**VERTICAL 8*

[MaximB]

Eh,have not posted on the forum for a long time.
Doubt someone mentioned it,but how ever.
Came after the pause.

Well,I love JohnLegend's ideas,basicly most of them are based on the same thing - verical calculations and matrix,but however,if you have enough bir BR and right progression - you would appear as a winnger after the session.

Going to try this system at BV,no zero roulette table should work. I have something like 10 euros or so left deposited on my account,will play with those funds using 1 cent chips. Eh,God bless BV for giving me the opportunity to play with such a low bank roll
Will write back later about the results.

[Johnlegend]

RESULTS UPDATE FOR VERTICAL 8 FOR 9/11/2011

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 1000

TOTAL GAMES WON 999

TOTAL GAMES LOST 1

STRIKERATE 999/1

BALANCE 1516 UNITS PLUS

STEP1 WINS 567

STEP2 WINS 274

STEP3 WINS 140

STEP4 WINS 16

STEP5 WINS 3----LOSSES 1

Tremendous consistency after 1000 completed games. This is a high risk method. But theres still a diamond in the rough here regarding the strikrate of hits on step 1 of the progression. I will forge a more accessable method in the future.

[amk]

[Chrisbis]

A Totem Pole of Smileys!
Nice.

[Subreptivus]

Hello, gentlemens!

Doesn't work on [ Auto-wheels (Slingshot-machines)!
Four loses (on fifth leg) in 15 games for real. But fifth leg was never challenged with "fun money" for much more than 50 games (I didn't have ability to record them all) in testing period.
I just wanted to warn you all...

[amk]

I'm having a hard time believing your results Subreptivus. Reasons being, you only have 3 posts, you have a link to a casino and your forum name refers to being false......

[Robeenhuut]

I'm having a hard time believing your results Subreptivus. Reasons being, you only have 3 posts, you have a link to a casino and your forum name refers to being false......

Hello

Number of posts does not reflect much. If someone follows  clear posted rules of a system and reports negative results we should discuss them not discard them.

Regards

[Subreptivus]

I'm having a hard time believing your results Subreptivus. Reasons being, you only have 3 posts, you have a link to a casino and your forum name refers to being false......

Hello, amk!

It's your right indeed, but I could send you, or attach to this thread, my papers with actual and "fun money" results.
I'm RO person 99,99% of the time. So it just wasn't needed to post something useless for other members. I apologize to all for posting actual link it was copy-paste, so I didn't notice... I saw a lot of links across the forum, but never mind it's already removed (I thought it checked by moderator before appearing in thread).
Regarding my nickname, I just used to it, so using it here also, it shouldn't bother members what does it mean cause I'm able to prove every of my message...
And as was mentioned earlier, I just wanted to warn you all, nothing less, nothing more.

[Juiced91]

Hello

Number of posts does not reflect much. If someone follows  clear posted rules of a system and reports negative results we should discuss them not discard them.

Regards

I agree with this. If a he had said he had won(instead of saying he lost) a million euros would you have said the same thing?

[amk]

Hey Robeenhuut and Juiced, how've you been.

Well, I said I had a hard time believing his results. If he had won a million I would have a hard time believing that as well. JohnLehend did actually do a lot of testing for this, some where around 30,000 spins or something to this effect. He never saw anything like this, not to say it can't happen. 26 R/B is also possible and happens but for that to happen in his first few games is really unlucky.  Sub posts that he had 4 losses in 15 games, wierd. He had a link directly to a casino and his forum name refers to being "false". These things just made me go hmmmmmm. JohnLegend posted a 999/1 strikerate this should be scary for any casino. It would not surprise me if a casino posted negative results for a good method. People lose interest etc. Might be that Sub did actually lose those games I just have a hard time believing that.......

[Robeenhuut]

Hey Robeenhuut and Juiced, how've you been.

Well, I said I had a hard time believing his results. If he had won a million I would have a hard time believing that as well. JohnLehend did actually do a lot of testing for this, some where around 30,000 spins or something to this effect. He never saw anything like this, not to say it can't happen. 26 R/B is also possible and happens but for that to happen in his first few games is really unlucky.  Sub posts that he had 4 losses in 15 games, wierd. He had a link directly to a casino and his forum name refers to being "false". These things just made me go hmmmmmm. JohnLegend posted a 999/1 strikerate this should be scary for any casino. It would not surprise me if a casino posted negative results for a good method. People lose interest etc. Might be that Sub did actually lose those games I just have a hard time believing that.......

Hello Amk

I just posted for the sake of arguing  . I agree with you about doubting Subreptivus results. But for a different and simple reason. Nobody in the world would continue to be playing this after losing  2 times only in 15 games and having been down almost 500 units so quickly 
And you know from my older posts that i am not exactly a big fan of this system. 
It is just a common sense.

Regards

[amk]

"Nobody in the world would continue to be playing this after losing  2 times only in 15 games and having been down almost 500 units so quickly"

That's a great observation Robeenhuut. I looked completely over that one. Feels like a Sherlock Holmes episode

[Subreptivus]

2Robeenhuut & amk

Hello, gentlemens!
I've described everything in previous post, but it's still on moderators hold...

Regarding 4 loses in 15 games and your brilliant Sherlock-like minds, I didn't really loses 4 of them cause I covered 0 on high bets. So (as Robeenhuut wrote) it were actually 2 loses. BUT it wasn't in original rules, and if I'd stick to original system described in 1st post there will be 4 loses.
And besides, I were playing with low limit table (to be completely sure in this system) so there were -500 units, but it wasn't to much in equivalent...

[amk]

Well Sub, I think what you saw was as rare as your house being in the path of a total solar eclipse. I think you can now play the method with confidence. I am sure JL has good results at the moment. You can to.

[amk]

Sub, I missed one of your post some how. Welcome to the forum

I think with any method you can walk into weird cases. However if someone reports that they have a 999/1 strikerate the method is good. Regardless of the luck factor. JL also had this strikerate when he started CODE4. Now it is still very good. We also have to remember that even if a method wins 99% of the time 1% will not..........