5 Singles

[prodec2]

HI all, i am playing numbers 3, 26 , 0 ,32 and 15 , I sometimes find the dealers always trying to spin a 0 so thats why i play the 0 and two numbers either side ,

I would really appreciate if anyone could do a progression for me .
Its seems to working ok at the moment .

regards J

[Kattila]

Hi prodec2,
I already have one progression for 5 numbers ( for online casinos):



1.    0,25 x 5        -1,25       +7,5
2.    0,25 x 5        -2,50       +6,5
3.    0,25 x 5        -3,75       +5,25
4.    0,50 x 5        -6,25       +11,75
5.    0,50 x 5        -8,75       +9,25
6.    0,50 x 5        -11,25     +6,75
7.    0,75 x 5        -15          +12
8.    0,75 x 5        -18,75     +8,25
9.       1   x 5        -23,75     +12,25
10.     1   x 5        -28,75     +7,25
11.  1,25 x 5        -35          +10
12.  1,50 x 5        -42,5       +11,5
13.  1,75 x 5        -51,25     +11,75
14.      2  x 5        -61,25     +10,75
15.  2,25 x 5        -72,5       +8,5
16.  2,50 x 5        -85          +5
17.      3  x 5        -100        +8
18.  3,50 x 5        -117,5     +8,5
19.      4  x 5        -137,5     +6,5
20.  4,75 x 5        -161,25   +9,75
21.  5,50 x 5        -188,75   +9,25
22.  6,50 x 5        -221,25   +12,75
23.  7,50 x 5        -258,75   +11,25   

BTW my advice is to stay away from big progressions , try flat bet
methods, or at least use a stop lose around -150 (or max. -250).


cheers

[Robeenhuut]

Hi prodec2,
I already have one progression for 5 numbers ( for online casinos):



1.    0,25 x 5        -1,25       +7,5
2.    0,25 x 5        -2,50       +6,5
3.    0,25 x 5        -3,75       +5,25
4.    0,50 x 5        -6,25       +11,75
5.    0,50 x 5        -8,75       +9,25
6.    0,50 x 5        -11,25     +6,75
7.    0,75 x 5        -15          +12
8.    0,75 x 5        -18,75     +8,25
9.       1   x 5        -23,75     +12,25
10.     1   x 5        -28,75     +7,25
11.  1,25 x 5        -35          +10
12.  1,50 x 5        -42,5       +11,5
13.  1,75 x 5        -51,25     +11,75
14.      2  x 5        -61,25     +10,75
15.  2,25 x 5        -72,5       +8,5
16.  2,50 x 5        -85          +5
17.      3  x 5        -100        +8
18.  3,50 x 5        -117,5     +8,5
19.      4  x 5        -137,5     +6,5
20.  4,75 x 5        -161,25   +9,75
21.  5,50 x 5        -188,75   +9,25
22.  6,50 x 5        -221,25   +12,75
23.  7,50 x 5        -258,75   +11,25   

by the way my advice is to stay away from big progressions , try flat bet
methods, or at least use a stop-loss around -150 (or max. -250).


cheers

Never bet static if you bet on repeaters or on any set of numbers.  Only way is to keep adding numbers to bet on. Stop-loss of around 200 might do but im not convinced. If you keep adding numbers it puts more strain on your BR but you are expected to get a hit within 20 spins. And if you cover 0 cover 5 too. After 0 hits usually 5 follows soon for some reason.

Regards

[Kattila]

Never bet static if you bet on repeaters or on any set of numbers.  Only way is to keep adding numbers to bet on. Stop-loss of around 200 might do but I'm not convinced. If you keep adding numbers it puts more strain on your BR but you are expected to get a hit within 20 spins. And if you cover 0 cover 5 too. After 0 hits usually 5 follows soon for some reason.

Regards

I am a fan of repeaters and also i do add numbers...see some ideas...link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1980.msg18104#msg18104

But not agree that is the only way...i prefer flat bet/and middle progressions
on few hot inside numbers, also
some events like movements on wheel and table....

And there is no reason to hit the number 5 after 0, just coincidence, like Ego says...
*the ball have 37 ( or 38) degrees of freedom...*
anyway i belive  the dealers have some influence.....




cheers

[iggiv]

don't play stiff patterns like that, and no progression will help u

[Robeenhuut]

I am a fan of repeaters and also i do add numbers...see some ideas...link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1980.msg18104#msg18104

But not agree that is the only way...i prefer flat bet/and middle progressions
on few hot inside numbers, also
some events like movements on wheel and table....

And there is no reason to hit the number 5 after 0, just coincidence, like Ego says...
*the ball have 37 ( or 38) degrees of freedom...*
anyway i belive  the dealers have some influence.....




cheers

Hello Katilla

5 following 0 was meant as a sort of a joke  . 5 would be amongst my 5 favorite numbers to bet on. Its just a theory. Ok but seriously. Adding repeaters has one simple reason - in any 12 spins you have about 80% chance of getting repeat hit  So lets say that after 24 spins you have 5 repeaters already and in next few spins you add a few new ones. There is a good chance that a new addition will hit again in next 12 spins and because it was on the board already it will become winner. I get lots of hits like this. Betting static or even worse - removing numbers just because you track only some number of last spins its not the way to go. It only eases your BR but why would you want to miss a chance of getting hit on an earliest repeat?  I never start betting before 24 spins in a cycle and only if i have at least 3 or 4 qualifiers. Progression is calculated on the go to stay in profit after each potential hit. I play just for first win. 
In 50000 spins on Rx within 36 spins you will get a number that hit 3 times around 96 times in 100 games. It went few times over 40. Record 48 - just once and  next closes was 43. i know its not 1M but its remarkably consistent.
Flat betting wont work in the long run, stop-loss?
Maybe you stop if no winner after 36 spins. Your win averages around 18,20 units. So if your strike rate holds at 96% for example you break even if your stop loss is around 500 units. I never went longer than 17 spins and as far i remember i was down around 700 units. You very rarely get to 200,300u level.  Its dynamic progression so its difficult to say what your draw down would be because you add new numbers. If you bet on 6 numbers static you get to 700u level  after 20 spins.
Few people would play it because of  BR requirements - i play 0.1 or 0.2 euro as a unit on slingshot and you have to be real quick (i have 45 sec)  to change and calculate your bets. Patience is also important because i always wait for few virtual loses and never bet before 24 spins.


Regards

[prodec2]

I dont do coding for RX , but is there anyone who might code , no bet on 3 , 26 0 , 32, 15 , that doesnt show in the last 10 spins and then bet with a proper progression , regards j

[niksa]

HI all, i am playing numbers 3, 26 , 0 ,32 and 15 , I sometimes find the dealers always trying to spin a 0 so that's why i play the 0 and two numbers either side ,

I would really appreciate if anyone could do a progression for me .
Its seems to working ok at the moment .

regards J

Hi!
I do not know what is your bank,but using this tool, you can combine the progression depending on your bank.

link:://:.loothog.com/Systems/prog.html

Have a nice day!

[downthehatch]

HI all, i am playing numbers 3, 26 , 0 ,32 and 15 , I sometimes find the dealers always trying to spin a 0 so that's why i play the 0 and two numbers either side ,

I would really appreciate if anyone could do a progression for me .
Its seems to working ok at the moment .

regards J

if its working 'at the moment' your simply being lucky.

im interested in repeating numbers and constructed a 40 (yes 40) step progression for any five numbers, starting from 10p for use on 10p min air ball on paddy power, victor chandler etc, in fact it could only go to 39 spins in reality as the max bet on single numbers on those sites was £25
and the 40th spin was £28,

anyhoo I tested in real time against paddy power and VC, this thinking it would be virtually impossible to lose, and guess what on only the 4th test there was a run of 44 spins without a hit on any of the five numbers!!

if playing for real I WOULD HAVE LOST £857.50P, which was the betting bank required for 39 spins

if such progressions and systems worked roulette would not exist, well not in the form its in now.

Cheers

[iggiv]

HI all, i am playing numbers 3, 26 , 0 ,32 and 15 , I sometimes find the dealers always trying to spin a 0 so that's why i play the 0 and two numbers either side ,

I would really appreciate if anyone could do a progression for me .
Its seems to working ok at the moment .

regards J

if its working 'at the moment' your simply being lucky.

I'm interested in repeating numbers and constructed a 40 (yes 40) step progression for any five numbers, starting from 10p for use on 10p min air ball on paddy power, Victor chandler etc, in fact it could only go to 39 spins in reality as the max bet on single numbers on those sites was £25
and the 40th spin was £28,

anyhoo I tested in real time against paddy power and VC, this thinking it would be virtually impossible to lose, and guess what on only the 4th test there was a run of 44 spins without a hit on any of the five numbers!!

if playing for real I WOULD HAVE LOST £857.50P, which was the betting bank required for 39 spins

if such progressions and systems worked roulette would not exist, well not in the form its in now.

Cheers

well, that's true

[Robeenhuut]

well, that's true

Hello

If you want to play numbers get all repeaters from 36 spins. Wait few virtual spins and flat bet all the numbers that hit at least 2 times. Put stop-loss at 40u.  You win on average 16u and your strike rate in the long run will be way over 4 to 1. Just play until you are down 40u which means 3 or 4 spins.  Dont be tempted to play more spins because it can go  without hit for 15 or more spins.  But it hits mostly within 4 or 5 spins.
I play also repeaters with prog without stop-loss but it requires massive BR even if you play with 0.1 as a unit. Also you have to be really fast with your prog because you add new repeaters as they hit.

Regards

[iggiv]

if u win more than u lose than progression does not make sense. If u require large bankroll then
proportionally u win less than with flatbet. If u win 4 to 1 then u can use large units instead.

[Robeenhuut]

if u win more than u lose than progression does not make sense. If u require large bankroll then
proportionally u win less than with flatbet. If u win 4 to 1 then You can use large units instead.

Yeah iggiv

I experimented with lots of approaches. What scares me are logistics  like not enough time to place bets on many numbers if you keep adding them and you have to calculate also your next bet. I tested it for 50k spins and it never went more than 22 spins but you know what could happen...
I believe that waiting 3 or 4 virtual loses and flat bet on all numbers that hit at least 2 times in last 36 spins and stop loss of around 40u can give you winning strike ratio in the long run.
So far i tested it for around 8k spins and im in a big profit. It behaves very consistently but im aware that more testing is needed.
I played repeaters for a long time and i think this is a best approach.

Regards

[downthehatch]

Hello

If you want to play numbers get all repeaters from 36 spins. Wait few virtual spins and flat bet all the numbers that hit at least 2 times. Put stop-loss at 40u.  You win on average 16u and your strike rate in the long run will be way over 4 to 1. Just play until you are down 40u which means 3 or 4 spins.  don't be tempted to play more spins because it can go  without hit for 15 or more spins.  But it hits mostly within 4 or 5 spins.
I play also repeaters with prog without stop-loss but it requires massive BR even if you play with 0.1 as a unit. Also you have to be really fast with your prog because you add new repeaters as they hit.

hi you can say that again!! i constructed a prog for 8 'repeating' numbers i.e. numbers that had repeated over a 30 spin sequence, the prog starts at 10p but by the 12th spin you are betting £200
per number and the betting bank required is £3, 290 !!!!!

even if you were crazy enough to do it  (you could actually only go to the 9th spin on paddy vic chan, smart live at £25 on each number, bank £391) it would truly be difficult to get the money on
one can easily click the wrong chip value or just simply run out of time, smart live air ball is best as you get about 45 seconds !!!!

the 'practicality' of many systems makes them virtually unusable, tracking of numbers, charts, progressions
also using progs with units lower than 1, i.e working out " now thats 57 units at 30p a unit on that column and 43 units at 40p on that dozen" so to speak whilst some how managing to put the actual bloody bet on in about 30 seconds !!! do me a favour! why is it that we never seem to hear of continued relentless winning with such systems? because they all go tits up

ill do some testing with your idea Robeenhut,
Cheers Dth

[Robeenhuut]

Hello

If you want to play numbers get all repeaters from 36 spins. Wait few virtual spins and flat bet all the numbers that hit at least 2 times. Put stop-loss at 40u.  You win on average 16u and your strike rate in the long run will be way over 4 to 1. Just play until you are down 40u which means 3 or 4 spins.  don't be tempted to play more spins because it can go  without hit for 15 or more spins.  But it hits mostly within 4 or 5 spins.
I play also repeaters with prog without stop-loss but it requires massive BR even if you play with 0.1 as a unit. Also you have to be really fast with your prog because you add new repeaters as they hit.

hi you can say that again!! i constructed a prog for 8 'repeating' numbers i.e. numbers that had repeated over a 30 spin sequence, the prog starts at 10p but by the 12th spin you are betting £200
per number and the betting bank required is £3, 290 !!!!!

even if you were crazy enough to do it  (you could actually only go to the 9th spin on paddy vic chan, smart live at £25 on each number, bank £391) it would truly be difficult to get the money on
one can easily click the wrong chip value or just simply run out of time, smart live air ball is best as you get about 45 seconds !!!!

the 'practicality' of many systems makes them virtually unusable, tracking of numbers, charts, progressions
also using progs with units lower than 1, i.e working out " now that's 57 units at 30p a unit on that column and 43 units at 40p on that dozen" so to speak whilst some how managing to put the actual bloody bet on in about 30 seconds !!! do me a favour! why is it that we never seem to hear of continued relentless winning with such systems? because they all go tits up

ill do some testing with your idea Robeenhut,
Cheers Dth

Hello

Just test flat betting with stop-loss. And i think it works better if you bet at least 9 or 10 numbers. The other system only would work at B&M casinos with low betting limits because of aforementioned logistic problems. I have not done enough testing to find out if it would have worked with flat betting and or stop  loss. I used to play it online but now switched to different systems.   

Regards