****CODE 4 REVERSE ATTACK****

[Skakus]

 
I played a game earlier today on dublinbet that I had to wait 30+ spins for the first bet.

It lost, then two spins later they closed the table and just left me hanging there! 

How should I record that result in the official results thread?

[Rolletti]

JL we need clarification how you handle the ZERO

1. While waiting for 2 Triggers

0xxx in the first of all rows - Start with first No after the ZERO?

2xx0 note it down or ignore it completely? like 2xxx

0xxx in one of the next rows - note it down and start over tracking with No after the ZERO or
       ignore it completely?

2. While playing after getting 2 Triggers

xxxx
xxxx
xxxx
xxxx Trigger 1
xxxx Trigger 2
2xx0 Lose - note it down or ignore it completely? like 2xxx
0xxx Lose - in one of the next rows - note it down or ignore it completely?
2xxx Lose
3xxx Lose - for the next bet there would be the row with the ZERO to bet. We skip bet and   
                wait for the next row?
2xxx No bet???
2xxx Bet here again and heuraka we win?

thanks.

[subby]

Dam after reading this a couple of times I still can't get my head around it

Would anyone with 20mins to spare be able to write a ball by ball account of how this works?

I am not getting the trigger bit eg...

xxxx
xxxx
xxxx
xxxx Trigger 1
xxxx Trigger 2


why have 2 triggers? Why not start with one?

a ball by ball written up would be ideal then when I get the basics right I can try and learn the rest

[Johnlegend]

Dam after reading this a couple of times I still can't get my head around it

Would anyone with 20mins to spare be able to write a ball by ball account of how this works?

I am not getting the trigger bit e.g....

xxxx
xxxx
xxxx
xxxx Trigger 1
xxxx Trigger 2


why have 2 triggers? Why not start with one?

a ball by ball written up would be ideal then when I get the basics right I can try and learn the rest

Okay Subby,
The two triggers are required because of my observation over a sample of 7,500 plus games for CODE 4. I only found 11 occurances where it took 9 or more rows to produce a match on the first doZen to the dozen three rows above it. In the meantime there were 456 that fell between 3 and 8. That is how I got the confidence to craft CODE 4 REVERSE ATTACK.

1XXX
2XXX
3XXX
2XXX=TRIGGER 1
1XXX=TRIGGER 2
2XXX=BET 1 LOST-1 UNIT
2XXX=BET 2 WON+3 UNITS STOP GAME over wait for 5 spins or whatever breaks the CYCLE. Contrary to popular belief there doesn't have to be 10 minutes or 5 hours break between games. You simply have to get OFF THE TRACK that random has you on. Otherwise you are heading for a loss. ABSOLUTELY. And highly likely before your profit margin overcomes your risk.

Now using a progression of 1,2,3,5,7,10=28 units risk
We bet on one to six attempts that there will be a match.

I have since found and even more lucrative way to play that 4 wide matrix. But that's for another time.

[TwoCatSam]

"I have since found and even more lucrative way to play that 4 wide matrix. But that's for another time.", said John.


John,

Just ask the casino to send you a check and quit torturing them!

Sam

[Johnlegend]

"I have since found and even more lucrative way to play that 4 wide matrix. But that's for another time.", said John.


John,

Just ask the casino to send you a check and quit torturing them!

Sam

Sam you know its never going to happen. don't join the pessimistic. Put the work in for yourself and you will see for yourself. While you rely on others to test something for you. You will never know the true story. Convince yourself. Like Chauncy47 and a few others have. Then I don't have to say anything you already know it works.

[Robeenhuut]

Okay Subby,
The two triggers are required because of my observation over a sample of 7,500 plus games for CODE 4. I only found 11 occurances where it took 9 or more rows to produce a match on the first doZen to the dozen three rows above it. In the meantime there were 456 that fell between 3 and 8. That is how I got the confidence to craft CODE 4 REVERSE ATTACK.

1XXX
2XXX
3XXX
2XXX=TRIGGER 1
1XXX=TRIGGER 2
2XXX=BET 1 LOST-1 UNIT
2XXX=BET 2 WON+3 UNITS STOP GAME over wait for 5 spins or whatever breaks the CYCLE. Contrary to popular belief there doesn't have to be 10 minutes or 5 hours break between games. You simply have to get OFF THE TRACK that random has you on. Otherwise you are heading for a loss. ABSOLUTELY. And highly likely before your profit margin overcomes your risk.

Now using a progression of 1,2,3,5,7,10=28 units risk
We bet on one to six attempts that there will be a match.

I have since found and even more lucrative way to play that 4 wide matrix. But that's for another time.

Hello John

Im sorry but your numbers dont add up. You claim that only 11 times you would lose a game - it went over 9 steps out of 7500 and 456 times it went between 3 and 9 steps?  It means that your strike rate was around 41/1?  So in more than 7000 games you got a hit within 2 spins.  Lets do the math. Average profit in 1,2 progression is 2.5u and average loss is 3u so we have more or less 16000u profit. Why we bother then with triggers and 6 step progression?
Lets play 2 step progression and we make at least 2u a game 

Regards

[vile]

"I have since found and even more lucrative way to play that 4 wide matrix. But that's for another time.", said John.


John,

Just ask the casino to send you a check and quit torturing them!

Sam

--Remember Compa's secret session on old VLS,Sam?

We did this 3,4,5,6,7,...for and against,up and down,left-right,all poss. kinds.....and what did
gents/including you as a guest/there conclude at the end/several months of testings/neither
combo works,but 7 was the nearest to success.

[TwoCatSam]

--Remember Compa's secret session on old VLS,Sam?

We did this 3,4,5,6,7,...for and against,up and down,left-right,all poss. kinds.....and what did
gents/including you as a guest/there conclude at the end/several months of testings/neither
combo works,but 7 was the nearest to success.

vile

I do not remember.  But then I've forgotten a lot.

Sam
   

[Johnlegend]

John take it easy please. if they wanna tweak let's them tweak, why not? Just let them remember u  warned them.
When they see they are wrong they may be back to your rules. Hopefully there will be no end of the world tomorrow. So don't get so upset.

Iggiv Im not upset. Its just a pity that most people will spend their entire lifes wondering if this game is beatable. Simply because the neccessary self discipline is lacking. I dont say I am perfect Iggiv But I know what I know. It took me many years to get here. I was just like the rest once. Thats the reason and the only reason I push the things I do so hard. I dont say they are the ONLY way to win. But they are most certainly a way to win. And really profit from this game.
If Ive even helped one person to do that. Then Ive achieved something. And I know Ive helped a few. The thing is this iggiv. I can give you a winning method. But I cant give you the mindset to follow it. Thats up to you. The people who have it naturaly are going to be winners for the rest of their lives. The ones that dont will be system hopping for the rest of their days. As we know it takes all kinds. All extremes must exist.

[iggiv]

John u r a good man. Thanx for everything. If someone really gets on your nerves here just please let me know and i will try to make him leave u alone. Guys like u make this forum a valuable informative place. Not the guys that try to put down  achievements of guys like u. So in my opinion even if i don't look neutral as a  mod and taking sides, i think i have to take sides with people like u which give a big valuable practical info to the forum.  Thanx again.

Iggiv I'm not upset. Its just a pity that most people will spend their entire lifes wondering if this game is beatable. Simply because the necessary self discipline is lacking. I don't say I am perfect Iggiv But I know what I know. It took me many years to get here. I was just like the rest once. that's the reason and the only reason I push the things I do so hard. I don't say they are the ONLY way to win. But they are most certainly a way to win. And really profit from this game.
If I've even helped one person to do that. Then I've achieved something. And I know I've helped a few. The thing is this iggiv. I can give you a winning method. But I can't give you the mindset to follow it. that's up to you. The people who have it naturaly are going to be winners for the rest of their lives. The ones that don't will be system hopping for the rest of their days. As we know it takes all kinds. All extremes must exist.

[GARNabby]

... I think i have to take sides with people like u.

I figure that if a poster can't properly adequately defend himself, nay, his work, on a board like this, against a ragtag bunch, than what chance would he have in a real casino?

[iggiv]

Garnabby we are losing u already man. It's not about roulette anymore.  U r obsessed with desire to prove that someone (who tries to share and help others) is gonna fail no matter what. I kinda have a respect for u, u said  interesting things sometimes and even some practical advices about some casino trips u used to give in this forum.

but something happened that made u really negative kind of troll. So if u really don't give anymore
any practical info but on the contrary get on nerves of some people, providing here some practical info, i am gonna do something about it. Though i admit for some reasons that i feel kind of personal sympathy to u. U seem like a guy really disappointed about roulette. I can understand that. But for
practical common sense sake, i would have to do do something if some members really keep complaining about u.

Because as i said. It is not about roulette anymore. It is some wave of unproductive negativism goes and goes out of u.

[TwoCatSam]

Callin' us "ragtag".  Lemme at 'im  Lemme at 'im.

[Robeenhuut]

John u r a good man. thanks for everything. If someone really gets on your nerves here just please let me know and i will try to make him leave u alone. Guys like u make this forum a valuable informative place. Not the guys that try to put down  achievements of guys like u. So in my opinion even if i don't look neutral as a  mod and taking sides, i think i have to take sides with people like u which give a big valuable practical info to the forum.  thanks again.

Hello Iggiv

We try to do some constructive and fair criticism of everything whats posted here. I posted some stuff that did not work due to mostly  not adequate testing and being overzealous. I never personally attacked anybody here. What bugs me about JL attitude is his  "I know the best" line and flat dismissal of other people posts that dont agree with his results by ignoring them or endlessly pushing his hit and run philosophy. Bettor 27 reported strike rate around 110/1 in around 900 games of CODE 4 and there was no reply, Intriseco put out a chart testing CODE 4 and got just average results. But it was not true hit and run testing in JL opinion. To me testing it on Rx playing in some intervals and using verified live spins would constitute true test.
Look what happens now with CODE 4 Reverse Attack testing. It produces just average results but they will be dismissed by JL because the tests were not done in proper fashion. He reported in 7500 games that he saw only 11 loses - game went 9 or more steps without hit.  I just scratch my head when i see his numbers.

Regards