Stop at 6

Colbster · Oct 31, 06:32 PM 2011

What I meant was that I had 6-8 numbers covered for a little while at level 2 before a win. After the win, I accumulated about 5 numbers to cover for level 3. Same with 4 and 5. The same several were all hot at the same time, crawling up the charts with enough uniformity to give me some drawdowns along the way. As I mentioned, though, it did recover in the end for a decent win.

MrJ · Oct 31, 08:01 PM 2011

Quote from: Colbster on Oct 31, 06:32 PM 2011
What I meant was that I had 6-8 numbers covered for a little while at level 2 before a win. After the win, I accumulated about 5 numbers to cover for level 3. Same with 4 and 5. The same several were all hot at the same time, crawling up the charts with enough uniformity to give me some drawdowns along the way. As I mentioned, though, it did recover in the end for a decent win.

Ok....but as each NEW level started, you were only betting one number (at first) and NOT betting numbers from the lower levels at the same time, correct?

Ken

Colbster · Oct 31, 08:03 PM 2011

Correct: After I had gotten my first win of the Level 2 numbers, I went to just betting on that one number for Level 3. However, several reached Level 3 before I could get to Level 4 and so on.

MrJ · Oct 31, 08:22 PM 2011

If anyone is interested, some other points were brought up over at VLS1 >> link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=19379.msg141218;topicseen#msg141218

woods101 · Oct 31, 08:36 PM 2011

Hi Ken,

Just to add to Colbsters comments have been playing around with similiar ideas recently and you can get a lot of numbers to bet on at certain stages depending on deviation. You could for example have only 4 numbers at stage 1 or 2 to bet on and then 7 or 8 at stage 4 or 5 that stall for a while as other numbers catch up and usurp the original ones you were betting on causing a bit of a drawdown. I think the Albalah stance of waiting out until there are less numbers to bet on, ie let the next stage begin before rebetting can help avoid losses when this is happening.

Woods

birdhands · Oct 31, 09:09 PM 2011

"I think the Albalah stance of waiting out until there are less numbers to bet on, ie let the next stage begin before rebetting can help avoid losses when this is happening."

How is this done? What if you miss a win while waiting?

woods101 · Nov 01, 03:53 AM 2011

If you're playing a lot of numbers you may still be down, even if you catch that win. Just wait for the next stage, take a break, etc.

Colbster · Nov 01, 11:12 AM 2011

Ditto that, Woods. I just got my win at level 5 and ended up losing 50 units. I was up after my wins at each of the preceding levels, but had a long wait before getting my hit at level 5. I had 4 numbers with 4 units each, as I was using the increase-by-1 progression after each new level. That ate up my earlier profits very quickly, so I ended down. Walk away, reset.

MrJ · Nov 01, 02:34 PM 2011

There is another tweak some MIGHT be interested in. Put a cap on the levels. Meaning, (only as an example) we only take the FIRST 6 numbers with two hits on it, maybe only 5 numbers max with three hits on it etc.
Good point, bad point........we would LIMIT how many numbers bet but its possible a number MIGHT of hit had we included them all.

Ken

birdhands · Nov 01, 02:35 PM 2011

There are so many ways we can go with this, each with their own promises and disappointments. We can virtual bet for X number of spins, hoping to let empty bets accumulate with no risk of capital, and then ideally begin betting for real just before our win shows itself; or we can start a new game whenever a certain percentage of our profit has been eaten away. So Colbster, in your example you were up X units before beginning level 5 betting. You could have walked away as soon as you hit 1/2X. Or you could have virtual bet 5 spins and ended up in the plus. Of course with more conservative play comes missed opportunities...
As far as progressions go, we can play with a positive one, increasing bets relative to the profit accomplished at the preceding level, or do it GLC-style: going into recovery mode on a session by session basis. So if we end up at a loss flat betting then we just begin the next game with a higher unit value.
Just some ideas...

Sam

MrJ · Nov 01, 02:56 PM 2011

I dont do progressions for this but I am up nicely so far (knock on wood). You could always have a rule of a stop loss in case things get choppy?

Ken

birdhands · Nov 01, 03:00 PM 2011

I was referring to the up one unit per level tweak as a progression.

MrJ · Nov 01, 03:23 PM 2011

Ok, got it sir.

Ken

birdhands · Nov 01, 07:05 PM 2011

Another consideration (for RNG players only):

I can put BV on autospin and watch the marquis for ideal entry conditions, but what are they exactly? 21 spins without a repeat? 21 spins with 12 doubles but no triples? 21 spins with 3 triples? (The marquis holds 21 numbers). Are we to bet on a sleeping phenomenon or a hot phenomenon? What do you guys think?

woods101 · Nov 02, 03:51 AM 2011

You could also flip this at the end. How many spins before you hit the 6 repeat stage? 80-90?
Log the next numbers to come out till you get to 108 spins then play all numbers with 1 hit or less. Again there are variations you can play with this but just flat betting should get you an extra few chips.

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