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HYBRID DC4

Started by warrior, Apr 18, 09:35 AM 2012

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Johnlegend

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 14, 12:32 PM 2012
Yes Atlantis. That would. I'm not posting it on the forum. I am going to let it speak for itself against an RNG. Because the thinking behind it is completely going against everything that seems logical.and sensible. So I want the results to talk for themselves. Those who then have a genuine interest will be given the method.

This is so like the little kid--who, when he can't win--takes his ball and goes home.

Those of us who actually dared to asked tough questions of JL are supposed to watch and weep as John and his minions rake in hundreds of thousands!!

I will predict this test with Bayes software will never happen. 

(The keyword is Bailey so I can find this post again.)


TwoCatSam

Sam it will happen. Be sure of that. What I predict is some people will wish it never happened. Know what I mean Sam??. MOP will have to shut his super negative trap. Why people like him even bother with a roulette forum is beyond me. He has no interest in going forward with this game.

So theres no bail from my side no siree. If Bayes holds his nerve, does his learning. And comes forward with the RNG. A few months down the road. People will start to realize when I say something I mean it. And what I say Hit an Run can achieve it does. And what I say of maths in relation to roulette is so. And what I say of the human factor and the mindset of most players is absolute. Vile has given you guys a semi grail. I already know that. Its amazing that no one really sees this yet.

I ve said it forever. The means to beating this game lie all over this  forum. HYBRID DC4, CODE 4 PATTERN BREAKER. 3 AGAINST THE LINE. TRILOGY, MATRIX VERTICAL 5 STREET 7. And more. The minds to make use of them don't. Most still squabbling over this useless maths theory tripe. Instead of getting down to the business of WINNING...

6th-sense

again i,m asking if any one has a big volume of spins in this format or a program i could download to put results into this format...

GLC

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jun 15, 03:51 AM 2012
again I'm asking if any one has a big volume of spins in this format or a program i could download to put results into this format...

I'm assuming you've checked the Actual Spins section.  If what you're looking for isn't there it may not be available.  But you never know.  Someone maybe hasn't seen your request who has just what you're looking for.  Maybe start a new topic titled, "Big Volume of Spins Needed".
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

Congratulations Warrior,

I have to agree with JL, I think this may be the crown jewel.

I don't have a lot of time for testing, but just can't seem to get this thing to tank.

I'm working on a progression a little less volatile than a martingale, although with the martingale a loss every now and then isn't that hard to recover from.

The question is, "What is the best progression to maximize wins in the long run?"

If I come to a conclusion, I'll post it.

:thumbsup:

P.S.  I thought you said that all double dozen systems tanked in the long run.  Maybe you were a little hasty in your conclusion.  Let's hope so! :ooh:
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

The +1, -1 is not bad but I prefer the +2, -1.  My forced win progression kicks butt but can also get a little hairy. 

I'm leaning toward the martingale for now for this reason.  The strength of this system is in a pattern not repeating itself.  Therefore, we're trying to get a win within a certain number of attempts.  This is different from betting a system that shoots for a win every time.

Granted, we still get a lot of wins on the 1st and 2nd bets so I'm not saying a D'Alembert type system is bad, it just doesn't fit the overall logic of the system as well as a martingale.

I'm testing this now using 3 bankrolls.  One for each dozen.  That way I don't have to wait as long between bets when I have a double loss.

Say I have 1a3c and I get 1a3c representing 2 losses.  If I'm only playing with 1 bank, I have to wait for a 1 trigger to bet again.  By using 3 banks, I can play the 2 and 3 dozens if they come up while I'm waiting for another 1 trigger so I can finish my 3rd and 4th bets.

Each bank has it's own progression.

So far it seems to be working okay.  Unfortunately, I'm one of those guys who hate to track spins waiting for betting opportunities any longer than necessary.

Cheers
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Johnlegend

Quote from: GLC on Jun 15, 04:48 PM 2012
Congratulations Warrior,

I have to agree with JL, I think this may be the crown jewel.

I don't have a lot of time for testing, but just can't seem to get this thing to tank.

I'm working on a progression a little less volatile than a martingale, although with the martingale a loss every now and then isn't that hard to recover from.

The question is, "What is the best progression to maximize wins in the long run?"

If I come to a conclusion, I'll post it.

:thumbsup:

P.S.  I thought you said that all double dozen systems tanked in the long run.  Maybe you were a little hasty in your conclusion.  Let's hope so! :ooh:
I believe so GLC. Its the best thing on here in my opinion and testing thus far. I just cannot see this losing longerm mid term any term. Its combined AMKs CODE 4 and Scoobies D&C. Into a titanium tough method for random to break.

And dare I say played as you know I play. Im expecting great things from it.

Tomla021

silly me I just started looking at this thread,, pretty awesome
"No Whining, just Winning"

Tomla021

just tried 500 spins using 3 separate banks.. up 2 on a loss -1 on a win---performed oh la la ----tres bien... got in trouble on one bank but it bounced out quick.
"No Whining, just Winning"

GLC

Quote from: Tomla021 on Jun 15, 08:21 PM 2012
just tried 500 spins using 3 separate banks.. up 2 on a loss -1 on a win---performed oh la la ----tres bien... got in trouble on one bank but it bounced out quick.

Tom,  The thing we don't know yet is does all three columns working together use random better than 1 column alone.  So playing all three columns with a separate bank roll and their own progression may expose our banks at a higher rate.  I don't know yet.
If we wanted, we could just pick one of the columns and play only it.  Let's say we pick the 2 column.  If we have 2a1b we spins until we get another 2 followed by an "a" the safe way and then we bet against the 1 and if we lose the "b" next.  If we lose both, we spin until we get another 2 and then we bet against the a and then the 1 and then the b.
I don't know.  This could be ruining the system which evidently works just fine as presented.
GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Johnlegend

Quote from: GLC on Jun 15, 09:28 PM 2012

Tom,  The thing we don't know yet is does all three columns working together use random better than 1 column alone.  So playing all three columns with a separate bankroll and their own progression may expose our banks at a higher rate.  I don't know yet.
If we wanted, we could just pick one of the columns and play only it.  Let's say we pick the 2 column.  If we have 2a1b we spins until we get another 2 followed by an "a" the safe way and then we bet against the 1 and if we lose the "b" next.  If we lose both, we spin until we get another 2 and then we bet against the a and then the 1 and then the b.
I don't know.  This could be ruining the system which evidently works just fine as presented.
GLC
I've been playing short 2 game sessions with this. And I am 220/1 With 26 units on the line. I'm more than impressed. Warrior himself said he went a whole year without losing. And because of how he plays I believe him. This is one of the greatest methods of ALLTIME. Make no mistake about that. Warrior can't get enough credit for this as far as I'm concerned.

Some special people are involved in its origins Scooby and AMK. And I believe I had a tiny influence in it as well. But people like Warrior and Atlantis never give up. They never stop twisting and pushing a method. And that's how greatness is forged. A great method to me is one that can come close to doubling my risk per game. And this looks like it can 10 fold it.

GLC

I'm with you JL.  This is so strong that any progression I try wins handily.  I'm having trouble deciding between the 1-1;3-3; 9-9 like you're playing for a 26 unit risk vs the +2 on a loss and -1 on a win.  They both seem to work well.

To be honest, I keep waiting for the down turn.  I almost can't believe this system can continue to perform this well.

Surprised but pleased,
GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

If some of us medlers can't ruin it, then you know it's "the one".  I thought I had posted "the one" a year or so ago, but it turned out to be "the imposter".
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Tomla021

Sitting here testing it now George. :) Just playing around with it, no conclusions yet but it seems solid. I also would have a hard time waiting at a real table so I tried it your way.
I was also thinking of playing each column up and down 1A2B
                                                                                     1A2C
                                                                                     1A3A
the C wins one unit , the 3 wins on second attempt if your following what I am saying ?


Just started testing it, a great progression would help as double dozen bets get me nervous:))))))


Was even thinking the regular way playing each column straight as you where thinking, play 11,22 break even 44 lose 2 the other two columns should get you ahead 


Believe me Im far away from playing it live--give me a day or two-lol
                                                                                 
"No Whining, just Winning"

Johnlegend

Quote from: GLC on Jun 15, 09:43 PM 2012
If some of us medlers can't ruin it, then you know it's "the one".  I thought I had posted "the one" a year or so ago, but it turned out to be "the imposter".
Imposter Iove that GLC.

Tomla021

Don't feel like Im screwing with the system I kinda like it as written, just did 500 going across as stated----the Betting part is another matter all together-lol,,,
"No Whining, just Winning"

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