a personal attack. thanx

[RouletteExplorer]

"""I think most will agree with that statement, personally I don't think ANY bet selection is any better than any other, most bet selections are built from knee jerk reactions to what you see happening, wether it's matrix formations or the nice colours on the marquee, we see what has ALREADY happened, so don't concentrate on anything that needs too much tracking, you have the same odds if you bet on spin 1 as you would have if you tracked for 20 spins and bet on spin 21, the Same Odds."""

AMEN.
Thank God 1 more person with education.

[RouletteExplorer]

"""bud, due all my respect to your stubborness and energy about roulette, u don't want to open your mind and u still expect someone to teach u something u don't believe in. Nobody is gonna teach u, nobody is gonna bring u a gold on a nice blue plate. To learn you have to start it with yourself, and u don't want to start. you're too stubborn to embrace the reality. And Rob is right. there is MORE.
but i don't think u r gonna find out. it is a problem of "tunnel vision", and u r not only the one who has this problem. No one will give u help if u reject it.

i  hope u don't take this post as a personal attack. thanks"""


My post about teaching me was ajoke that I made.
If Roben or anyone else is here knew the way to beat this game they wouldn t be here....but they are here and they are still searching like all of us.

And iggiv I can t take anything that you say as an attack don't worry....I just feel sad for the people like you that are living in the darkand they are spreading this dark to others.

[RouletteExplorer]

Me
Kelly
Snowman
Turbo Genius
Forester
Laurence Scot
Steve
Superman
Speed

Are some members that they don t live in dark.( i am sure that i am forgeting 1 or 2 more)
Read their posts and learn from them....

[RouletteExplorer]

I will make a new Topic and we can all chat in there....
This Topic isn t the one to speak about these things.

thanks

[iggiv]

Me
Kelly
Snowman
Turbo Genius
Forester
Laurence Scot
Steve
Superman
Speed

Are some members that they don't live in dark.( i am sure that i am forgeting 1 or 2 more)
Read their posts and learn from them....

oh great! u and Laurance Scott! i will have to shut up and admit u r right 

[iggiv]

I will make a new Topic and we can all chat in there....
This Topic isn t the one to speak about these things.

thanks

yes, please do. maybe Laurance Scott will participate in this too

[Bayes]

@ RE,

The problem is you want it both ways. On the one hand you say that no bet selection is better than another, but you also admit that it MAY be possible to win with MM.  MM won't work on its own, that's just as certain as the -2.7%, and you know it.
You make patronizing comments and talk down to people but at the same time you're posting systems which according to your logic, can't win. 

Decide which side of the fence you're on, and stick to it for a change. Do you believe it's possible to be a consistent winner, or not?

As to "hit n run", I don't believe it makes any difference at all, but it can't do any HARM to bet that way, if it makes you feel better. 

[iggiv]

well...i think we should end this discussion here and better suggest new ways to make this system work...this is going off topic now

i already did almost in the beginning, but not too many really paid attention

[iggiv]

@ RE,



As to "hit n run", I don't believe it makes any difference at all, but it can't do any HARM to bet that way, if it makes you feel better. 

Bayes and making bet selections wider, using hot streets instead  of cold, using other hot trends won't make a difference either? combining this with other bet selections?

for math people this all does not make difference probably, but in reality it does

[RouletteExplorer]

"""""The problem is you want it both ways. On the one hand you say that no bet selection is better than another, but you also admit that it MAY be possible to win with MM.  MM won't work on its own, that's just as certain as the -2.7%, and you know it.
You make patronizing comments and talk down to people but at the same time you're posting systems which according to your logic, can't win.   

Decide which side of the fence you're on, and stick to it for a change. Do you believe it's possible to be a consistent winner, or not?

As to "hit n run", I don't believe it makes any difference at all, but it can't do any HARM to bet that way, if it makes you feel better.  """""""""""""""

I am glad that u also understand that Hit and RUN can t work....

As for me and MM plans....
Yes ofcource I know that the -2.7 can t be altered with MM or bet (selections)
But I Just trying to make the impossible...

But I am not losing my time in gambling fallacies like Hit and Run stuff....

[Bayes]

iggiv,

I use all those approaches you mention, for me that has nothing to do with hit & run. I've written quite a few posts on hit & run in the past (JohnLegend's systems all rely on it). For me hit & run is thinking that it makes a difference keeping your sessions short - nothing to do with bet selection.

Hit & run might even work if you knew WHEN to quit. But merely limiting a session to just a few spins in the hope that you will dodge the losing sequences is pointless and illogical.

[warrior]

"""""The problem is you want it both ways. On the one hand you say that no bet selection is better than another, but you also admit that it MAY be possible to win with MM.  MM won't work on its own, that's just as certain as the -2.7%, and you know it.
You make patronizing comments and talk down to people but at the same time you're posting systems which according to your logic, can't win.   

Decide which side of the fence you're on, and stick to it for a change. Do you believe it's possible to be a consistent winner, or not?

As to "hit n run", I don't believe it makes any difference at all, but it can't do any HARM to bet that way, if it makes you feel better.  """""""""""""""

I am glad that u also understand that Hit and RUN can t work....

As for me and MM plans....
Yes ofcource I know that the -2.7 can t be altered with MM or bet (selections)
But I Just trying to make the impossible...

But I am not losing my time in gambling fallacies like Hit and Run stuff....

HIT AND HIDE IS GREAT STRATAGIE.

[Robeenhuut]

"""bud, due all my respect to your stubborness and energy about roulette, u don't want to open your mind and u still expect someone to teach u something u don't believe in. Nobody is gonna teach u, nobody is gonna bring u a gold on a nice blue plate. To learn you have to start it with yourself, and u don't want to start. you're too stubborn to embrace the reality. And Rob is right. there is MORE.
but i don't think u r gonna find out. it is a problem of "tunnel vision", and u r not only the one who has this problem. No one will give u help if u reject it.

i  hope u don't take this post as a personal attack. thanks"""


My post about teaching me was ajoke that I made.
If Roben or anyone else is here knew the way to beat this game they wouldn t be here....but they are here and they are still searching like all of us.

And iggiv I can t take anything that you say as an attack don't worry....I just feel sad for the people like you that are living in the darkand they are spreading this dark to others.

Hello RE

You know  that u never too old to learn something stupid. Its my only reason to be on this forum if you get it

Regards

[Colbster]

I understand how difficult having a enlightened conversation can be when there is a moderator that only wants to shoot down and dismiss thoughtful questions and comments.  I am afraid that a solid system is being overshadowed by the personal arguments, but I would like to continue discussing this actual, specific method, as I think it has some merits.

The deep losses are easily controlled through some sort of a stop loss that is not too steep to be recovered through the frequent generous gains that we can get through the method outlined here.  As a starting point, I looked at the table limit for BV NZ for the lines and found it to be 15.  If we were to play to 15, that would be a total of 27 spins that a line has missed.  Not that far out of the norm for a single line, but for several lines at the same time, it becomes quite unlikely.  How unlikely?  After our first 12 spins, suppose we have 4 unhit lines.  Our odds of those same 4 not having been hit after another 15 spins will be (2/3)^27, or 134,217,728/7,625,597,484,987 or 1/56,815.  We all know that a series exists that will wipe us out - fine!  Max loss for 4 lines, increasing from 1 to 15 is 480 units 4*(1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15).

We have 2 options.  We can play just up to 7 as a maximum bet, which would allow us to break even (7*12=84 won, with 3*28 lost on the other 3 numbers = a wash), or we can incrementally adjust our bets to the new situation and bet the rest of the progression up to the table limit.  Where I was having trouble with this betting method was when I followed R Ex's instructions, I was adding 1 unit to a new line that was just entering the collection of lines not hit in the last 12 spins.  By this time, there were other lines that were on 10, 11 or 15 times sleeping.  I would hit on the new 1-unit bet, but lose more than I won because of the uneven units placed on the various lines.  My new method is to equalize the units across all the lines bet.  When I add a new line, I start by betting the same amount on it as I am betting on the other lines.  When it hits, it covers the other lines just as well.

In those instances where we have a hit that doesn't get us to a new high, I re-figure where in the progression I am at and bet accordingly.  Say my high is 548 (I am always starting a session with 480, my stop loss amount).  If, after a win at a higher unit amount, I am at 358, I find that I am down -190 units.  I look at my tracker and see that I have 5 lines to bet on.  I divide my 190 units by 5, getting 38 units per line.  I now look at my progression as detailed below and find that I am greater than level 8, lower than level 9.  I would, therefore, begin betting with 9 units on each of the 5 lines indicated by the tracker.

In this way, I spread out the losses and wins to all lines, allowing quicker recovery and more even money management.  Currently, I am considering +100 as a session win goal, but would be open to other input.  I think that this system can generate +100 in quick order, and have seen it do so numerous times already.

Feedback or suggestions are greatly appreciated!


Level and Cumulative Loss
Level 1   -1
Level 2   -3
Level 3   -6
Level 4  -10
Level 5  -15
Level 6  -21
Level 7  -28
Level 8  -36
Level 9  -45
Level 10 -55
Level 11 -66
Level 12 -78
Level 13 -91
Level 14 -105
Level 15 -120