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Is my online casino cheating?

Started by frogger100, May 19, 02:10 PM 2012

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frogger100

I think my online casino is cheating.I have played roulette at casino's all over the UK,and in Europe,so i know how the game works.I also know it can throw up strange number sequences that sometimes makes you feel that the game is fixed,but while playing on my internet casino something weird is happening.I place bets covering 30 of the 37 numbers,over 10 spins,changing the 30 numbers each time,and everytime i lost!I then just covered 18 numbers over 10 spins,and only won on 4 spins,and despite putting a few pounds on numbers,only won with the numbers i had 25p on.But the most puzzling thing of all was,as the wheel was spinning(a live wheel) the winning number graphic appeared on my screen saying Winning number 2,but the wheel was still spinning and the ball was still rolling,it cirlced the wheel 2 or 3 more times before dropping into number 2!I hadnt covered that number,and was livid.I emailed the casino,and they said it was my computer latency,and that it was running out of sync with the game,but thats rubbish,as when i place my bets a clock was counting down and i bet right up to the no more bet signal.Also every other spin id bet on the noise from the ball spinning and dropping was in sync with the video.I have felt for a while that this casino cheats,but am now convinced.There are times i get the impression that no matter where i place my bets the ball will land in a number i havent got.This isnt me being a bad loser,as ive said ive played in casinos all over the place so know how they work.
The casino in question is Supercasino.com,i closed my account down with them 6 months ago telling them i'd lost confidence in them and felt they were cheating.I then opened an account with Jackpot247,on Friday last week,not realizing that they were part of the Supercasino company.Since friday i have bet £80 over 2 nights,and on every spin,again putting £1 and £2's on numbers only won on numbers i had 25p on!Over 10 spins the numbers went 32,32,23,24,32,24,9,17,23,32! I put £2 on odd,£2 on red,£2 on first and 2nd dozen,and £2 on 1st and 2nd column,and it came in black 28!I consider myself an experienced roulette player,but come on!this is strange.
I have closed down that account now,and will stick to real casinos!

hoper335

"Who ya jivin' with that Cosmik Debris?" - F.  Z.

TwoCatSam

Since you can play at any on-line casino, why would you not play at Dublinbet?  Sometimes you can actually see them place the puck and pay the winner.
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

dino246

One way of testing is to have someone else with their own computer /account and play at the same time as you at the same casino THEN COMPARE RESULTS !
Hope this helps.

downthehatch

Quote from: frogger100 on May 19, 02:10 PM 2012
I think my online casino is cheating.I have played roulette at casino's all over the UK,and in Europe,so i know how the game works.I also know it can throw up strange number sequences that sometimes makes you feel that the game is fixed,but while playing on my internet casino something weird is happening.I place bets covering 30 of the 37 numbers,over 10 spins,changing the 30 numbers each time,and everytime i lost!I then just covered 18 numbers over 10 spins,and only won on 4 spins,and despite putting a few pounds on numbers,only won with the numbers i had 25p on.But the most puzzling thing of all was,as the wheel was spinning(a live wheel) the winning number graphic appeared on my screen saying Winning number 2,but the wheel was still spinning and the ball was still rolling,it cirlced the wheel 2 or 3 more times before dropping into number 2!I hadnt covered that number,and was livid.I emailed the casino,and they said it was my computer latency,and that it was running out of sync with the game,but that's nonsense,as when i place my bets a clock was counting down and i bet right up to the no more bet signal.Also every other spin id bet on the noise from the ball spinning and dropping was in sync with the video.I have felt for a while that this casino cheats,but am now convinced.There are times i get the impression that no matter where i place my bets the ball will land in a number i haven't got.This isnt me being a bad loser,as I've said I've played in casinos all over the place so know how they work.
The casino in question is Supercasino.com,i closed my account down with them 6 months ago telling them i'd lost confidence in them and felt they were cheating.I then opened an account with Jackpot247,on Friday last week,not realizing that they were part of the Supercasino company.Since friday i have bet £80 over 2 nights,and on every spin,again putting £1 and £2's on numbers only won on numbers i had 25p on!Over 10 spins the numbers went 32,32,23,24,32,24,9,17,23,32! I put £2 on odd,£2 on red,£2 on first and 2nd dozen,and £2 on 1st and 2nd column,and it came in black 28!I consider myself an experienced roulette player,but come on!this is strange.
I have closed down that account now,and will stick to real casinos!
e

but what makes you think that sequence of numbers is unusual ?? over a period of billions of spins its quite normal!! the other week i watched 15 spun 8 times in the first 15 spins i watched (including a triple and a double hit within 7 spins

yesterday i was playing a basic dozens system and won on the 10th bet, this was after waiting for my chosen dozen NOT to appear for at least 10 spins, so that dozen actually did not appear for 19 spins, even though 'theory' says that dozen should spin every 3 to 4 spins !

your bad luck was 'being there' when your sequence occurred

Cheers

Robeenhuut

Quote from: downthehatch on May 21, 09:44 AM 2012
e

but what makes you think that sequence of numbers is unusual ?? over a period of billions of spins its quite normal!! the other week i watched 15 spun 8 times in the first 15 spins i watched (including a triple and a double hit within 7 spins

yesterday i was playing a basic dozens system and won on the 10th bet, this was after waiting for my chosen dozen NOT to appear for at least 10 spins, so that dozen actually did not appear for 19 spins, even though 'theory' says that dozen should spin every 3 to 4 spins !

your bad luck was 'being there' when your sequence occurred

Cheers

32 hit 4 times? Hehe if it slept for at least 30 spins before then you would win if you knew RWD betting system  ;D   And with dozens please dont bet until you see it sleep for at least more than 17 spins. It routinely sleeps for over 20 spins. Good bet is bet against more then 25 times although 32 is i guess the record  :(

Regards
Matt

TwoCatSam

dino has the idea..........

A guy named Diarmaid once went to Fitzwilliam Casino to check on the wheel.  (He was Irish and lived close.)  The feed to Dublin Bet on-line is 100% accurate, according to him.

Which begs my original question.........

Sam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Robeenhuut

Quote from: TwoCatSam on May 21, 11:00 AM 2012
dino has the idea..........

A guy named Diarmaid once went to Fitzwilliam Casino to check on the wheel.  (He was Irish and lived close.)  The feed to Dublin Bet on-line is 100% accurate, according to him.

Which begs my original question.........

Sam

Ask the casino 2 put on a tv set and broadcast some live event  >:(
Matt

TwoCatSam

rob

That is a great idea, and one used to do it.  However, it was some station in Bumphuct, Egypt and I could not get it.

Since Fox News is almost universal--I hope--that would be a good one!!!

Yep...

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Robeenhuut

Quote from: TwoCatSam on May 21, 11:25 AM 2012
rob

That is a great idea, and one used to do it.  However, it was some station in Bumphuct, Egypt and I could not get it.

Since Fox News is almost universal--I hope--that would be a good one!!!

Yep...

Sam

Hehe Keep It Simple Sam 
Matt

Turner

Frogger,

i quite often sit with William Hill live roulette running and place the numbers into RX and play (as if live) on RX. Some really horrendous things happen like 19 reds in a row, and a dozen not showing for 22 hits. No repeat in 21....7 comes out 4 times in a row. I'm not even placing bets on so it can't be rigged against me personally. I have no proof it isnt rigged, but on those occasions, It wasn't personal.

The problem usually is the evil head that takes you over, and makes you do things you didn't plan, like continuing past your stop-loss etc.

When hit bad, you have to ask questions of your self...not the roulette table.

Did I veer from the system. Did I carry on past where I said I would stop-loss. Did I go back after a win that I decided would do for that night.

You will be amazed how you messed it up on most occasions by being naughty and not doing as you are told.

Listen to the sensible guy who is "you" just before you place a chip



Robeenhuut

The "cheating" intended or unintended happens when they dont accept your bets and your money does not go back to your account or if you hit confirm button and your bets are not accepted.
If you play online be prepared to be cut off if you play any progression because they have a maintenance and so on. If you play long enough that will happen for sure sooner or later.
Never had any suspicion about any numbers spun unless i see all 37 numbers spun in 37 spins  ;D

Regards
Matt

downthehatch

Quote from: turnerfeck on May 21, 11:57 AM 2012
Frogger,

i quite often sit with William Hill live roulette running and place the numbers into RX and play (as if live) on RX. Some really horrendous things happen like 19 reds in a row, and a dozen not showing for 22 hits. No repeat in 21....7 comes out 4 times in a row. I'm not even placing bets on so it can't be rigged against me personally. I have no proof it isnt rigged, but on those occasions, It wasn't personal.

The problem usually is the evil head that takes you over, and makes you do things you didn't plan, like continuing past your stop-loss etc.

When hit bad, you have to ask questions of your self...not the roulette table.

Did I veer from the system. Did I carry on past where I said I would stop-loss. Did I go back after a win that I decided would do for that night.

You will be amazed how you messed it up on most occasions by being naughty and not doing as you are told.

Listen to the sensible guy who is "you" just before you place a chip


thats it, thats been me and millions like me to a tee, and its why casinos dony need to cheat

ive been playing smart live casino lately also just watching the play on the live net feed (that becomes tv later in the evening. It shows what players are betting and why they have no need to cheat. Many are covering vast areas of the table, some betting over £1000 to win perhaps 2 to 300

yesterday one guy bet £4,500 on black, 2nd dozen, 19-36 and 2nd and 3rd column only for 3 red to hit and lost the lot, perhaps some 'backwoods' casinos may cheat but not reputable casino/gambling sites, will hill, bet 365 etc etc

'unusual' events, sequences of this that or the other are not unusual, its our own narrow time span/ vision that is limited.

dino246

Interesting to note on both Smart Live and Supercasino that the FUN players are on the table with the REAL-MONEY players at the same time with all the bets mixed in.
I believe this to be the case or does anyone know different ?

downthehatch

Quote from: Robeenhuut on May 21, 10:39 AM 2012
32 hit 4 times? Hehe if it slept for at least 30 spins before then you would win if you knew RWD betting system  ;D   And with dozens please don't bet until you see it sleep for at least more than 17 spins. It routinely sleeps for over 20 spins. Good bet is bet against more then 25 times although 32 is i guess the record  :(

Regards
Hi i wonder if you could elaborate on that 'bet against 25 etc"  Do you mean betting on say dozen 2 and 3 if dozen 1 has not appeared for numerous times? and what progression would be used?

another bet the other day, started after non appearance after 14 spins, it hit on 20th spin, and in the meantime column C had built up to 15 non appearance, i then bet that and it hit immediately!

just wondered also there is any way of extending a progression for one dozen play? (or i column)

Cheers Dth

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