The 5/7 Angle for EC

[atlantis]

Betting using "cycle of 7 bets" method.
I've been trying this on NOZERO roulette....

TRIGGERS to start betting:

Wait until you see 5 "chops" in a row e.g.: RBRBRB  or BRBRBR and then start betting "Same
As Last Colour" seven times in succession for 1u.
After the seven bets STOP.

OR

Wait until you see a run of 5 colours e.g.: RRRRR or BBBBB and then start betting "Opposite of
Last Colour" seven times in succession for 1u.
After the seven spins STOP.


After the cycle of seven bets is complete assess the bank.

If in plus overall with new highest bankroll total; wait for next trigger and reduce to 1u.

If in plus and higher than last cycle of 7 - but still behind highest bank figure overall ; wait for
next trigger and play at same unit value.

If in negative and less than last cycle result; wait for next trigger and play next cycle at 1u
higher.

Sometimes after a cycle of seven bets is complete you can immediately begin a new cycle...
(for instance if you complete a cycle and see that the last 5 results were the same colour or if
the last 5 results have been chops)

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B - L1
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B - W1
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R - L1
R - L1        -1        =  -1 (inc to 2u)
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R - 5 reds so play opposite last
B - W2
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B - W2
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R - L2
B - W2   +6         = +5 (dec to 1u)
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B - 5 blacks so play opposite last
B - L1
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B - W1
B - L1
R - W1
B - W1
R - W1   +3        = +8 (stay at 1u)
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B - L1
B - W1
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R - W1
R - W1
B - L1
B - W1     +1       = +9 (stay at 1u)
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R - 5 chops so play same as last
R - W1
R - W1
R - W1
R - W1
B - L1
B - W1
R - L1       +5      = +14 (stay at 1u)
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R - 5 reds so play opposite of last
B - W1
B - L1
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B - L1
R - W1
R - L1
B - W1     -1        = +13 (inc to 2u)
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B - 5 blacks so play opposite last
R - W2
R - L2
B - W2
R - W2
B - W2
R - W2
B - W2        +10     = +23 (dec to 1u)
   - 5 chops so play same as last
R - L1
R - W1
R - W1
R - W1
R - W1
R - W1
R - W1         +6    = +29 (stay at 1u)
    - 5 reds so play opposite last
B - W1
B - L1
B - L1
R - W1
R - L1
R - L1
B - W1          -1   = +28 (inc to 2u)
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B - L2
B - W2
R - L2
B - L2
B - W2
R - L2
R - W2     -2        = +26 (inc to 3u)
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B - W3
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B - W3
B - L3
B - L3
R - W3
B - W3     +9    = +35 (dec to 1u)
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R - W1
R - L1
R - L1
R - L1
B - W1
R - W1
B - W1     +1      = +36 (stay at 1u)
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B - 5 chops so play same as last
B - W1
B - W1
R - L1
B - L1
R - L1
R - W1
R - W1    +1      = +37 (stay at 1u)
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B - W1
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B - W1
B - W1
R - L1
R - W1      +1       = +38 (stay at 1u)
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R - W1
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R - L1
B - W1
R - W1
R - L1
B - W1       +1         =+39 (stay at 1u)
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B - 5 chops so play same as last
B - W1
B - W1
R - L1
B - L1
R - L1
R - W1
B - L1         -1          = +38 (inc to 2u)
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R - 5 chops so play same as last
R - W2
R - W2
R - W2
B - L2
R - L2
R - W2
B - L2        +2        =  +40 (dec to 1u)
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B - W1
R - W1
R - L1
B - W1
R - W1
R - L1
B - W1      +3        = +43 (stay at 1u)
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500 spins.
+43

Flatbetting at 1u instead of progression in each cycle produced an overall profit of +26
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Good luck,
A.

[atlantis]

Here are the same results but this time a much more cautious approach is adopted.
If a new overall profit is attained within the "cycle of 7" the betting is stopped and no more bets are made for the rest of that cycle.
The below example should make clear.

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nb = no bet

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R - W1      +1        = +1
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B - W1      +1          = +2
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B - L1
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B - W1      +1            = +3
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B - L1
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R - W1
R - W1         +1        = +4
B - nb
B - nb
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R - W1        +1         = +5
R - nb
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B - W1       +1            = +6
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R - W1           +1        = +7
R - nb
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B - nb
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R - L1
R - W1
R - W1          +1         = +8
R - nb
R - nb
R - nb
R - nb
    - 5 reds so play opposite last
B - W1           +1           = +9
B - nb
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B - L1
B - W1
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B - W1
R - L1
R - W1     -1         = +8 (inc to 2u)
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B - W2         +2            = +10 (dec to 1u)
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R - W1         +1         = +11
R - nb
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B - 5 chops so play same as last
B - W1         +1          = +12
B - nb
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B - W1         +1          = +13
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R - W1           +1        = +14
R - nb
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B - 5 chops so play same as last
B - W1           +1      = +15
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R - W1            +1      = +16
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B - W1         +1         = +17
R - nb
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500 spins.
+17
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[buffalowizard]

Great stuff Atlantis.


Nice and simple to play, not too strenuous. How much testing have you had of this?


Cheers

[atlantis]

Hi BW,
Well it is certainly early days with this one. So far only 7 sessions of 500 spins- but all profitable! 
Can be slow going; but consider with separate bank you could also track the O/E or H/L as well to maybe get more bet opps if it is not too confusing, that is. LoL
A.

[Drazen]

You can win many sessions as you want this way.


This is way how this game should be played.


I tested more than 50 wiesbaden sessions this way before and won all.


Anyway i add few more EC bets so i had 5-6 but it depends for each one how many he can track at once and rotating them whenever in new plus or after 5 losing bets.


Rinse and repeat


Very simple and profitable without much stress and risk.


Regards


Drazen

[atlantis]

Hi drazen,
Wow! Thanks for the info and sharing your experience. It is very gratifying to know that maybe on right track with this and not wasting time  - so will continue to do further trials when I can.
A.

[Robeenhuut]

Hello

I have not checked chops betting option but for repeats its better to reset if ahead.
BBBBBRBBBBB it can happen quite often. Of course once in a while you will get 10 or more
repeats in a row and you will fall behind. But its roulette. But it needs more testing. In my live spins
i have sets of 185 spins where basically you win all series betting and some with longer series of repeats where there is a grind and you lose most sessions.

Regards

[atlantis]

I have not checked chops betting option but for repeats its better to reset if ahead.
BBBBBRBBBBB it can happen quite often. Of course once in a while you will get 10 or more
repeats in a row and you will fall behind. But its roulette. But it needs more testing. In my live spins
I have sets of 185 spins where basically you win all series betting and some with longer series of repeats where there is a grind and you lose most sessions.

Hi Robeenhuut,
Agreed about the reset. A more optimum way and speeds things up a little is to play the "cautious" way as shown above but once ahead in the cycle forget playing out the cycle virtually with the "no bets" (nb) and instead immediately look to bet on the next trigger...
A session played that way this morning on BVNoZero was very easy and relaxing to play and gained +10 profit in abt 10-15  mins (using auto fastspin feature)
It is very very easy to spot the triggers on the BV roulette marquee and then quickly turn off autospin to begin placing the cycle of max 7 bets, and you don't even have to do any writing/tracking or recording on paper etc.
But as you said this is roulette, whether rng or real, and we must be careful with back to back long series of repeats.

A.

[atlantis]

Played the "cautious way " session at SLC autoroulette using a snapshot of the 'Last 185 spins' this morning.

Playing Red/Black EC only.

Result = +4 profit

Highest bet=2u (once only)

There were 5 opportunities in the sequence to bet - therefore 5 cycles of betting.
4 wins occurred on the first leg of 4 of the cycles
1 loss of -1 after the 7th (last) leg of 1 cycle.

+1, +1, +1, -1, +2  = +4u

I'm happy with that result.

Note there were 6 0's in the sequence - only 1 of which affected a betting cycle.

This system would need to be played with faster spins as is too slow otherwise and my preference is for BVNoZero.

A.

[Tomla021]

Couldnt you bet this against the last 5 in general rrbrr bet bbrbbrbb. If you do well on the first 4 (say win 3 lose 1) look back and reset? In general just betting that the patterns will change?

[albertojonas]

Couldnt you bet this against the last 5 in general rrbrr bet bbrbbrbb. If you do well on the first 4 (say win 3 lose 1) look back and reset? In general just betting that the patterns will change?

except that you play against a pattern of 12... statistically once in 2000 spins =)

[Tomla021]

I understand that... on no quick win situations I would play out the 7 attempts---sort of a moving bet, moving situation thing

[atlantis]

Just returning to this system with another slant.

Regarding the chops (singlets) - I still look for 5 in a row and then bet for series but ONCE ONLY. If no win occurs then I WAIT until series forms and restart looking for 5 chops in a row again.

EXAMPLE: R B R B R B - bet here on B - R (lost) B R R (restart 5 in a row count)

Regarding the series sequences - I now look for minimum 3 series in a row to form sequentially and then bet against a 4th series forming - again I only bet ONCE ONLY. If no win happens I wait for the next chop and then immediately continue to bet ONCE ONLY against series forming. I continue this until win.

EXAMPLE: R R R B B R R R B - bet against B - B(lost) B R - bet against R - B (won)

You can flatbet (or use a mild progression in which case it may be preferable to have separate bankrolls for the chop and series betting)

I will start by using basic 1,2,4,8,16 (31u) progression on each side but please feel free to suggest other EC progressions that might be better or that you prefer.

EXAMPLE
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12R
8B
15B
13B
2B
35B
1R
9R
14R
10B
6B
6B
6B
33B
4B
12R  - bet against series
20B  - WON1   +1
32R
23R
11B
33B
33B
25R
18R
10B - bet against series
17B - LOST1    +0   
29B
29B
17B
4B
29B
15B
10B
35B
31B
6B
26B
7R  - bet against series
16R  - LOST2      -2
25R
12R
3R
20B - bet against series
16R - WON4        +2
3R
28B
30R
25R
32R
5R
29B
5R
31B
10B
23R
7R
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13B
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15B
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3R
1R
32R
10B
13B
6B
27R - bet against series
17B - WON1     +3
1R
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9R
1R
36R
15B
11B
19R
15B
29B
26B
18R
27R
11B
9R
15B
6B
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16R
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1R
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20B
10B
26B
18R
20B
25R
13B
28B
1R
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8B
35B
34R - bet against series
21R - LOST1       +2           
20B - bet against series
32R - WON2          +4
17B
22B
20B
10B
14R
21R
28B
35B
12R - bet against series
2B - WON1             +5
20B
1R
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10B
27R
36R
2B
8B
22B
4B
16R
20B
32R
25R
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12R
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19R
3R
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13B
27R
29B
12R
19R
15B
11B
30R
21R
5R
4B - bet against series
18R - WON1       +6
31B
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12R
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30R
12R
13B
20B
5R
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1R
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2B
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4B - bet FOR series
20B - WON1         +7
31B
30R
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15B
7R
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36R
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28B
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2B
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33B
21R
25R
19R
8B
18R
11B
18R
35B - bet FOR series
17B - WON1         +8
9R
19R
35B
25R
26B
1R
26B - bet FOR series
27R - LOST1          +7
8B
19R
25R
11B
26B
2B
17B
5R
8B
28B
5R
7R
35B
10B
2B
16R - bet against series
16R - LOST1           +6
12R
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30R
11B - bet against series
18R - WON2            +8 **level so reset both sides prog.
22B
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5R
2B
6B
16R - bet against series
28B - WON1            +9
27R
5R
30R
5R
8B
8B
27R
34R
3R
27R
11B - bet against series
21R - WON1            +10
2B
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9R
12R
23R
35B
19R
20B
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21R
6B
36R
9R
16R
6B
11B
33B
12R
35B
27R
19R
19R
35B
1R
36R
21R
19R
24B
5R
6B
24B
34R
15B
33B
11B
25R
29B
7R
16R
35B
18R
35B
16R
13B - bet FOR series
17B - WON1      +11 
FlatBetting = +7

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[Drazen]

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[Robeenhuut]

Hello

it makes sense. Its very rare 2 see  10 chops in a row but 5 chops in a row are also not that common. As 4 series i think that longer than 3 they happen about once every 20 spins based on my data from live spins on SML. Its just a matter of patience.

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