Hey, Butterflies! Here Are The Keys To The Bank!!

[iggiv]

Well, it is not very nice to brag about stuff and then just shut up. I mean if u win -- good for u, but is it not better just keep it for yourself and not brag about it? There used to be a good rule: put up or shut up.

this forum is not about bragging how much u won but rather about helping each other. So when someone tells everybody else: "i win at roulette and it is all mine, mine, mine", then what r u doing in this forum? Staying here just to brag about your achievements?

i don't think that's a good idea. And telling around that u r smarter than anybody else here -- does not make u one, but rather on the contrary.

that's what i think. This forum was created for helping each other. Of course nobody has obligation to tell all his secrets, and many people may have secrets here. But most of the people don't come here just to brag about their secrets.

[Skakus]

Well, it is not very nice to brag about stuff and then just shut up. I mean if u win -- good for u, but is it not better just keep it for yourself and not brag about it? There used to be a good rule: put up or shut up.

this forum is not about bragging how much u won but rather about helping each other. So when someone tells everybody else: "i win at roulette and it is all mine, mine, mine", then what r u doing in this forum? Staying here just to brag about your achievements?

i don't think that's a good idea. And telling around that u r smarter than anybody else here -- does not make u one, but rather on the contrary.

that's what i think. This forum was created for helping each other. Of course nobody has obligation to tell all his secrets, and many people may have secrets here. But most of the people don't come here just to brag about their secrets.

Well said iggiv. I agree 100%.

You should take notice, Maan. 

[iggiv]

going back to the subject about winning methods. I personally think that using wheel layout one way or another may help a lot. It could be a wheel layout, or it could be matrix based on a wheel layout.
Kimo Li has lots of research done on this, and some of results You can find here or in another "old" VLS forum. vlsroulette.com

i think if u don't know what to do it may be a good idea to try. No guarantees of course. And it is not gonna be easy.

there are also some other good methods posted on those forums.

[amk]

"It could be matrix based on a wheel layout"

I like that one iggiv.

[ANONYMOUS]

"It could be matrix based on a wheel layout"

I like that one iggiv.

I second that, it sparked my mind right away, am working on it now.

[marvin]

Well, it is not very nice to brag about stuff and then just shut up. I mean if u win -- good for u, but is it not better just keep it for yourself and not brag about it? There used to be a good rule: put up or shut up.

this forum is not about bragging how much u won but rather about helping each other. So when someone tells everybody else: "i win at roulette and it is all mine, mine, mine", then what r u doing in this forum? Staying here just to brag about your achievements?

i don't think that's a good idea. And telling around that u r smarter than anybody else here -- does not make u one, but rather on the contrary.

that's what i think. This forum was created for helping each other. Of course nobody has obligation to tell all his secrets, and many people may have secrets here. But most of the people don't come here just to brag about their secrets.

like x 100 

[ego]

I have a very good winmethod. I would never reveal anything. I would never post anything about it. I lost some, I won more than i lost. And do so on a regular basis. I am not in the need to prove anything to anyone.

Since the most of You just spend your time ether try to crash peoples stats/mehods. Or to ASSUME this one did that or this one did this. That guy lost that, He won that.. and so on. A very few of You actually KNOW anything about what the players around here did or does..You THINK You know. But you don't.

Theres has been posts on this Board at several occations that clearly tells You all how to get the Edge. But all You do is keep on with your "meaningless tests and systems. And try to crush players who got this Edge.

Not good fellows. Start think out of the Box
/Maan

Just correct you - don't use the word edge as you could have one using roulette systems.
The proper word to use is high strike ratio.

[Proofreaders2000]

"...who flit from flower to flower to flower in a compulsive search for nectar."--Twangbone

No need to search the flowers...grind various flowers and create your own nectar.

[ego]

"...who flit from flower to flower to flower in a compulsive search for nectar."--Twangbone

No need to search the flowers...grind various flowers and create your own nectar.

True :-)

[GLC]

Here's what I've discovered.  I have played systems that I tested with excellent results.  I have won consistently with some of them and then came the session(s) from hell and either brought me back to zero or almost.  Note:  I never give back everything I've won after reaching +500 units.  I quit that system and play another one.  Usually, I'm working on 2 or 3 others at all times. 


I think that's what we can expect.  Play a method or system and win with it but realize that at any time you could, and unless you are very lucky, eventually will have a series of losses that will cause you to question whether you were just being lucky and now reality has caught up with you or is this just a freak losing period and all you need to do is stay steady and you'll weather the storm and come out on top soon.  This mentality could spell disaster.


At worst you could be in a bad deviation pattern that will last your lifetime and at best you could be in a good deviation pattern that will last your lifetime.  Remember, in the overall scope of things, most of us will bet relatively few spins in the years allotted to us.


Just a thought to cheer you up.


GLC


DON'T PLAY WITH MONEY YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE!                                                                                  DON'T PLAY WITH MONEY YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE!

[MAX]

Butterflies...  .. .

Regards
Max

[iggiv]

GLC, your running lines are very cool and right. Thanx.

[Amazin]

Here's what I've discovered.  I have played systems that I tested with excellent results.  I have won consistently with some of them and then came the session(s) from hell and either brought me back to zero or almost.  Note:  I never give back everything I've won after reaching +500 units.  I quit that system and play another one.  Usually, I'm working on 2 or 3 others at all times. 


I think that's what we can expect.  Play a method or system and win with it but realize that at any time you could, and unless you are very lucky, eventually will have a series of losses that will cause you to question whether you were just being lucky and now reality has caught up with you or is this just a freak losing period and all you need to do is stay steady and you'll weather the storm and come out on top soon.  This mentality could spell disaster.


At worst you could be in a bad deviation pattern that will last your lifetime and at best you could be in a good deviation pattern that will last your lifetime.  Remember, in the overall scope of things, most of us will bet relatively few spins in the years allotted to us.


Just a thought to cheer you up.


GLC

I'm not sure what you're trying to say GLC. There are no reliable systems out there?

Btw, everyone Ignore Maan, he's being childish. I bet he's losing right now.

[iggiv]

GLC is right i think. Most of the systems won't work consistently, and when u won some better move on. Unless you r using bias, dealer signature or VB of course.

[Amazin]

GLC is right i think. Most of the systems won't work consistently, and when u won some better move on. Unless you're using bias, dealer signature or VB of course.

well, I still new when it comes to gambling and statements like that worries me. I'm under the impression that both you and GLC are veterans on here. Surely both of you would have set of systems that can win consistant profits by now? Otherwise, what is the point of having this forum or talk about roulette if all system fails?