Kimo Li Matrix Tracker (by Kattila) REVISED......

[bossdarling]

I think one of the most important key is the 36 spin cycle, as Kimo Li pointed. I always reset after 36 spin, except when finishing progressions.

Below is a sample of 36 spin cycle betting.

[Bayes]

In my opinion that's a method that gets lot of attention because of very complex rules so everybody assumes automatically that it has merit.

Couldn't agree more!

Some time ago I asked Kimo (on his forum) what is the rationale behind his method - some kind of dealer signature or what?

I never got a reply, even though it seemed like a pretty straightforward question to me.

He's selling several spreadsheets at $50 a pop, but there are no instructions as to how to use them.

[TwoCatSam]

"He's selling several spreadsheets at $50 a pop, but there are no instructions as to how to use them."

Most gratifying to hear!

Sam
   

[bossdarling]

Completely agree.. I didn't know how to use the matrix. Tried a lot of applications long time ago, totally fail. Didn't see any good of the groupings.

Until Kattila gave an example, thanks to cristal2000. So glad don't have to buy the $50 spreadsheets for nothing 

I found Kattila's method is interesting with a little tweak, and intent to test it. I'll update whether the result is good or just another failure.

[bossdarling]

Without intention to promote any methods other than testing Kattila's idea, here are the subsequent results (next to previous 1000) of 10 cycle spins:

Total spin: 380
Profit: +2,148u
Average: +5.65u/spin
BR: 648u
Strike rate: 87/0

Cheers,
-bd

[TwoCatSam]

So, is Katilla now /compa?  Or is Katilla just referring us to /compa's work?

Again, not wanting to set off a polemic, but this is "warmed-over Gamlet" as far as I'm concerned.  But Gamlet created sectors on the fly.  They were never rigid.  Maybe rigid is better.

Certainly some beautiful figures!!

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

bd

Thanks for all this work. 

Sam

[Kattila]

So, is Katilla now /compa?  Or is Katilla just referring us to /compa's work?

Again, not wanting to set off a polemic, but this is "warmed-over Gamlet" as far as I'm concerned.  But Gamlet created sectors on the fly.  They were never rigid.  Maybe rigid is better.

Certainly some beautiful figures!!

Sam

I am Kattila and not Compa my friend (and also not Gamlet.....)
Compa posted something about movements on GP, and this is my system and
also now is BDs system (version).

cheers

[Robeenhuut]

Without intention to promote any methods other than testing Kattila's idea, here are the subsequent results (next to previous 1000) of 10 cycle spins:

Total spin: 380
Profit: +2,148u
Average: +5.65u/spin
BR: 648u
Strike rate: 87/0

Cheers,
-bd

Did you test it on actuals?

[bossdarling]

You're welcome Sam, and hi Kattila.. Thanks to all forum members for sharing ideas of any doable method. I learn a lot from all of you.

RH, I'm doing test with my live spin database to study the risks. If it succeed in 2000 spins, I'll test on actuals.

My subsequent 10 cycle spin test is not so good. Got busted 3x, though the cummulative is still positive, avg 1.38u/spin.

Total spin: 763 (excl. previous 1000)
Profit: 1,056u
Average: +1.38u/spin
BR 1,056 for each loss
Strike rate: 160/3

Any idea to minimize risk? Is it a go or no go?

During this test (see attchmt), 1 loss is in the last cycle, 2 losses in the 1st cycle. Is it relevant? For instance, waiting for 1 virtual win before play, or only seek 5 wins in a cycle, etc? The test is purely mechanical. Is there any pattern/trigger to avoid?

Any advice would be highly appreciated.

Cheers,
-bd

[Kimo Li]

Interesting.

In 2005, I introduced an innovative concept.  For those who attempted to understand, gained major insight to the game of roulette.  Over the years I gave clues as to how the Global Pie Method works, with polarized reviews.  Nonetheless, it has open many minds and ironically closed many as well.

Here's the good news.  From my teachings many have opened their minds to create and discover ways to beat roulette.  Matrix was never used to describe roulette strategies until I introduced the idea.  Now we have many experts with many strategies.  How great is that? Here's the bad news, most people will never understand it.

A carpenter, auto mechanic, salesperson, IT tech, accountant, CEO, baker, taxi driver, bartender, the list is endless, all possess certain skills. Their worth is measured in the exchange of values.

If you have something of value that I am interested in, I will make an offer to buy or trade.  I will never ask for anything for free.  You will never understand the worth of someone's soul until you have walked in their shoes.  When you can understand that, you will understand your own worth.

I tried giving things for free. It did no good to anyone because there was no exchange of values.

Kimo Li

[Kattila]

Hi  Bossdarling,
why don t you try the original system (see my excel file) ?
You can attack 6 numbers ( one hot GP or S) with that extended fibo by Winkel(better from 0,10 c),  trigger two or three hits of the same group in the last 6 spins (can switch from
GP to S and also from S to GP ,all depends if there is trigger on not).

Also you can attack both hot groups (GP and S) but with separate progression (same extended fibo ) one for 6 numbers and one for 5 numbers , this because will have diffrent triggers on GP and different triggers on S. I don t know why you start to bet at the same
time on GP and S, see my example , it s different....

I said one progression on 6 numbers and one on 5 numbers , but you can include the 0
and this way have 6 and 6 numbers . Important is bet only 6 times same group then
go to another new group(new trigger ), so next level of progression on next new hot group
for the next 6 spins ...so on...

cheers

[Bayes]

Kimo,

Why only "give clues"? In this forum we have a policy to regard with suspicion anyone who gives hints and clues. Why? because it's BS. Why not just explicitly state the rules of the system, or at least, if the method is subjective, be honest enough to say so.

And I think I'm right in saying that in neither of your books do you discuss the matrix concept, so you can hardly claim credit for some kind of revolution or breakthrough. Roulette system aficionados have been using similar methods since the game was invented; a matrix is just a convenient and efficient way of arranging data, there's nothing particularly innovative about it.

It's not my intention to belittle your work. Your way of identifying ball-movements is innovative, and of course, if anyone finds value in your books and spreadsheets then they are free to buy them, just as you have every right to charge for your time and effort. All I'm saying is that if you feel your products and ideas offer something truly unique and valuable, why not tell us exactly what it is? why all the evasion?

[Robeenhuut]

Kimo,

Why only "give clues"? In this forum we have a policy to regard with suspicion anyone who gives hints and clues. Why? because it's BS. Why not just explicitly state the rules of the system, or at least, if the method is subjective, be honest enough to say so.

And I think I'm right in saying that in neither of your books do you discuss the matrix concept, so you can hardly claim credit for some kind of revolution or breakthrough. Roulette system aficionados have been using similar methods since the game was invented; a matrix is just a convenient and efficient way of arranging data, there's nothing particularly innovative about it.

It's not my intention to belittle your work. Your way of identifying ball-movements is innovative, and of course, if anyone finds value in your books and spreadsheets then they are free to buy them, just as you have every right to charge for your time and effort. All I'm saying is that if you feel your products and ideas offer something truly unique and valuable, why not tell us exactly what it is? why all the evasion?

I guess everybody knows answer to last question 

"The Eclipse is designed to track specific numbers that are due to come in. More importantly, when a Global Pie merges with a Global Star the exact number is revealed" from a preface to "The Roulette Formula"  book by Mr Kimo Li. 

Did anybody except the author see that merger and was able to predict the exact number?

[bossdarling]

Thanks, Kattila. Yes I firstly did the test exactly as your instruction in excel. Including wait for virtual win if 1x or 2x L, etc. Your progression is also very exciting. 

But after hundreds of spin test, I always loss. Didn't pass 500 spins. Not because your method is wrong. Perhaps I missed important trigger, or didn't read it right. I attached a sample of it below.

Therefore I tweaked it to 12 numbers to grab larger possibilities. It works quite well, but the risk is still scary.

I think the most important key is to dig more on the trigger. Perhaps there are more do's & dont's. If any, your separate 6 number betting is more appealing.

Cheers,
-bd