The closest we can get in beating Roulette

[bikemotorman]

Still no answer, help me out guys, I need to start playing for higher stakes.




                                                                Stuart

[iggiv]

search Bayes' posts with key words "math, statistics"

that was him. if u have problems ask him

[bikemotorman]

Still can't find it, hey Bayes Please Be So Kind To Help With The Above Question.




                                                                     Stuart






Oh I am looking to get a Sidecar for my Motorcycle, do they still use them in Europe?

[iggiv]

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?board=18.0


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[iggiv]

changing the wheel on a run

[mr.ore]

Still no answer, help me out guys, I need to start playing for higher stakes.




                                                                Stuart

Here you go:

on vertical axe is percentage - 0.08 means 8%, so multiply it by 100

on horizontal axe is number of spins to hit

I hope I have it right...

[bikemotorman]

Can somebody decode it for me.


I have no clue, so a Street will sleep eight percent of the time???

[birdhands]

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=661.60  reply #69


everything you need to know.

[bikemotorman]

Yes I looked but cant find out where it is, I am just looking for how often a Street may sleep for say 50 spins, sorry guys I stink, suck, fail and am horrible with math.


                                       
                                                                                              Stuart

[mr.ore]

It is little bad picture, add +1 to the result. 8% of time street will hit immediately in the first spin - chance is 3/37=0.08 =>0.08*100%=8%. Then it will take 2 spins to hit in (1-3/37)*3/37 *100% cases and so on. So it is most probable that street will hit now than in second spin and so on. The graph shows the number of spins and % of hitting, so if you want to know a number of spins for a street to sleep, just found where you stop seeing red line and the number on x is approximately that really "rare" event, which happens of course

[bikemotorman]

Ok so it looks like a street can sleep for 52 spins on average every 3000 spins I think lol.


Guys is that correct?


Or is it 7000 spins??


Oh boy math is not my best subject lol.


Oh and has anyone heard from Lanky???




                                                                       Stuart

[mr.ore]

The extreme would be around 400-500 spins, and by that I mean a real extreme, with -6 z-score.

-3 z-score is for about 100 spins, then that is a "normal" extreme

Just put into calculator this and try to change n to different values to see what it does.

  (0-n*p)/sqrt(n*p*(1-p))
0 is for 0 hits, n is for number of spins, p = 3/37, sqrt is square root

By the way, what do you mean by "sleeping" on average, when do you consider it sleeper?

If sleeper is when it is not hitting with positive expectation, then the result would be probably

q = (1-(1-3/37)^224)-(1-(1-3/37)^11)= 0.39450192 => ~ 39.5% of time it is sleeping, ie. hitting in spin 12 (with loss 1 unit) or on any later spin (with greater loss)


From the formula you can see that I do not suppose a street not to hit in more than 224 spins, that's because if I increase the number, the results does not change in the first six digits after decimal dot. I might be wrong with that formula though...


Results from calculator:

(1-(1-3/37)^223)-(1-(1-3/37)^11) = 0.39450191
(1-(1-3/37)^224)-(1-(1-3/37)^11) = 0.39450192
(1-(1-3/37)^225)-(1-(1-3/37)^11) = 0.39450192
...
(1-(1-3/37)^500)-(1-(1-3/37)^11) = 0.39450192


it cannot be see to number to increse with six decimal points...

[bikemotorman]

I wait for a street that has not appeared in the last 30 spins 99 percent of the time there is only one.


In this case lets say street one, so I play street one with a 23 step progression.


So that is the basis of what I am doing, I also have a stop loss of 500 dollars.


That is why I am trying to find out how often on average a street does not come up for 53 spins.




PROBABLY NOT, WILL IT ALWAYS WIN.
PROBABLY NOT, WILL IT LOSE ALWAYS.                                                                         Stuart

[iggiv]

Biker, i dont think this is a good idea. maybe ocasionally but not on the consistent basis. Cold betting
does not work. Period.

if u wanna improve your chances maybe try betting on the street when it is waking up after long sleep. and still no guarantee of success. But betting on cold consistently -- this is  a way to failure