The 1-3-2-4 Ladder System

[The_Force]

This is a system I developed many years ago and still use today as one of my main money earners.    Very simple to learn and easy to play.    No big risks or massive banks needed.   

The system:

In this system, you will bet on an EC - up to you which one.    I usually bet on Red, but the choice is yours.   

You will bet on your chosen EC using the 1-3-2-4 progression.    You start by betting one unit.   

If you win, you move to 3 units.   

If you win, move to 2 units.   

If you win, move to 4 units.   

If at any stage of the progression you lose, you ALWAYS return to the first stage of the progression i.   e.    1 unit in this case.   

Now, say you play and you make it to 4 units and win.    You have completed a cycle.    Now, you move to step two in the ladder.   

2 - 6 - 4 - 8

You repeat the process - your aim being to make it to make it through the cycle.   

Now say you are at step two of the ladder and you lose.    You start again from 2 units.   

At each step of the ladder, you have 3 attempts to complete a cycle.    If you try three times and you don't manage to complete a cycle, you must drop back down one step.    So if you are at step 2 (betting 2-6-4-8) and you lose three times, you return to 1-3-2-4.    If you win on step 2 of the ladder, you move to step 3 (3-9-6-12) and keep going until you reach your profit target (always set yourself a profit target and stick to it).   

You stop playing when you reach your profit target or you are at step 1 of the ladder and lose three times.    When this happens, you accept the loss.   Of course, if you are at step 1 and you lose 3 times, you can keep playing at level 1 until you hit your stop loss (always have a stop loss).

[VLS]

Thanks for sharing with us TF.

one of my main money earners.

Sweet!

Congrats!

[Twisteruk]

Thanks for sharin dude !

Can you say why you go down to 2 units on step 3 of the ladder ?

Also do you bet one after another, ie your looking for FOUR Reds in a row ?

Cheers  

[The_Force]

Step 1 = 1-3-2-4
Step 2 = 2-6-4-8
Step 3 = 3-9-6-12
Step 4 = 4-12-8-16

I think you get the idea.  Normally, you should hit your profit target before you have to go further than step 4.  That acts as some kind of indication of what kind of profit target you have set and if it's realistic.  This is one of those slow earners, but with small risk.

You are correct - you are looking for runs of your EC.  So 4 in a row completes a cycle.  Then you move on up the ladder.  What you'll find is that you will win and lose and kind of hover around awhile not making any head way.  The beauty of this system is that when the opposite EC is hitting, you will not lose huge amounts, but when you EC starts to hit, that's when you can hit your target.  Essentially, you are waiting for a run of your EC to trend, then you capitilise on it. 

[Twisteruk]

Ok thanks for that  

But can you explain why you drop down to 2 units on step 3 of the 1st ladder ? I jw

Will give it a go with some Funn Chipsss   !

Just one other question, what your stop loss. Say for example Black Streaks for 15-20 spins ?

[The_Force]

Just to clarify, the 1-3-2-4 progression is nothing new.  If you do a google search, you will find many pages on it.  It's always been known as the most steady, low risk progression.

The ladder element is what I added.  It was to maximise profits on the streaks, without hurting you too bad when it's going against you.

Btw, if you have access to a no zero table, this system really shines. 

[buffalowizard]

Hi Twister,

As you can see, on each of the stages, the progression goes down on the third step. This is what makes it lower risk and a more steady earner.
Remember you are not going up on a loss, so instead of greatly inflated 'up as you win' strategies such as martingale, you will not lose all your winnings if you encounter a single loss.

A quick scenario: martingale up as you win 1,2,4  If you lose on third level, you are -1
                           Using this strategy 1,3,2 if you lose on third level then you are +2

Hope this helps

[Hermes]

It's called regression progression used by John Patrick at BJ and craps. It is a good one.
Hermes

[Twisteruk]

Ah thanx Guys  Appreciate the Info !

[Anima-t3d]

I tried the 1-3-2-4 system (without the ladder) on about 2 million no zero spins database, but it was about pretty much break even. Perhaps the ladder part makes it actually worth it.

[Jordan]

Thank you for the system.
This is the spirit that I like in a Roulette forum...

[Nathan Detroit]

The  FIRST bet should  always be higher than the  seond bet.  John Patrick`s  up and pull and regression method :

2-1-2-3-3-5-1 .  If your bet selection is  so good  just go for  IT with 2  units  right at the beginning .

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[GLC]

The  FIRST bet should  always be higher than the  seond bet.  John Patrick`s  up and pull and regression method :

2-1-2-3-3-5-1 .  If your bet selection is  so good  just go for  IT with 2  units  right at the beginning .

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

ND,


Maybe with a different bet selection your progression would be excellent.  The Force isn't using a bet selection that may beat the odds.  This one obviously doesn't.  I guess he's saying that the betting stages makes this a long term winner, at least for him.  It'll be interesting if it does because so far I haven't seen a betting system that could turn betting on a single e.c. into a winner.  We'll see what happens.

LOL,  George

[The_Force]

I tried the 1-3-2-4 system (without the ladder) on about 2 million no zero spins database, but it was about pretty much break even.  Perhaps the ladder part makes it actually worth it.  :thumbsup:

Yeah, that's pretty interesting because I found the same to be true.  Could you tell me how you managed to test the 1-3-2-4 progression on 2 million spins? I'm guessing you didn't do it manually (as that would probably take forever).

Could you use the same method to test the 1-3-2-4 Ladder system? I have had success with it for many years, but like any system, I could just be lucky.  Testing it over 2 million spins would be conclusive, in my opinion. 

[sekuritati]

interesting method.   I like it.   I am all about grinding systems and I am happy that you are such a player too

Got few questions
1.  how much is the proper session bankroll that you use?
2.  what is your profit target?
3.  what is your stop-loss?

any more advice you could give us and share more experience with this method as I am seriously considering making it one of my main players