Forced win progression!

[GLC]

Here's a tweak on an existing bet progression that has some merit to it.


I have read a few systems that use the following bet progression.


1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-etc...


Just keep increasing your bet by 1 unit every spin whether you win or lose until you reach a new high bank.


I have tested this on numerous bet selection methods with average luck.  The problem is that it can fall into a pretty deep hole before climbing back out and the bet sizes can get astronomical.  But, having said that, I've never not pulled out for a win on my tests with any even chance bet selection. 


I even tried a bet selection method in which I tried to pick a loser for each spin and I still ended up winning eventually.  It was an average session.  What does that tell us?


Of course it works because it is based on the idea of betting more when you win than when you lose.


So I've tweaked it this way.  We start off betting 1 unit.  As long as we're winning, we continue to bet 1 unit.  As soon as we lose, we add 1 unit to our bet.  We continue to bet 2 units as long as we lose (yes, I know I said lose.  That's what I meant to say).  As soon as we win, we add 1 unit to our bet size and bet the new amount as long as we continue to win.  As soon as we lose, we add 1 unit to our bet size and stay at that amount until we win etc...


So, anytime we switch between winning and losing or between losing and winning, we increase our bet size.


In the original method we increase our bet by 1 unit every spin.  As you can imagine, this can increase our bets rapidly. 


With my tweak, we still take advantage of winning more when we win than we lost when we lost, but our bet size climbs at a slower pace.


Like all of these methods, as soon as we get a good run of wins in a row or a high ration of wins vs losses section, we will recover and quickly reach a new high.


We can shoot for +1 then reset or we can pick a larger number to shoot for like +10 or +15 etc...


Option:


We can slow the climb substantially by using the following progression:


1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3-3-4-4-4-5-5-5-6-6-6-7-7-7-8-8-8-9-9-9-etc...


In other words we need 3 chops between win vs losses before we add 1 unit to our bet size.


We can do any number of steps at the same level if we want.  The more steps before increasing bet size, the more of a grind it becomes and also the harder it is to recover from a really bad series of spins.


Try this with any e.c. bet selection method.


I'm thinking also that it might work for dozens or even double dozen bets. 


Jointu is already using something like it for a double dozen bet on the Divide and Conquer system and it seems to be working fine for him.


GLC

[Tomla021]

Hi George I tested 123456 a few weeks back,, very scary but like you i found that I couldnt bust it on 50 baccarat shoes,,,, will check this out...Im guessing you also looked at 11223344556677?
best wishes

"No Whining just Winning"

[Jeromin]

Hi George I tested 123456 a few weeks back,, very scary but like you i found that I couldnt bust it on 50 baccarat shoes,,,, will check this out...I'm guessing you also looked at 11223344556677?
best wishes

"No Whining just Winning"

Was it FTL type or some more exotic bet selection?

Jeromin

[GLC]

Hi George I tested 123456 a few weeks back,, very scary but like you i found that I couldnt bust it on 50 baccarat shoes,,,, will check this out...I'm guessing you also looked at 11223344556677?
best wishes

"No Whining just Winning"

Tom,


I haven't tested 11223344etc... but I'm sure it will work also.  It should take into the hole a little less than 123456etc... off-set by small wins as well.


I like the Winning part.  I'm getting my health card so I can safely drive that stretch limo.





GLC

[Tomla021]

jeromin --I tested using that malcop trend catcher that you know.....George the idea is to be driven in the limo not to have it crash!! no crash=no health card needed:)

[mr.ore]

First image from first test, enjoy RB FLTL...

[mr.ore]

4096 RNG spins, failed, I will try to measure max bet though

[mr.ore]

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[mr.ore]

It is a very mellow progression.

[mr.ore]

Hmm, my previous implementation was wrong, I have forgotten to set balance to any value, so previous results are just random. The correct version is this. Never forget that any implementation of any system might be coded wrongly. Hopefuly now it is correct...

[mr.ore]

"Improved" version:

a) we alway increase bet by 10% of it's size or 1 unit, whatever is bigger

b) never bet more than to be in profit +1 compared to maximum bankroll balance reached in past

A few big holes and nice pavement in between...

[GLC]

"Improved" version:

a) we alway increase bet by 10% of it's size or 1 unit, whatever is bigger

b) never bet more than to be in profit +1 compared to maximum bankroll balance reached in past

A few big holes and nice pavement in between...

I guess to have a can't lose bet method all we need is Fort Knox's gold.  Or a reasonable stop-loss and hope we don't hit the stop-loss so many times that we can't stay ahead of it with our wins.


Doesn't look any better than other progressions.


Thanks for the reality check my friend.


GLC

[mr.ore]

There is a need to mix in positive progression in some way. I will look into it in the evenening. Today I will go to work even if this is a state holiday in our country to get some extra money 

[Tomla021]

thanks mr ore,
was the above with 123456 or the new 111, 222,333 etc?








"No Whining just Winning"

[GLC]

I've been thinking about this system of betting and just wanted to mention the equivalent bets for other bet odds.  I know the easy one, but after that it gets a little confusing for us laymen.


If we take 1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-5-5-6-6-7-7-etc... as a good line for even chance bets, that gives us 1:1 payoff = 2 steps.


If we convert this to dozens/columns we get 2:1 payoff = 2X2 = 4.  therefore 1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-4-4-4-4-5-5-5-5-etc...
 
For double dozens which is 1:2 payoff = 1/2X2 = 1.  1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-etc...


5:1 = 5X2 = 10.  1111111111222222222233333333334444444444


8:1 = 8X2 = 16


11:1 = 11X2 = 22


17:1 = 17X2 = 34


35:1 = 35X2 = 70


So we can adjust the formula anyway we want.


What if we wanted 12345678etc... to be the bet for 1:1


Question for the math guys.  Would double dozen be 1-3-5-7-9 etc... or 1 - 1.5 - 2- 2.5 - 3 - 3.5 - 4  etc...?


What would be the line for 5 double street bets?


Thanks,


GLC