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Started by ego, Feb 14, 06:49 AM 2012

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ego

Feb 14, 06:49 AM 2012

I recon this is not news - but i like the idea.
I pretty sure that sure-bets belong to history and are very difficult to find today - maybe if some one collect a library with 50 to 100 on-line gambling company's you could succeed to allway win using sure bets - but then you had to play small and spreed your play, so you don't get obvious - sure that is a true  andvantage play.

But i play around with bets that only allow one team to win - there is no option for break even.
Does games have a name witch i don't remember.
Then some one could pick any game from anywhere witch has the odds as close to each other as possible witch would be like even money bets - example 2.25 2.30 2.15 - 1 X 2 ...

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Tomla021

#1
Feb 14, 08:38 AM 2012
have no idea what your talking about? But interested in sports betting
Could you explain more?
"No Whining, just Winning"

ego

#2
Feb 15, 05:34 AM 2012

There is a option to play only games where one team has to win and if there the results is 0-0 you get your money back - that way you have 1:1 as even money bets with out house edge.
Then you can play and pick random games witch offering odds as close to each other as possible.

That way you create your own personal permanence and deal with a 1:1 situation.

Cheers

EDIT: if you want to know how to play using Margny and Markow Chains - i could give you some basic input about the subject.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ausguy

#3
Feb 15, 04:11 PM 2012
EGO - The only odds I've seen like you mention are with Centrebet Australia - Scandinavian Ice Hockey. Some available odds included $2.35 to $2.33 - $2.53 to $2.33.
Tennis bets like $1.85 vs $1.95 I guess don't meet what your seeking with an 85% or 95% return? 

Centrebet also offers selected odd or even total score bets on NBA basketball, some tennis tournaments and many cricket games. Maybe AFL Australian football with the season due to start in a few weeks?
These bets are true 50/50 chances for success but the payouts are either 92% or 95%. A viable money management plan with a workable progression could be a winner?

Anyway Centrebet is there on line for anyone to check it out. Centrebet may also have a London based site? My account is with the OZ based agency. They're probably linked to get world sport coverage?  All the best with it EGO.

Regards, Hugh.

Tomla021

#4
Feb 15, 04:14 PM 2012
that would be great
thanks
"No Whining, just Winning"

ego

#5
Feb 16, 03:25 AM 2012
Quote from: Tomla021 on Feb 15, 04:14 PM 2012
that would be great
thanks

I assume you would like some input regarding personal permanence and how the distribution unfold.
How to observe chaotic and non chaotic behavior, apply high probability and math witch pinpoint out good ways to distinct different chains of waves - i can do that as i know the very best developing regarding the subject  :twisted: witch would apply pretty good to a sport-betting solution i mention above.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Tomla021

#6
Feb 16, 12:25 PM 2012
yes it would be interesting to see your theories
"No Whining, just Winning"

birdhands

#7
Feb 16, 05:05 PM 2012
I'm thinking why go through all the trouble when you can just play the BV no zero wheel?

ego

#8
Feb 16, 06:08 PM 2012
Quote from: birdhands on Feb 16, 05:05 PM 2012
I'm thinking why go through all the trouble when you can just play the BV no zero wheel?

Because it is all about % and using sports betting they sometimes offering higher odds then 2.00 ...

Quoteyes it would be interesting to see your theories

It is not my theory - the work has already been done by others ... i just add some deep knowledge about the subject and sometimes with a twist ...

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego

#9
Feb 20, 03:16 AM 2012

This is not roulette and this apply to sport betting.
Random.org is a good place for testing.

Now i will make things simple and just divide the distribution of even money bets into three existing waves.
Then you will have the same probability as using Dozen or 1 in 3 possibility's.

No matter witch wave out of 3 possible ones, so do you have to bet twice to capture or ride two of them.
I will show you how to capture does waves witch is present and repeats and one is falling to sleep.
That is just for observation to see how the waves come and go being present or sleeping.
With other words, balance and imbalance.

The idea is only to ride does waves that gain a fictive win.
Witch make losing strings less and capture nice strings of winning bets.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego

#10
Feb 26, 09:09 AM 2012

If some one would bet Moneyline or 1:1 with out hose edge this is how it would look like using the even money with 1 in 3 states or chains or some one could use Asian-handicap.


Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego

#11
Feb 26, 10:12 AM 2012

Well we never know after passing 1024 trails so we can see some fluctation and again after 300 trials it does not fail - but some hardcore up and downs ...


Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.
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