Star System

[leesnose]

Sorry should have said.  Yes, reset after 2 wins in a row.

I've been playing it exactly as you would the star system but with the repeats at the start & the parlays at the end.

I suppose the only other difference is that I have been playing with the la partage rule so I count a zero as a loss but adjust the stakes of the next stages downwards as I go where it is only really a half loss.

[leesnose]

Just a quick update.

I was +160 units going into saturday, from somewhere between 200 - 300 spins.  By this morning I had crashed through all three levels & bust my bank.

I do not feel so bad about it because I did not lose discipline & break any of the rules, I hung on until the grim, bitter end.  It worked just fine on the 3,000 spins that I had recorded from previous sessions but a week in the real world did for it.  Before I started testing I was aware that any idiot can retro-fit a system of money management to previous spins but what else can we go by other than more spins?

I noticed a few things that apply to the star system & are worth further discussion but for now I am off back to the horses to raise the money to start again on the wheel.

[RouletteGhost]

I must say

Im shocked to hear the star system fail

Rumor has it on baccarat it wont fail

[denzie]

Smal hint....wait till one side gets behind (in other words...the outcome that would hurt you). Then go in. Another hint: play half the wheel or singles vs series (P.A.)

[RouletteGhost]

Denzie,

Star system on half the wheel 18 numbers is actually a fantastic idea. Youd be the unluckiest person alive to lose

Leesnose configure the star system another way. Not on the even chances the mat wants u to bet. Half the wheel is a good idea

[denzie]

Yeah...its a very STABLE bet
You can always use splits to keep the br bit down....
5/6
8/9
10/11
13/14
16/17
23/24
27/30
31/34
33/36

[leesnose]

Thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate it.

My next step will be to play those splits & wait until a number of virtual losses before I jump in.  I have to admit that I had just been turning it on & then getting stuck in, figuring that the improvement in chance from playing french rather than just european roulette would be enough.  Plenty of lessons still to learn.

I should emphasise that I was playing my reverse variation of the star progression rather than the standard version when I bust out.  Still glad that I kept it to small stakes.

A couple of quick queries about the system:

How long do you stay in recovery?  I know that the manual says it is until you have made the loss back but that can sometimes take quite a while.  The original document was written in the eighties I think, so quite some time before the advent of online, live-dealer casinos and definitely before you could be tracking a session using excel & then just pick up where you left off hours or days later.  What I am asking is whether you would stay in recovery for however long it took & run the risk of moving to the next level or would you take the loss on the chin at the end of the night?

On the main progression where you are making repeat bets if you win, has anyone tried making the repeat bet a unit or two smaller than the first bet?  That way you can enjoy it if it chops a few times because you are scalping a few units as you go & the more it chops the smaller your second bet can be for the same end profit.

[denzie]

The most I've seen till today was 15times on 1 side of the wheel. Rng.
I would suggest you wait 5 or more virtual losses and then go in (P.A.)
This way you stay out of recovery most sessions. Also check dealer signature if there is any.

And yes stay in recovery till you are recovered or almost.
You can even play it flat ....
Each time you play keep track of your spins in 111spin sets. Now after you got many sheets you will see how stable it is. If the balance never more then let's say 40/60....then you know how long to wait....and then attack. Ooops i just told a hg? Lol

[denzie]

@leesnose....how's it going?
Don't forget to check out "Carsh" twist.

[leesnose]

Pretty good so far.  I took a couple of days off after the bust & then came back with the new approach.

Rather than play the splits I went for betting series v singles on the colours.  I have been waiting for five of one before I start betting the other with my reverse star variation.  I have been following the same approach as before in that I play two sets per session & have two or three sessions over the course of an evening.

It's a bit of a change that now I find myself picking the table that is most likely to produce a trigger rather than the one with the prettiest girl running it.  It is a bit of a hardship but in the last three days I have made +100 units & not gone past the fourth level.

I am planning to give the Carsch progression a crack tomorrow, my first impression from looking at it is that I would be tempted to knock off the last two steps of the level.  I know it would lead to more losses but the idea of only going to -30 units appeals to me.

[houseworx]

All thanks goes to GLC ...

Star System Variant

    Here is a little progression that was first introduced by Carsch on GG.

    It is a variant of the original Star System (one of the better public MM systems available on the web), but is better. It requires only about 55% of the original star systems BR and only busts after 30 straight losses...

    Any two wins clear the progression. It allows you to catch streaks, as well as allows you to not go broke with WLWLWL.

    The progression

    Base level:
    1
    1
    2
    2
    4
    4
    8
    8
    16
    16 

See how to play below. 

    1 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    1 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    2 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    2 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    4 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    4 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    8 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    8 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    16 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    16 win & parlay (lose and move on to Recovery 1)

    Recovery 1 (this is played just like above)

    2
    2
    4
    4
    8
    8
    16
    16
    32
    32

    Recovery 2  (This too is played just like above)

    6
    6
    12
    12
    24
    24
    48
    48
    96
    96

As you can see, it requires 558 units to play base level, recovery 1 and recovery 2.

Base level = 62 units
Recovery 1 = 124 units
Recovery 2 = 372 units

Hey, with that kind of stuff, what you do if you win two time in row, in third level?(recovery2) change basebet to recovery2 first bet? and betting till new high or, betting till profit under 62unit level1 negative profit, and then change basebet to first betsize from recovery1?

[falkor2k15]

This system fails - don't waste time on it...
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14816.15

Somebody already said before "don't waste time chasing stars"!

[Bigbroben]

Well,
do star systems exist anyway, Falkor?

héhé

[falkor2k15]

Well,
do star systems exist anyway, Falkor?

héhé

Yep - but they aren't what you think they are...
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=tp6UkqIwVfk

[Bigbroben]

What is the point with this video?