Double tracking system

[intrinseco]

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Hi everybody my name is Manuel and I am new in this forum. I apologise for my English, i am improving it!.
I don't know if one of you have tried something like I am doing in this system. Basically I made a new layout of the table considering the order that every number has on the wheel. (see imagine). So in this system we need to track each spin twice, one in the new layout and one in the normal one.I have assigned the  letters A, B, C for the dozen section, I'll give u an Example:
Spins: 3, 5, 6, 34, 17, 29, 33, 15

spin 1: number 3, we know that 3 is in the first dozen so we track as a A, then looking to the new layout we see that 3 is also in 3th dozen so we track as a C
The result track for the first spin will be AC

spin 2:number 5 is  AB
spin 3: AA number 6 is in the first dozen on both layout so we track as AA

we do this until we track 8 consecutive spins. If a zero comes out, we just ignore it

So at this moment we start to bet as we can see in the imagine, if after the spin number 8 the combination AB hasn't showed yet then we bet the numbers that together will compose AB section, which are: 13, 21, 15, 17.....(see imagine).
If in the previous 8 spins the AB has already showed, we track that spin and check the next step on the imagine(spin 9): we are checking for the combination AC, and we do the same , if AC hasn't showed yet we bet on that numbers:24, 27, 32.....if the AC is already showed, we go to the next steep:looking for  BC (spin 10)

I know it can be a little be confused to understand at the beginning  but is really easy.

Some times after 8 spins we see all the combination, so we need to start to track again.

The bet has to be progressive until 12 steps progression.

So far I have played 100 session and just lost 4 times.

so I would like to know what do you think? I hope my explanation was good enough for understand this system

thanks and happy new year for everyone

[VLS]

Welcome to the Forum Manuel.


Interesting thing you have there. Thanks for posting it for us! 


It's beautiful how you've conciliated the wheel and the felt. Kudos for that.


4 out of 100 sounds a very sweet ratio! Very sweet indeed.


...as long as a method is profitable: game on!


Thanks again.
Vic

[GLC]

Intrinseco,

I agree with Victor.  Very ingenius idea.  I like it!

I have some questions starting with, how much did you win in the 96 wins vs how much did you lose on the 4 losses?

That's more important that the number of games won vs lost.  Here's why.

Say that I am playing a 15 step martingale on the Red/Black even chance.  I call a win +10 units.  I win 999 times in 1,000 games.  That leaves my in the hole -6,394 units.  Not so good as far as units won vs lost, even though it sounds good when I say that I won 999 games and lost only 1. 

This is no criticism, just seeking more information.

Also, are you flat betting? 
Are you using a progression? 
Can you tell us the maximum lost bets in a row you've had? 
How many wins in a row have you had? 
What's your largest drawdown?

All these are muy importante, amigo.  Some more than others.

By the way, welcome aboard and thanks for posting.  Waiting for more info with bated breath.

GLC

[Blood Angel]

Hello,
Welcome to the forum  .. very interesting.. thank you for posting.

[harrican]

Hi,


After 8 spins, there are bound to be some repeat combos right? Or do you wait until one combo is missing? Since there is a total of 9 combos.


I got lost on the 2nd part where you say


"If in the previous 8 spins the AB has already showed, we track that spin and check the next step on the imagine(spin 9): we are checking for the combination AC, and we do the same , if AC hasn't showed yet we bet on that numbers:24, 27, 32.....if the AC is already showed, we go to the next steep:looking for  BC (spin 10)"


Anyways, interesting concept. Could you perhaps post an example or two ?

[intrinseco]

Hi guys, thanks for your opinion

GLC: I am using a  12 step progression, unfortunately i haven't kept a record of all my session. But I remember my minimum winning was 20 unit and the highest was 44.  3 of my 4 lost session were betting on AA combination, that means that the numbers 2,4 and 6 didn't show up for more than 12 consecutive spins. In that case I lost 3+3+3+3+3+3+6+6+6+9+9+12=66 units. The other one I lost, was much more because I was betting for the AB combination which has 9 numbers. But in overall I am positive. But I know that 4 lost in 100 session doesn't mean nothing, because may be the system fail 120 times every 1000 session and  I just was lucky with the first 100. I will track all my session from today so I will able to tell you how much exactly the profit is and how bigger are the negative session.

About the winning in a row, I recorded my last 10 session all wining , I had session wining from the first spin to 9 spins, never more than 9 spins in the last 10 sessions.

I forgot to tell you I am testing this system on Roulette extreme, is somebody in this forum  able to do some program code  that can help to test this system? I am trying to do some excel file to help with the double tracking

intrinseco

[intrinseco]

Hi Harrican: I try to explain again , after 8 spins doesn't matter how many combination hasn't showed , we will bet for the AB  combination, because is the biggest one, whit nine numbers so is the one with more chance to show up, for example:

spin 1: 2 AA
spin 2 34 AC
spin 3: 7 AC
spin4 :3 AC
spin 5: 33 BC
spin 6: 30 BC
spin 7: 2 AA
spin 8: 24 BB
--------------------------at this point we check for AB combination, if AB is not in our last 8 spin we will bet for next 12  spins the numbers in AB Group, an this one will be one session . If AB is in our last 8 spins we go for the next group, according with the image that I posted, that will be AC. And we do the same, if AC is in the last 9 spins we go for the next group combination if it is not we bet those numbers for 12 spins

I hope I have explained it better, anyway I'll try to post an a complete session next week.

and remember this is only an idea, will be very nice if somebody modified something to make it better. Maybe will be safer wait 10 spins instead of 10.....or use flat betting instead of progressive, or mix this system with another one !!

[GLC]

Rossco pointed out to me that you did say you were using a progression.  That pretty much makes that question mute.  Although, with all the different numbers in each bet, what the progression is will be interesting.


GLC

[soggett]

This looks very interesting...
If those numbers keep that way this can be a winner 

By the way, your missing the number 19 in your picture under AB, right?

[intrinseco]

Yes , 19 is in The ab group , thanks soggett, And also i am thinking to add The zero into the AA group, I have to make some tests

[soggett]

Yes , 19 is in The ab group , thanks soggett, And also i am thinking to add The zero into the AA group, I have to make some tests

No problem 
So have you done any more test with or without zero? How were the results?
I have done some test of my own and it looks ok, it does lose occasionally but i think overall it will be in profit

[intrinseco]

Thanks soggett for helping with the tests. This is the progression table I am using.

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I am still testing with out the zero. I am speaking with a person who maybe is able to make a code for roulette xtreme, so we can test it faster and with a lot of spins.

I will upload some test I have done with all results but I think I will do it this sunday

[soggett]

That would be very nice, then we can test like 100 000 spins in just minutes time
Looking forward to seeing your results

[intrinseco]

Hi everybody, I found someone who made the script for this system. His name is Andrea and he is the webmaster of the italian roullette website (link:://:.laroulette.it/). Just one change has been made to the original system wich is:

the sequence to check is this:
last 8 spin whe check for group AB
>> 9 --> AC
>> 10--> BC
>> 11 --> CC
>> 12 --> BB
>> 13 --> AA



thats all, I made some test and like all systems in the long term tends to fail but I also have some short sessions (100 spins ) with big proffit.
The interesting of this script is that it is very easy to modify, I mean we can easily change the numbers of each group and the progressions, so I think is very usefull for other systems who works with group of numbers

[marivo]

Hi everybody, I found someone who made the script for this system.

Thank you!