opinions please

[Skakus]

If you really did have a guaranteed 2% edge then that means you couldn't lose in the long run. Things won't turn around. Problem is that the only way to guarantee it is to prove it mathematically, and since it's already proved mathematically that you CAN'T get a positive expectation, you're always going to wonder how long your edge will last, and how solid it is based purely on past results (in other words, if it's based on past results, it ain't guaranteed).

Well that's the end of that then. Thanks Bayes.

So a guaranteed 2% edge is good enough to play professionally, but a sizable bankroll is needed unless you can afford to reinvest any winnings by way of increased stakes, which presents its own problems.

Good luck.

[Johnlegend]

If you could absolutely 100% guarantee a long term 2% edge over roulette by flat betting would that be enough for you to take up semi or full time play?

You would need an average total wager of $10,000 to earn $200. Seems like a lot for a little but don’t forget, it’s a guaranteed profit.


You could expect to bet anywhere from $6000 to $14,000 on any session you play.

If you stepped it up to $30,000 then you’d earn $600 a day.

Bigger table limits and the sky’s the limit!

Do you think casinos would notice someone skimming off such a small %?

Nice thought but its not realistic Skakus for the average Joe. What they want is something that can make a tidy profit without a huge outlay/risk. If I told you you could take a 100 units and make it grow to 1000 plus in one month would you be interested?

[TwoCatSam]

If I told you you could take a 100 units and make it grow to 1000 plus in one month would you be interested?

I am very interested!  Open a thread on how to do this and I will be your front-row student.

Sam
   

[Johnlegend]

If I told you you could take a 100 units and make it grow to 1000 plus in one month would you be interested?

I am very interested!  Open a thread on how to do this and I will be your front-row student.

Sam
   

I cant I know the way but its not my baby. Its up to Wolfat or Atlantis to author this method. I want to call it CODE 4 REVERSE ATTACK. But I will tell you this now. Played properly 100 units to a 1000 in a calendar month is the WORST you will do. Its the end of roulette if enough people had the right mind to get hold of this one. Fortunately they wont. But all who play this right. Are going to do very, very nicely.

[GARNabby]

Played properly 100 units to a 1000 in a calendar month is the WORST you will do.

Emphasis on the "played properly" part of that spiel.  Sounds like Ellis Davis "junk", from BTC.

By the way, Ellis uses the username "wolfat".

[Johnlegend]

Emphasis on the "played properly" part of that spiel.  Sounds like Ellis Davis "junk", from BTC.

By the way, Ellis uses the username "wolfat".

Is that supposed to mean something to me? ? I make a statement from my own analysis no-one elses. Negative pessimists like yourself I avoid like the plague. You will be whinging it can't be done 20 years from now. I know what is possible with the reverse CODE 4 because I have enough experience and a years playing experience with CODE 4 to know it will stand up. BY PROPERLY. I of course mean in controlled short bursts. The same reason 80 units could turn a profit will be the same reason a daily risk of half that much will turn a profit. Hence why I say a bank of 100 units will very realistically make 1000 units plus in 30 days.

The difference is the TURNOVER. It will be a lot faster. 20% growth PER DAY is more than possible playing 10 short sessions. The results doing so are nothing short of stellar. Breaking up the sessions into two by two play doesn't allow any downturn in randoms ebb and flow to get going and do any real damage. EXAMPLE no three consecutive sessions I can put together show me 6 consecutive losses. There may be 5 losses in the 6 plays but NEVER 6. What I propose requires 1 win in 6 to show positive results. And this is going to occur virually all the time. Is that starting to register with you. Probably not. But there you go.

[GARNabby]

Negative pessimists like yourself I avoid like the plague.

Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names could drive me crazy?  Can you not accept the simple fact that not every one of us here thinks your "roulette claims" are sound, let alone not plain-crazy?  Where did i attempt to stereotype and insult you, personally?  Even Einstein made plenty of major mistakes which were debated by others; and not all of those were even honest ones.  But i wouldn't, nay don't have to, comment upon the man, himself.  Not to imply that, eg, someone who shows the proper symptoms of a delusion shouldn't be called a delusional.  Such persons do exist, you know, even here.

At least, Einstein, for one, showed us "the beef".  And until you, yourself, do likewise, you haven't made even your first mistake. 

You will be whining it can't be done 20 years from now.

My book will be out by then, for all to judge.  Where will you be, Mr. Legend?  Still in your own mind, i think.  Till then, idiotic "claims" with substance won't do.  Perhaps that's where all the patience and discipline figure in?  Stay on a real course.

I know what is possible with the reverse CODE 4 because I have enough experience and a years playing experience with CODE 4 to know it will stand up. BY PROPERLY. I of course mean in controlled short bursts. The same reason 80 units could turn a profit will be the same reason a daily risk of half that much will turn a profit. Hence why I say a bank of 100 units will very realistically make 1000 units plus in 30 days.

100 --> 1000 --> 10,000 --> 100,000 --> 1 million dollars, after the 4th month!  That's lalaland.  Like computer simulations of a 0.5% overall edge amounting to millionaires.  Where are they all?

And this is going to occur virually all the time.

No.  What does happen every few months is that another delusional/scammer pops up with a fake username and a made-up past.  Mr. Perfect Player who won each and every time he ever played.  A real "nice guy" with all the simplistic "answers".  Another stranger with a phone, and a lot of really-free time to himself.

I mean, the guys with "half a brain" should be trying to do more good than harm, here by not "selling out" the ones without any clue.  (The rich can't help themselves.  Unless they're so-rich that not even money matters to them, the "whales".)

Is that starting to register with you. Probably not. But there you go.

Nobody ran away.  I replied again.  Garbage in warrants garbage out.

[Johnlegend]

Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names could drive me crazy?  Can you not accept the simple fact that not every one of us here thinks your "roulette claims" are sound, let alone not plain-crazy?  Where did i attempt to stereotype and insult you, personally?  Even Einstein made plenty of major mistakes which were debated by others; and not all of those were even honest ones.  But i wouldn't, nay don't have to, comment upon the man, himself.  Not to imply that, e.g., someone who shows the proper symptoms of a delusion shouldn't be called a delusional.  Such persons do exist, you know, even here.

At least, Einstein, for one, showed us "the beef".  And until you, yourself, do likewise, you haven't made even your first mistake. 
 
My book will be out by then, for all to judge.  Where will you be, Mr. Legend?  Still in your own mind, i think.  Till then, idiotic "claims" with substance won't do.  Perhaps that's where all the patience and discipline figure in?  Stay on a real course.
 
100 --> 1000 --> 10,000 --> 100,000 --> 1 million dollars, after the 4th month!  That's lalaland.  Like computer simulations of a 0.5% overall edge amounting to millionaires.  Where are they all?
 
No.  What does happen every few months is that another delusional/scammer pops up with a fake username and a made-up past.  Mr. Perfect Player who won each and every time he ever played.  A real "nice guy" with all the simplistic "answers".  Another stranger with a phone, and a lot of really-free time to himself.

I mean, the guys with "half a brain" should be trying to do more good than harm, here by not "selling out" the ones without any clue.  (The rich can't help themselves.  Unless they're so-rich that not even money matters to them, the "whales".)
Nobody ran away.  I replied again.  Garbage in warrants garbage out.

Like I said negative pessimist. Your response justified the term to perfection. Perfect player? Theres no such thing. Smart player yes. I will let you stay in the dark. Only a certain mindset was ever made to best this game. You can stay with the 99.9 percent who follow the crowd. And think roultte is a losing option. Mine is not to waste my time on such closed books. The mindset is either there or it isnt.

[iggiv]

i believe John. Some kind of feeling tells me he is not lying.

[superman]

Some kind of feeling tells me he is not lying

I think I believe him too, hes been peddling the same hype for a long time, shame nobody else can get the same results as him, thats what mistifies everyone, although his words can mislead many, "turning random on its head", "random can't compete" etc etc random cannot be changed, he's one lucky fella if it's not all BS that is

[Robeenhuut]

I think I believe him too, he's been peddling the same hype for a long time, shame nobody else can get the same results as him, that's what mistifies everyone, although his words can mislead many, "turning random on its head", "random can't compete" etc etc random cannot be changed, he's one lucky fella if it's not all BS that is
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If you play method with 1/81 odds just the way he plays its possible to achieve strike rate much better than your odds. Our friend Bayes can say something about it.
What bothers most people is mostly too much hype about his methods. They should be treated with caution.

[albertojonas]

progressions used are nonsense.
and there is no such thing as 1/81 odds

[Colbster]

If I told you that Dozen 2 would come up for four consecutive spins, I would have a 1/81 chance of getting it right.  (1/3)^4. 

[Johnlegend]

I think I believe him too, he's been peddling the same hype for a long time, shame nobody else can get the same results as him, that's what mistifies everyone, although his words can mislead many, "turning random on its head", "random can't compete" etc etc random cannot be changed, he's one lucky fella if it's not all BS that is

Superman I am not the only player to attain success with the methods I use. I've had players PM to tell me of theirs One tonight And I have asked him to come on here and share it with you all. I have nothing to gain making up stories using mostly other peoples methods. I may overhype something but ONLY. If I know it works.And the missing ingredient as Bayes puts it is SIMPLE. PLAY EXACTLY AS I PLAY. Then my success will be no mystery to you or anyone. Very few if any are A, playing exactly as I outline. And B, staying with it long enough to attain the numbers. And you know that's the truth Superman.

When 10 people on these boards all do that and none of them come close to my figures. You will never hear another word from me.

[albertojonas]

If I told you that Dozen 2 would come up for four consecutive spins, I would have a 1/81 chance of getting it right.  (1/3)^4.

it is ok for 4 spins.