***C0DE 20***

[Johnlegend]

After scrutinizing a set 20 spin frame for several hundred games. I have come up with two methods. Trilogy you already have. And today the second one CODE 20. Which is a level stakes method. And is looking very consistent and strong. The RULES...

1,We start by recording spins for the Dozens and Columns in Amks classic alternating fashion until we have one of the following.

1,A,3,C---LEAD OFF LINE
1,A

A,1,C,3---LEAD OFF LINE
A,1

As you can see from the two examples above to speed up double trigger hunting, the matches can either start with a Dozen or Column.

2, Using level stakes (1,1) And a minumum BR of 40 units. We commence betting for up to 18 spins to complete a game.

3, If at any point during the game you find yourself 3 units UP. You should lock the game, bank the profit, and continue recording the remaining spins for your records.

4, By doing so, you will often come out of a game in profit. Even when eventualy you would have only broken even (12/8). Or lost 3 or more units (11/9) As winning streaks anything from 3 to 14 are possible. We just don't know where in the frame they will come. Several of my games have been locked by the 5th spin. As I attained my 3 units profit in the first three bets.

5, Depending on how you play this game. 5---15 a day. Or continously. Might require two tiers of level staking. (1,1,) (2,2) I recommend 5----15 to begin with. But its up to you as this is not a Hit and run Method but a percentage grinder.

As always questions are welcome.

Example of a game I played today.

3,C,3,A----LEAD OFF LINE
3,C,3,B----Two triggers then lost first bet -2 won second bet -1
2,A,2,C----Eventualy won a winning streak of 5 in a row +3 UNITS GAME LOCKED
2,A,3,C
3,C,2,C
1,A,1,C----Eventual 20 frame split of 12/8. Which is only break even but still made +3 units...

[Rolletti]

JL


The best system you developed. Is profitable with my 150.000 spins test and even better with 3 step progression and zero covered.

[Johnlegend]

JL

guess it should be:

1,A,3,C
1,A

A,1,C,3
A,1

you can edit your post and delete mine.

The best system you developed. Is profitable in my 150.000 spins test and even better with 3 step progression and zero covered.

Wow thats great news Rolletti

[atlantis]

Hi John,

A little question. Do the qualifying MATCHES have to be on the SAME LINE or can we do:

1,A,3,C
3,B,2,C---- trigger1 (C-C)
3,C,1,A --- start betting at position 2 - after 3-3 (trigger2)

??

You can delete this message too if desired...

A.

[Johnlegend]

Hi John,

A little question. Do the qualifying MATCHES have to be on the SAME LINE or can we do:

1,A,3,C
3,B,2,C---- trigger1 (C-C)
3,C,1,A --- start betting at position 2 - after 3-3 (trigger2)

??

You can delete this message too if desired...

A.

Hi Atlantis, no you can track spins as in my example below. Then just take them and slot them into that classic four wide grid.

1,A,3,C(3,B,1,C,3,B) You see 3 and B become your double trigger now you do as follows.

3,B,1,C----LEAD OFF LINE
3,B---------DOUBLE TRIGGER

Hope that clears that up...

[amk]

Wow, I really like the approach and it's flat betting! Thanks again Johnlegend. Your 20 spin frame has got me thinking, it has opened up a new dimension for me. As you say we have enough methods and will play with those but I will always keep pondering for the love of the game.

Glad that you have rejoined the forum.

[atlantis]

Hi Atlantis, no you can track spins as in my example below. Then just take them and slot them into that classic four wide grid.

1,A,3,C(3,B,1,C,3,B) You see 3 and B become your double trigger now you do as follows.

3,B,1,C----LEAD OFF LINE
3,B---------DOUBLE TRIGGER

Hope that clears that up...

Hi John,
Well... Ok - But you should know that recording the way you suggest I had to wait 78 spins before a qualifier in thepilot's code4 test results... whereas if I could do this with them it would certainly be a lot quicker/easier...

B3A3
B1A2
A1B1
C2C2
C1B1
C3B2
B3B3 nb, trigger1, trigger2, w
A1A3 w, w, w, l   (STOP after 3rd win target reached  +3)
C1C3 w, l, w, l
A3A3 w, w, w, l
C1B3 w, w, ,w, l
B2A2 w  (18 bets complete 14/4)


B3C2
B1B1
A1C2
B2A2
C2B3   
B3C1
A3A3
A3A2 - trigger1, trigger2, l, w
A1C1 - l, w ,w ,w
B2A3 - w, w, w, w  (STOP at +3)
C1C1  - w, w, w, w
A2A1 - w, w, w, l  (18 bets complete 15/3)

C3A2
A2B1
B1B1 - nb,nb, trigger1, trigger2
B3C1  - l, w, w, l
C1C2  - w, w, l, w
A3B3  - w, w, w, w  (STOP here as +3)
C1A1  - w, w, w, w
C3B2  - l, w (18 bets complete 14/4)


B2B2
B1C3
A1A1
C3B3
C1B1
A1C3
A2B3 - trigger1
A1A1 - trigger2, w, w, w (STOP here as +3)
B1A3 - w, l, l, w
B1A2 - l, l, l, w
C2A3 - w, w, l, w
A1C1 - w, w, w  (18 bets complete 12/6)


A.
PS. Amended to correct error

[Johnlegend]

Hi John,
Well... Ok - But you should know that recording the way you suggest I had to wait 78 spins before a qualifier in thepilot's code4 test results... whereas if I could do this with them it would certainly be a lot quicker/easier...

B3A3
B1A2
A1B1
C2C2
C1B1
C3B2
B3B3 nb, trigger1, trigger2, w
A1A3 w, w, w, l   (STOP after 3rd win target reached  +3)
C1C3 w, l, w, l
A3A3 w, w, w, l
C1B3 w, w, ,w, l
B2A2 w, nb, nb, nb (18 bets complete 14/4)


B3C2
B1B1
A1C2
B2A2
C2B3   
B3C1
A3A3
A3A2
A1C1
B2A3 
C1C1 
A2A1 - trigger1 
A1C1 - trigger2, w, w, l
A2A1 - l, w, w, l
C2B3 - w, l ,w , w
B1C2 - w, w, w, w  (STOP here as target reached +3)
B2B3 - l, w, w (18 bets complete 13/5)

C3A2
A2B1
B1B1 - nb,nb, trigger1, trigger2
B3C1  - l, w, w, l
C1C2  - w, w, l, w
A3B3  - w, w, w, w  (STOP here as +3)
C1A1  - w, w, w, w
C3B2  - l, w (18 bets complete 14/4)


B2B2
B1C3
A1A1
C3B3
C1B1
A1C3
A2B3 - trigger1
A1A1 - trigger2, w, w, w (STOP here as +3)
B1A3 - w, l, l, w
B1A2 - l, l, l, w
C2A3 - w, w, l, w
A1C1 - w, w, w  (18 bets complete 12/6)


A.

Mmm that's strange I've never waited more than 40 spins in all the 200 plus games I have tested/played. Back to back losses are usually quite frequent. Even 3 or 4 losses on the trot. If you are picking from both directions 1,A or A,1 for example. Its unsual to ever see a 20 spin frame without at least one double. Example below.

1,B,1,A----LEAD OFF LINE
2,B,1,C----TRIGGERS B,1
3,A,2,C----Other potential TRIGGERS C,3
3,B,2,A
1,C,1,C
1,A,1,B

B,1,A,2----BECOMES LEAD OFF LINE
B,1---------TRIGGERS

[TwoCatSam]

"As always questions are welcome."

People, I'm really not trying to be an arse here.  Some might say I don't even have to try!! 

Will someone answer me this:  Looking at the chart below and considering this is flat betting, why, after you list dozens and column and begin betting, does the next spin out of the box have a greater chance of winning than if you had bet it the first time you sat down/logged on?  Whether you wish to admit it or not, smoke and mirrors aside, for flat betting to work the spin must have a greater chance of winning. 

If there is no answer to this question, then you have entered the world of "Voodoo Roulette" where things happen for no logical reason.

John, please don't lecture me.  I ask logical questions which should get a logical answer, not condemnation and smoke and mirrors.  And, no, I'll not set for hours wasting my life/time testing something that flies in the face of reality.  If that makes me a failure, then so be it.

If you fellows had the strength of your convictions, you would make some videos of yourselves betting real and substantial money at a live-wheel casino.  I've noticed that no one except Thomas Grant ever did this. 

3,C,3,A----LEAD OFF LINE3,C,3,B----Two triggers then lost first bet -2 won second bet -12,A,2,C----Eventualy won a winning streak of 5 in a row +3 UNITS GAME LOCKED  <----Winning five in a row was pure luck.2,A,3,C3,C,2,C1,A,1,C----Eventual 20 frame split of 12/8. Which is only break even but still made +3 units...

TwoCatSam

[Johnlegend]

Wow, I really like the approach and it's flat betting! Thanks again Johnlegend. Your 20 spin frame has got me thinking, it has opened up a new dimension for me. As you say we have enough methods and will play with those but I will always keep pondering for the love of the game.

Glad that you have rejoined the forum.

Hi AMK yes its strong and its level stakes. There cant be any arguments now. That John Legend only favours Hit and Run and steep progs. I can do it either way. What I cant as always do. Is give anyone the mindset to play and stay with any of these methods. That resolve they have to find for themselves.

[atlantis]

Mmm that's strange I've never waited more than 40 spins in all the 200 plus games I have tested/played. Back to back losses are usually quite frequent. Even 3 or 4 losses on the trot. If you are picking from both directions 1,A or A,1 for example. Its unsual to ever see a 20 spin frame without at least one double. Example below.

1,B,1,A----LEAD OFF LINE
2,B,1,C----TRIGGERS B,1
3,A,2,C----Other potential TRIGGERS C,3
3,B,2,A
1,C,1,C
1,A,1,B

B,1,A,2----BECOMES LEAD OFF LINE
B,1---------TRIGGERS

Thanks for your clear explanation. I will play it exactly as you have outlined then...

Regards,
Atlantis.

[Johnlegend]

"As always questions are welcome."

People, I'm really not trying to be an arse here.  Some might say I don't even have to try!! 

Will someone answer me this:  Looking at the chart below and considering this is flat betting, why, after you list dozens and column and begin betting, does the next spin out of the box have a greater chance of winning than if you had bet it the first time you sat down/logged on?  Whether you wish to admit it or not, smoke and mirrors aside, for flat betting to work the spin must have a greater chance of winning. 

If there is no answer to this question, then you have entered the world of "Voodoo Roulette" where things happen for no logical reason.

John, please don't lecture me.  I ask logical questions which should get a logical answer, not condemnation and smoke and mirrors.  And, no, I'll not set for hours wasting my life/time testing something that flies in the face of reality.  If that makes me a failure, then so be it.

If you fellows had the strength of your convictions, you would make some videos of yourselves betting real and substantial money at a live-wheel casino.  I've noticed that no one except Thomas Grant ever did this. 

3,C,3,A----LEAD OFF LINE3,C,3,B----Two triggers then lost first bet -2 won second bet -12,A,2,C----Eventualy won a winning streak of 5 in a row +3 UNITS GAME LOCKED  <----Winning five in a row was pure luck.2,A,3,C3,C,2,C1,A,1,C----Eventual 20 frame split of 12/8. Which is only break even but still made +3 units...

TwoCatSam

Sam you are never going to see anything but what you want to see. Im not here to change you. As Henry Fonda said to one of the jurors in one of my fave films of ALLTIME (12 ANGRY MEN) "He can't hear you, HE NEVERWILL....

[Johnlegend]

Agree with you ol boy Sam,
Any bet that has no logic is a
woodoo bet,and I could name
and create illions of such bets,
but why when aware of the fact
neither wins.

Its nothing to do with logic Vile I should have known the forum negs would be on this one like white on rice. We don't want a level bet winning method getting out do we? ITS PERCENTAGE. You would do well both you and Sam to learn its power. Its cares nothing for Luck, logic and Einstein. Its going to break it down no matter what the maths boys say. And its going to turn a profit if you apply it properly.

[Rolletti]

JL well done!

About 13.500 bets tested with 150.000 real wheel spins flat bet and random entry point between the 20 spin frames.

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[Johnlegend]

JL well done!

About 13.500 bets tested with 150.000 real wheel spins flat bet and random entry point between the 20 spin frames.

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Thankyou Rolletti, But according to Vile and Sam its Voodoo betting with no logic. We know better. Thanks for the stats...