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[ludo8400]

@ every body


Bring your spin in and look  if you have a 5  between K and N position 38 Than you can start the game.

other wait to position B76.
Good luck

Ludo8400

[ludo8400]

MAKE THE GAME MORE CONFIDENT  AND TEST RANDOM
LOOK AT POSITION 42 Y, Z, AA, AB  after 37 SPINS
                                  43                      after 74 SPINS
                                  44                      after 111 SPINS
EXCEL 2007OPEN EXCEL and push on your DELETE button;
each push  you have new results in POSITION 42,43 and 44
ludo8400

[IronSteel]

Thank you for your analysis Ludo, which im sure will be of use for other community members.

I'm also glad to know that you're getting positive results with my system in the online roulettes (although I designed it for real live wheels).

I hope more members share their experiencies playing my system and I hope they have positive results as well.

I'll be always around to answer any question or doubt about my system.

Best of luck to everyone

[marivo]

@ every body


Bring your spin in and look  if you have a 5  between K and N position 38 Than you can start the game.

other wait to position B76.
Good luck

Ludo8400

MAKE THE GAME MORE CONFIDENT  AND TEST RANDOM
LOOK AT POSITION 42 Y, Z, AA, AB  after 37 SPINS
                                  43                      after 74 SPINS
                                  44                      after 111 SPINS
EXCEL 2007OPEN EXCEL and push on your DELETE button;
each push  you have new results in POSITION 42,43 and 44
ludo8400

I am lost. Can you explain this a little bit more? Thx.

[Robeenhuut]

Hello Ironsteel

What is the longest number of spins you waited for first hit?

Regards

[up338]

To answer Robeenhuut :
Correct me if i'm wrong, it should be after the #74 spin. 

[shazwad]

Hi,

Please could you clarify when you say you 'play the progression until my balance is positive again,'
do you play your session using the same streets you selected from your 37 spins until you reach your 20 chips target?

So you are betting on the same streets for your target, not starting again and recording another 37 spins?  Hope this makes sense?

Also, in your 6 months of playing, what is the highest amount of progressions you have gone to?

[nayan007]

This is quite interesting. betting 37 spins could be good

[mogul397]

I have not fully digested this yet, but I would wonder why you would
not actually have a running tally of number groups?

Then you would not have to wait a full 37 spins for another test
for betting numbers....

[HP]

Hi all,

I am new to this forum. Since 1998 I'm looking for the safest (=best) strategy for Roulette. As a non-gambler, I am looking for a no-risk system. I've tested 100's of systems, and, to be honest, I learned that all systems fail in the long run. I also learned that betting on dozens and double dozens are a waste of time, ok for short run, but fatal for long run. Always. Even the 'safest' systems failed.
For me, a system is foolproof if it reach 1000 units, using a betting unit of 1. I am looking twelve years for such a system, sometimes I reach 600-700 but there is ALWAYS the well-known 'killer'.

A week ago I was reading some some topics in this very nice forum. One title got my attention: 'Your Roulette System Search is Over'. I thought: just another 13-in-a-dozen system. But I tried it online, you never know.
After a few hours of testing, I was surprised. No losses. Hm...ok, huge drawdowns, but I recovered every time. But I expected the famous killing session soon, like a always do.

The strange thing is, it's seven days ago, and I am still 'alive'. Better: I am virtually past 1000 units!!!! That's amazing! The first time in twelve years, unbelievable. What is happening??
Is this strategy THE one? It looks like it is, but I am very careful. To be safer, without making huge losses, I adjusted the system as follows:

stop-loss = 200 units from the start.
Stop betting at + 100 units.
Continue betting if recovery is not less than 20 units and go back to 1-1-1 if it recovers within the range of 20 units. For example: you have + 70 units. The next 8 bets are losing ones. The 9th is a winner and it takes you to 52 (=within the range of 20). So next bet 1-1-1. If more than 20, continue to bet until you reach the stop-loss limit or reach the 20-range.

That's just a personal touch. Maybe it needs more or different fine-tuning, but anyway, this system feels comfortable for non-gamblers like me.

All credits to IronSteel. I am very impressed.

To be continued...

[IronSteel]

Hi Everyone, I want to apologize to you guys because it's been a while since I've posted again in the forums and I haven't answered your questions in time.

To Marivo:

The coordinates ludo refers to are the ones according to the Excel sheet.

To robeenhut:

If by "hit" you mean my first winning shot, it has never exceeded 12 spins. You should get at least 1 or 2 hits (winning spins) within the first 15 spins of the 37 spin cycle you're starting to bet in.

To up338:

Your answer to robeenhut is correct if he means by "hit" when we should start playing.
Remember that ee start splaying after spin #74 only if we didn't get a group with 5 or less hits in the first #37 spin cycle.

To shazwad:

I play the progression until i recover all my loses and I get to a positive balance. For example: if I'm losing first 5 spins (that'd be -25 chips) and then win in the next spin in a street with 3 chips on it(you will place 8 more chips getting your balance to - 33) but since you win +36, your balance would now be +3 hence you stop playing progessions, so you're back to 1-1-1 bet).

Yes, I bet on the same streets until i get my +20 chips.

After 6 months (now 8 months) of playing this system over and over again, the highest exposure was about half my bankroll. This hasn't happened more than 2 or 3 times in more than 150 live sessions that i've been playing so far.

To nayan:

Let me know if you decide to play the system and if you have any more doubts about it.

To mogul:

There's a fundamental reason why not start playing after any number of spins that show us a group with few hits. We SEEK to play the GROUP WITH THE LESS HITS, right? So, in order for us to have a group with few hits after spin #74, this means that during spin #38 and spin # 74, THAT group had few hits, right?. So if you start playing after spin # 45 to THAT SAME GROUP WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE ONLY A FEW HITS DURING THAT CYCLE, you're up for a heavy loss, because you will most likely bet on 25-30 spins to a group that may not have more than 2 or 3 appearances, leading you to a high chip exposure. Betting after any number of spins is playing this system in the opposite way to which it was designed.

To HP:

I'm glad to know you've decided to try my system and got optimal results. Keep sharing your experience with more members, maybe we will have more people trying the system and seeing the positive results for themselves. I'm even more glad to know that you had positive results in the online roulette, even though I play this mainly in live wheels. This may mean that we're close on developing a safe and profitable strategy.

To Everyone:

Feel free to keep asking any mroe questions, I'll try to answer you faster from now on.

Best of luck to all.

[mogul397]

I'm not sure if you understood my point.  My point was that if you keep tracking
numbers in a sequential fashion, then at some point you will come to the setup to begin betting.

What difference does it make where you start to count your sequence?

So why waste an entire 37 spins to contrive a new sequence? Just begin
wherever it works.

[sniper]

Hello IronSteel,


Thank you very much for your system. Your explanation is very clear. I understand very well regarding your entry and your stop on a profit of 20 units. If we have a qualified entry point after 37 spins we will start betting from spin 38. If our target of plus 20 units is not achieve,we will continue betting on the same street irrespective of number of hit. What happen if we reach spin 111 and we are still short of our target or perhaps still loosing. Do we stop after spin 111 and start all over again or do we continue betting beyond spin 111?


Regards

[Robeenhuut]

Hi Everyone, I want to apologize to you guys because it's been a while since I've posted again in the forums and I haven't answered your questions in time.

To Marivo:

The coordinates ludo refers to are the ones according to the Excel sheet.

To robeenhut:

If by "hit" you mean my first winning shot, it has never exceeded 12 spins. You should get at least 1 or 2 hits (winning spins) within the first 15 spins of the 37 spin cycle you're starting to bet in.

To up338:

Your answer to robeenhut is correct if he means by "hit" when we should start playing.
Remember that ee start splaying after spin #74 only if we didn't get a group with 5 or less hits in the first #37 spin cycle.

To shazwad:

I play the progression until i recover all my loses and I get to a positive balance. For example: if I'm losing first 5 spins (that'd be -25 chips) and then win in the next spin in a street with 3 chips on it(you will place 8 more chips getting your balance to - 33) but since you win +36, your balance would now be +3 hence you stop playing progessions, so you're back to 1-1-1 bet).

Yes, I bet on the same streets until i get my +20 chips.

After 6 months (now 8 months) of playing this system over and over again, the highest exposure was about half my bankroll. This hasn't happened more than 2 or 3 times in more than 150 live sessions that i've been playing so far.

To nayan:

Let me know if you decide to play the system and if you have any more doubts about it.

To mogul:

There's a fundamental reason why not start playing after any number of spins that show us a group with few hits. We SEEK to play the GROUP WITH THE LESS HITS, right? So, in order for us to have a group with few hits after spin #74, this means that during spin #38 and spin # 74, THAT group had few hits, right?. So if you start playing after spin # 45 to THAT SAME GROUP WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE ONLY A FEW HITS DURING THAT CYCLE, you're up for a heavy loss, because you will most likely bet on 25-30 spins to a group that may not have more than 2 or 3 appearances, leading you to a high chip exposure. Betting after any number of spins is playing this system in the opposite way to which it was designed.

To HP:

I'm glad to know you've decided to try my system and got optimal results. Keep sharing your experience with more members, maybe we will have more people trying the system and seeing the positive results for themselves. I'm even more glad to know that you had positive results in the online roulette, even though I play this mainly in live wheels. This may mean that we're close on developing a safe and profitable strategy.

To Everyone:

Feel free to keep asking any mroe questions, I'll try to answer you faster from now on.

Best of luck to all.

Hello Ironsteel 

I tested your system on around 5000 live spins from Smartlive. I saw once a sequence without a hit for 25 spins.  You should go over 15 few times. Its not unusual. 1 Dz can sleep for 30+ spins and its 12 numbers. I saw Dz sleep for more 20 spins few times.  So better put a stop-loss on it or extend your  progression. The problem here is that you just don't need a single win but at least 2 wins and pretty close to each other. I tested similiar system of sleepers and in just around 1000 spins 6 numbers slept for 30 spins. To put things in perspective 9 numbers sleeping for 25 spins is equivalent of EC sleeping for 11 spins which is quite common.
You must have been extremely lucky if you always got a first hit within 12 spins.

Regards

[GLC]

Ironsteel,  Have you tried this way of increasing your progression?


1-1-1
1-1-1
1-1-1
2-2-2
2-2-2
2-2-2
3-3-3
3-3-3
3-3-3
4-4-4
4-4-4
4-4-4
5-5-5
etc...