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[denzie]

I think this is the summation of all roulette systems.  They're all based on the same odds so if you play long enough.....


Some move at a fast pace and others at a slower pace, but eventually they confirm the above statement.


Here's how every system works.  If you flat bet, you will move up and down with a gradual drift downwards.


If you use a progression with no stop loss, you will win a ton of small wins but eventually you will hit the table limits and have to give it back.


If you use a progression with a large stop loss you will mirror the last statement except that you will give it back at your stop loss which you will eventually hit often enough to wipe out your winnings.


If you use a short progression you will mirror the last statement except that your stop loss will be reached much quicker and more often but with the same results of giving all winnings back.


Etc...


No matter how complicated you make your system it makes no difference.  It's just a matter of time.


The reality is that not only will you give all your winnings back, but most will give more than you won back.


Some will be lucky and always be a winner.  Most will win and lose but gradually lose more and more.  A few will be unlucky and lose from the beginning.


Maybe there's no reason for the 2,000th post.


I have gone to the dark side.


Peace to all and enjoy the friendships.  In the end, that may be all you have left.


GLC

That about sums it up.
Couldn't resist reading the thread with a title like that. But GLC nailed it . This should be shown next to the warning stuff. Pure gold.


This being said. .... how many % posted threads on all the forums lose eventually? 

[falkor2k15]

You should take a look at Priyanka's teachings though... she not only limits the combinations that roulette can throw at us, but she creates a biased game, eradicating variance. I'm sure that's a first in history - yet I am the only one testing it at the moment it seems.

[Steve]

GLC ypu basically said you need to increase accuracy of predictions. Not sure where Ive heard that before... You might be onto something.

[Steve]

I have gone to the dark side.

.. or maybe you just want the cookies

[denzie]

GLC ypu basically said you need to increase accuracy of predictions. Not sure where Ive heard that before... You might be onto something.

Well I came to that conclusion too. Well at least I've found that out fast enough so I not need to play ec's or 1e and 3e doz crap after 20 years. You was right all along. So does recruit. But he is a douchebag.


Did you read TG's post on Gamblers Forum ? How he talk about overcome the small HE ? Still no idea what to think about that. It's called. ... is roulette really random

[nottophammer]

Whats the one thing you need to KNOW
THE DISTRIBUTION OF NON-HITS
Study that and you'll have a chance

[Steve]

You will get the same distribution of non hits with either rng or real spins. But you can only beat real spins, and it's not with statistics.  You cannot beat roulette with statistics.

Knowing the number of pockets and basic average amount of occurrences tells you nothing useful about the next spin. Nothing that changes the odds. Any proper testing proves it.

[Turner]

You will get the same distribution of non hits with either rng or real spins. But you can only beat real spins, and it's not with statistics.  You cannot beat roulette with statistics.

Knowing the number of pockets and basic average amount of occurrences tells you nothing useful about the next spin. Nothing that changes the odds. Any proper testing proves it.

So....of course you can decline to answer, but does TG have a winning maths method that has an edge, not involving AP.

[Steve]

AP just means "strategies that work". It doesn't necessarily mean vb etc. Math is used in AP, but not in a way like RRRR is rare so B is due next.

I know nothing about Turbos method so can't comment.  Where can I learn more?

[Turner]

Where can I learn more?

Well his statement on his profile...maths beats a maths game....for starters
Playing his personal numbers not past
Betting a set amount and adding to them as they win ....described as a mild positive progression...and taking off what isnt hitting each 37 cycle over a few cycles of 37
Law of the third really (my words)
But he calls it betting on numbers that hit above average and removing numbers that dont.
An example would be to play all 12 of a doz.and add as they win and at 37...take 1 chip off all 12.
Same for next cycle.

[nottophammer]

You will get the same distribution of non hits with either rng or real spins. But you can only beat real spins,

Look how many don´t understand that virgin crossing of 19vs18, or how you get there

[Steve]

It isnt enough information to go on. Below are comments in blue:

Well his statement on his profile...maths beats a maths game.

Math is used everywhere, but needs to be used in the right way to increase accuracy of predictions. Without knowing HOW he uses maths, I couldnt know if his approaches are valid.

Playing his personal numbers not past

Maybe he uses a valid bet selection method but only bets when predictions are his personal numbers. That would still be valid.

Betting a set amount and adding to them as they win and taking off what isnt hitting each 37 cycle over a few cycles of 37

Money management helps only when the bet selection produces an edge (better than random accuracy)

Law of the third really (my words)

This law is no different to saying "the more spins there are, the more even the distribution". It doesnt at all help to win roulette, because you have no idea what numbers will spin next (no idea with any increase in accuracy.)


But he calls it betting on numbers that hit above average and removing numbers that dont.

That approach doesn't work. Each number has its own independent odds. Its the same approach as thinking something is "due". If you consider the bets made on just ONE number, the illusion fades.

I'm only judging based on what you have said. If you have anything he or anyone has said, I explain whether or not its valid theory, and why.

Also I'm aware some people think I have some hidden agenda to deceptively censor the holy grail. It is just a dumb thing to say. I'll make this very clear:

If anyone posts something that works, I will say it works. And if its better than that I have, I will start using it myself. There is no agenda to censor anything here. The only moderation done is explained in the forum rules. I do not care if anyone says something opposing AP. All Im saying with beating roulette is you need to change the odds. You cant do that with statistics, at least in the way most people try.

Some people that were banned in the past are claiming BS that i banned them because they had a winning system. You'd have to really be dim to think that. If someone tries selling a system outside the sames area, or they try to lure people to PM where they cant be criticized by experienced members, then they will probably be banned. Unless they broke other rules that apply to everyone, those are the only circumstances where a "seller" would be banned. If anyone wants to test that theory, go ahead and sell something in the matter permitted.

[Steve]

Look how many don´t understand that virgin crossing of 19vs18, or how you get there

Please explain it to me then.

[Proofreaders2000]

I tried this system a while back.  It's not consistent lost money.  :q  :q

[Turner]

Also I'm aware some people think I have some hidden agenda to deceptively censor the holy grail.

Lol....I was asked in pm if if I was hired by you to  block HG.
"Would you like to mod the forum...you seem fair and are here a lot"
That was my secret task, should I wish to take it
Thats it lol.
Proper CIA/MI5 stuff this.
BTW....I am getting flashes of adverts on android phone as I change pages