4 X 4 DRIVE System

[buffalowizard]

Thing is though, you see one 7 loss in a year...you kose 80units

How many winning sessions you would have had? Hundreds perhaps..

I'd say the br is safe

BW

[bikemotorman]

I wanted to mention that I start on the Lds and on a loss play the Lcs, and if that is a loss play the Lds, and if that is a loss play Lcs and if that is a loss play Lds, see on a loss we Switch.


WWWWL=NOW GO TO LCS L NOW GO TO LDS WWWWWL GO TO LCS L GO TO LDS L GO TO LCS WWWWWWWW DONE


Stuart

[bikemotorman]

Hey Buf go to chat.


Stuart

[Kattila]

Why don't you bet  after trigger W (one virtual win) and stop at first L , swich, and
wait  trigger W in the  Lcs , and so on ...swich  . Ex:


Start with LDs:
 
LDs                 LCs
 
L                        L
L                       W
W trigger           L
W                       L
W                      W
L    swich           L
L                        W  trigger
W trigger           L  swich
W                       W
L   swich             W  trigger
W                       W
W                       W
L                         W
L                         W
W trigger            L  swich
W                        L
W                        W
L  swich               W trigger
W                        W

and so on....use Leveller 1,2,4 stay on 4 until in plus or hit stop-loss.
Hermes adviced this  way of play, to catch :ww streaks.
The only enemy is LWLWLW.....

For online casinos can use Victor s Lw tracker for LD,JC,LC,JC and swich
between  this  four .
link:://rouletteforum.cc/downloads/?sa=view;id=63

[bikemotorman]

Had some Trouble today because I got distracted.

Lost my play money bankroll on Jebet, I was playing here on my computer and missed some Ws.

I still think the most safe play is to wait for 3 or 4 Ls then play the Lds, or Lcs.

I got so many WL WL WL WL WLs today it was nuts, that is why I still think waiting for a series of LLL OR LLLL  is better the way I play.

Stuart         

[bikemotorman]

Start on Lds.

WL GO TO LCS
L GO TO LDS
L GO TO LCS
L GO TO LDS
W
W
W
W
L GO TO LCS
L GO TO LDS
L GO TO LCS
L GO TO LDS
W
W
W

THAT IS IT THAT IS THE WAY I PLAY, I ALWAYS COVER ZERO.



Stuart

[Hermes]

I am very fortunate this year Stuard but thanks for asking.
Buffalo is right with the progression. You lose only 80 units if 7 L's strikes but they come probably every 5,000 spins.
I wouldn't switch after 5 W to play single dozen! I got in LV 15 Ws! You would be microwaved.
Rather play all Ws and after first L bet one more time L as you would expect? If no win wait again for W trigger and repeat the L action on the end again but with Fibonacci progression. Soon you will catch the win on L also.
Cheers Hermes

[eluka]

Stuart,
You could play one year like that and win each time you  go to casino,
but also you can lose your 10 progr.  steps in the next visit to the casino.
This is Roulette, no matter if you play to catch one doz.  or col (the L) after 5 Ws,
or bet  two doz.  or two col.  after a few Ls.   Depends how lucky you are. . .

good luck

Exactly right Kattila, no matter what system you play this is always the case. 
I see 6 Ls fairly often, 7 Ls is not impossible or that rare an event as some would claim.  If 6 Ls and a zero comes, bye bye 80 units.

Playing the Ls requires less waiting and less bankroll and so far from my tests is very reliable.  Thanks again Hermes for posting the original.

@Bikemotoman - how come you're not playing for real $ (the original 4x4) after a year of good results? A 10 step progression is a bit too expensive for my liking but as you've probably noticed - rarely loses.  Have you compared playing that continuously vs waiting for 5 Ws?

[bikemotorman]

I found it more easy to after a loss on the Lds to switch to Lcs, and if that loses switch to Lds and so on.

It just suits me me a bit better and makes tracking more easy for me to watch things.

Hermes is a smart and clever player just my little twist on his method.

When I say I have not seen seven LLLLLLLs that never includes zero or double zero.


Yesterday I had two times where I had three LLLs and won after that.

I will try what Hermes said when you get an L play for a second L on one doz or col not Lds or Lcs ok.

Yesterday I had sixteen Ws on the third doz and second doz combined, so doz one missed sixteen times.




         Stuart

[buffalowizard]

Its swings and roundabouts eluka,

You hit a very choppy session, lots of WLWLWLLWWLWL

then your br is put under pressure. A win doesn't mean another is coming next

[bikemotorman]

Here are two half hour sessions on Jbet table one about an hour apart, one is choppy the other is smooth sailing lol.
As we can see if I waited for 4 Ls I would have not been able to play today.

Remember I start on Lds and on a loss play Lcs.

What I might try doing is stay flat until 3 Ls then use a progression.

What I also need to work on is never ever fight a trend ever lol.

LWWLW0LWWLLWWLWWLWWWLLLWWWLWW



LWLWWWWWWWWWWWLWWW0WWWW0LW


Stuart

[eluka]

I found it more easy to after a loss on the Lds to switch to Lcs, and if that loses switch to Lds and so on.

More easy than what Stuart? That is how you play the 4x4 drive system, I'm not sure why you've explained this.  I haven't read anyone else playing differently on this thread, I track exactly the same but I bet for it to lose ( bet 1 doz/col) rather than for it to win ( bet doz/col),
although I sometimes do bet for a W after 4 or 5 losses but if there's zeroes about - stay out!

I've been testing nearly a month now, the back test I did on page 10 of this thread and have been forward testing live on Dublinbet almost daily.  Waiting for 2 Ws and the betting with a 7 step prog - it's only lost once and I've recovered the 25 units fairly quickly.  25 units could also be a good stop-loss but recovering using 2x unit value works well too.

[eluka]

Its swings and roundabouts eluka,

You hit a very choppy session, lots of WLWLWLLWWLWL

then your br is put under pressure.  A win doesn't mean another is coming next

Not sure what you mean here buffalo - there's only one betting opportunity for me here and it wins first spin.

[buffalowizard]

Hey Eluka,

I misunderstood your technique, but went back over your post on previous page and am interested in testing this. Maybe start a thread up on your way of playing this?

Also, how do you play the zero in this...do you take the number before it hit, or start over?

Thanks
Buffalo

[bikemotorman]

Here is one more session on Jebet table two last night dealer Petra.


WWWL0W0WWWWLLWWL0WWWWWWWWLWLW


The dozens were hot for a while lol.

I was going to say we need to also focus, I remember hearing of a guy who played craps with earplugs, So he did not hear peoples Craps so to speak lol.
With a large helping of patience we can go home a winner 98 percent of the time.

Stuart