HYBRID DC4

[marvin]

another struggling on my 7th night went down as much as -120ish twice then recover to +40ish then have to stop will have a long day tomorrow.

i think if i am going to continue this game it will eat up my projected bankroll of 200

[Johnlegend]

Warrior take no notice of Berretta. The metthod as I'm playing it 26 units wait for a virtual loss is working great. Its on par with Trilogy holding around 99/1 and that's good enough for me. You can't help some people their mind isnt ready to win and most probably neverwill be. They were brainwashed into thinking like losers. And theres no change coming for most of them.

[Robeenhuut]

Warrior take no notice of Berretta. The metthod as I'm playing it 26 units wait for a virtual loss is working great. Its on par with Trilogy holding around 99/1 and that's good enough for me. You can't help some people their mind isnt ready to win and most probably neverwill be. They were brainwashed into thinking like losers. And theres no change coming for most of them.

Hola JL

Congrats John. U came up with a method whose strike rate keeps going up.  Did u make some changes?  U started  with 36/1 progressed 2  66/1 n u r almost at 100/1     Yeah u stressed a importance of patience. If u patient enough yr strike rate will go up.  N in my testing i was only able 2 hit around 30/1 f i remember correctly.  I guess i need 2 start playing in yr casino.  Ladbrokes n BV?

[Robeenhuut]

Warrior take no notice of Berretta. The metthod as I'm playing it 26 units wait for a virtual loss is working great. Its on par with Trilogy holding around 99/1 and that's good enough for me. You can't help some people their mind isnt ready to win and most probably neverwill be. They were brainwashed into thinking like losers. And theres no change coming for most of them.

John. U need 2 get some sense of humor. Beretta was just commenting on posts about sessions played by Marvin. And Marvin played not Hybrid DC4 but some mix of it with PCWB n reported
some big draw downs. Lets hope that some people can be brainwashed into thinking like winners. 

Regards

[marvin]

hehe ddnt notice that jl was referring to me.

no test session for me last night , ill try to have 2 test sessions tonight and post it later

[marvin]

it seems like it turns out that i hijacked this thread and it already creates some confusion.
ill create another thread in testing section to report in my findings

[marvin]

Hola JL

Congrats John. U came up with a method whose strike rate keeps going up.  Did u make some changes?  U started  with 36/1 progressed 2  66/1 n u r almost at 100/1     Yeah u stressed a importance of patience. If u patient enough yr strike rate will go up.  N in my testing i was only able 2 hit around 30/1 f i remember correctly.  I guess i need 2 start playing in yr casino.  Ladbrokes n BV?

with a target 5% profit of the bankroll, i think these kinds of strike rate is doable.

[GLC]

I'm going to propose a new bet method for double dozen systems.  I've been testing it on this system with excellent results.
Here's the progression:
1-1
1-1; 3-3
1-1; 3-3; 9-9
1-1; 3-3; 9-9; 27-27
Total buy-in is 116 units.  Not to worry.  We can never lose 116 units.  To do so would mean that we would have to lose 10 bets in a row.  The strike rate is way too high on this system to ever lose anywhere close to that amount.  So, we can probably get by with 100 units, maybe even 75.

We play 1-1 as long as we win.  Once we lose we move to the next level, 1-1; 3-3.  We play this level until we recover our 2 lost units and then move back to 1-1 level.  If we lose the 1-1; 3-3 level we drop down to the 1-1; 3-3; 9-9  we play this level until we only have 2 units to recover and then we drop back 1 level and recover the last 2 units at which time we start over.

If we lose at the 1-1; 3-3; 9-9 level we move to the next level of 1-1; 3-3; 9-9; 27-27.
We stay at this level until we recover all but 26 units and then we drop down to the next lower level and recover all but 10 units and then we drop down to the next lower level and recover the last 2 units.

It is obviously built on the idea that most of our wins will be at the 1-1 level and the vast majority of our wins will be at the 1-1 and 1-1   3-3 levels.

Only the rarest of bad luck will cause us to lose at the 1-1   3-3   9-9   27-27  level.  By the time we do, we hope to be well ahead of the 116 units loss.

For those of you who have the money you can add the next level of 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27  81-81.  That rachets the buy-in to 358 units, but it makes a loss seem almost impossible.  Not impossible, but almost.  It's never absolute.

If you would like to play with a bankroll similar to what F_LAT_INO recommends, you can even add the next level of 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27  81-81  243-243.  For only 1086 units total buy-in.
1-1
1-1  3-3
1-1  3-3  9-9
1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27
1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27  81-81
1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27  81-81  243-243

That's a formidable bank roll to throw at a double dozens system.  I can't imagine what kind of bad luck it would take to lose this whole progression.  Granted with some clumped losses you can spend a lot of time pulling out of the hole.  But it should be doable.

I know this sounds like a crazy way to bet, but give it a try before you decide it won't work for you.  You might be very surprised.

I've been testing this with a bet selection of alternating from betting the last 2 dozens to hit and the farthest 2 dozens to hit.  Kind of like the author's bet selection method on even chances of Same  Opposite  Same  Opposite.   Last 2 dozens   farthest 2 dozens   last 2 dozens  farthest 2 dozens etc...

[roulettefan]

@GLC
thank you for your god work on progression
how do you play this flow
L W L L W W W L L W W  LW L W L L L L  W W L

[GLC]

@GLC
thank you for your God work on progression
how do you play this flow
L W L L W W W L L W W  LW L W L L L L  W W L

Level 1 = 1-1
Level 2 = 1-1  3-3
Level 3 = 1-1  3-3  9-9
Level 4 = 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27
Level 5 = 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27  81-81
Level 6 = 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27  81-81  243-243

Above W/L sequence:
L   -1-1  =-2  Lose on 1st level  -2
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 2nd level  -1
L  -1-1 = -2  Lose on 1st bet of 2nd level   -3
L  -3-3 = -6  Lose on 2nd bet of 2nd level  -9
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 3rd level  -8
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 3rd level  -7
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 3rd level  -6
L   -1-1 = -2 Lose on 1st bet of 3rd level -8
L   -3-3 = -6 Lose on 2nd bet of 3rd level -14
W  +9-9 = +9  Win on 3rd bet of 3rd level -5
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 3rd level -4
L   -1-1  = -2  Lose on 1st bet of 3rd level -6
W  +3-3  = +3  Win on 2nd bet of 3rd level -3
L  -1-1  = -2  Lose on 1st bet of 3rd level -5
W  +3-3 = +3  Win on 2nd bet of 3rd level -2
L  -1-1 = -2 Lose on 1st bet of 3rd level -4
L  -3-3 = -6 Lose on 2nd bet of 3rd level -10
L  -9-9 = -18 Lose on 3rd bet of 3rd level -28
L  -1-1 = -2  Lose on 1st bet of 4th level -30
W  +3-3 = +3  Win on 2nd bet of 4th level -27
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 4th level -26
L   -1-1 = -2  Lose on 1st bet of 4th level -28

This sequence had 10 wins and 12 losses which is a very bad run when betting double dozens.  Normal W/L should have been 14 wins vs 8 losses.  Never the less, we're only at -28 units and we just lost 4 in a row which, had you been playing per 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27 would have put you down -80 units.  -80 plus 10 units for the 10 wins we had = -70.

So, even though we are at -28, we're still way ahead of -70. 

The real strength of the progression is if you're playing 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27  81-81 and you happen to have a loss of 5 in a row or 6 in a row and you're on level 2.  You would have the following: 

-1-1  L  1st bet of level 2     -2
-3-3  L  2nd bet of level 2    -8
-1-1  L  1st bet of level 3     -10
-3-3  L  2nd bet of level 3    -16
-9-9  L  3rd bet of level 3    -34

Verses the normal progression for double dozens:

-1-1   -2
-3-3   -8
-9-9   -26
-27-27  -80
-81-81  -242

There is always a possibility that you will have such a bad losing stretch of bets that you keep dropping down levels until you get to the 5th or 6th level and then have an even worse run and lose 6 or 7 in a row, but this is so rare, it might be worth the gamble for some people that it won't happen often enough to wipe you out.

Thanks for asking the question.  It gives me an opportunity to bring out the strengths and weaknesses of this progression.  And believe me, every progression has its own strengths and weaknesses.  None are foolproof.

This progression, in my humble opinion, gives us a very good chance to make some decent profits except for the very worst of situations.

This progression will not be for every one.  But it's here for your consideration.

George

[Robeenhuut]

Level 1 = 1-1
Level 2 = 1-1  3-3
Level 3 = 1-1  3-3  9-9
Level 4 = 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27
Level 5 = 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27  81-81
Level 6 = 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27  81-81  243-243

Above W/L sequence:
L   -1-1  =-2  Lose on 1st level  -2
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 2nd level  -1
L  -1-1 = -2  Lose on 1st bet of 2nd level   -3
L  -3-3 = -6  Lose on 2nd bet of 2nd level  -9
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 3rd level  -8
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 3rd level  -7
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 3rd level  -6
L   -1-1 = -2 Lose on 1st bet of 3rd level -8
L   -3-3 = -6 Lose on 2nd bet of 3rd level -14
W  +9-9 = +9  Win on 3rd bet of 3rd level -5
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 3rd level -4
L   -1-1  = -2  Lose on 1st bet of 3rd level -6
W  +3-3  = +3  Win on 2nd bet of 3rd level -3
L  -1-1  = -2  Lose on 1st bet of 3rd level -5
W  +3-3 = +3  Win on 2nd bet of 3rd level -2
L  -1-1 = -2 Lose on 1st bet of 3rd level -4
L  -3-3 = -6 Lose on 2nd bet of 3rd level -10
L  -9-9 = -18 Lose on 3rd bet of 3rd level -28
L  -1-1 = -2  Lose on 1st bet of 4th level -30
W  +3-3 = +3  Win on 2nd bet of 4th level -27
W  +1-1 = +1  Win on 1st bet of 4th level -26
L   -1-1 = -2  Lose on 1st bet of 4th level -28

This sequence had 10 wins and 12 losses which is a very bad run when betting double dozens.  Normal W/L should have been 14 wins vs 8 losses.  Never the less, we're only at -28 units and we just lost 4 in a row which, had you been playing per 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27 would have put you down -80 units.  -80 plus 10 units for the 10 wins we had = -70.

So, even though we are at -28, we're still way ahead of -70. 

The real strength of the progression is if you're playing 1-1  3-3  9-9  27-27  81-81 and you happen to have a loss of 5 in a row or 6 in a row and you're on level 2.  You would have the following: 

-1-1  L  1st bet of level 2     -2
-3-3  L  2nd bet of level 2    -8
-1-1  L  1st bet of level 3     -10
-3-3  L  2nd bet of level 3    -16
-9-9  L  3rd bet of level 3    -34

Verses the normal progression for double dozens:

-1-1   -2
-3-3   -8
-9-9   -26
-27-27  -80
-81-81  -242

There is always a possibility that you will have such a bad losing stretch of bets that you keep dropping down levels until you get to the 5th or 6th level and then have an even worse run and lose 6 or 7 in a row, but this is so rare, it might be worth the gamble for some people that it won't happen often enough to wipe you out.

Thanks for asking the question.  It gives me an opportunity to bring out the strengths and weaknesses of this progression.  And believe me, every progression has its own strengths and weaknesses.  None are foolproof.

This progression, in my humble opinion, gives us a very good chance to make some decent profits except for the very worst of situations.

This progression will not be for every one.  But it's here for your consideration.

George

Yeah George. I know you are guru here on any progression.  But in simple English it comes down to BBB factor in roulette..... BR,Balls and Belief. If one factor is missing you are screwed. You have to have enough BR and Balls to have Belief that you can avoid RFH.  Still i think that flat betting is the way to go but of course not with double dozens 

[mattymattz]

Hey GLC,

while this progression seems safer than the normal 1-1,3-3,9-9,27-27,etc progression, I don't think it is.  Look at the following example.

LLWLLLWLLLLWLLLWLLLLLLL


While the regular progression listed above would have won every step but the last, your stepped progression would have lost more.  Just something I noticed.

MM

[GLC]

Hey GLC,

while this progression seems safer than the normal 1-1,3-3,9-9,27-27,etc progression, I don't think it is.  Look at the following example.

LLWLLLWLLLLWLLLWLLLLLLL


While the regular progression listed above would have won every step but the last, your stepped progression would have lost more.  Just something I noticed.

MM

Very true.

But, I can show you sequences where mine would have won more.

[mattymattz]

Very true.

But, I can show you sequences where mine would have won more.

I wouldn't doubt it 

[Bcboilermaker]

hello warrior.

im playing this method with a 5 step progression playing the safe way waiting for a virtual loss on the line the to start betting.
i have a question about how you track/ play zero. i understand if it zero comes up it your betting progression you count it as a lost......but what i would like to know is how it is tracked after a loss has occured on the first line of betting...
primarily if zero was to land where you would be retracking for the first "dozens" column in a line

example

1a1b  2b3c  3c1b
          2b3c
1a2c
          0
 
here would you just record the zero and then record the next 3 spins? and just continue tracking as normal, and wait for the  "second" dozen to come up in its places and then finish the last 3 steps of the progression?

or if  zero comes up in this scenario,

1a1b   2b3c   3c1b
           2b3c
1a0



also im fairly new to this and i just want to firmly understand your method so i dont run into scenario where im guessing what to do.

thanks