Jeezus, what's with all the haters do you know where you are?

[woods101]

Blimey it's been a while and I'm stunned by so many haters here all of sudden so a message to all you negative posters who are so vocal:

No1. What is this?

You may have noticed that this is primarily a system based forum. Most posts are system related. Sure there are VB sections etc and other forums out there for this but this is primarily a system based forum. If you're not interested in systems then go else where and stop hating. I like reading about systems. Just because 'all systems fail in the end' doesn't diminish my enjoyment of reading about them and how people apply them. This also does not make me unintelligent or into 'voodoo'. Jeez. who came up with this? Lol.

No2. Maths.

Shut up about the f@&king Maths!!!
You're not unintelligent either!!! If you've got this far to get to this forum then you already know tha the Maths is blatantly against you to start with. Roulette is a negative expectation game. To start quoting Maths as a reason why a system doesn't work means you didn't read the massive sign on the door on the way in. Count the numbers. Now count the amount you win when the little ball lands on one of those numbers. Errr you reckon the Maths is looking good? No you don't do you. So do us all a favour and write a stiff letter of complaint to each and every casino in the land. don't post here. Why? Well we already know the Maths thanks, we just enjoy reading other people's systems. By the way this doesn't make us unintelligent etc etc.

No3. There is a founding statement regarding this forum that placed an emphasis on open-mindedness and respect in relation to how we deal with each other. Probability is a two sided coin with each side willing to fight against the other. This won't change. Whatever your view point on chance there are other people here who believe the opposite. Get over it. If you wanna row with someone then start a new post, don't trash someone else's. By the way there is always no winners so maybe don't waste your time anyhow.

No4. If you don't like it - ignore it.

If someone post a method you think is wrong or doesn't work, then let them work it out. If you can help them gently with constructive critique then great but if you just wanna shout ' what a load of BS' then don't bother it's tiresome. Some of us just enjoy reading other people's methods. This doesnt make us unintelligent etc etc etc etc zzzz. Or in the words of st least two great members, one from the USA and one from eastern Europe who both played b&m most days, who have both left this forum due to the monotonous drone of only a handful of other members:
If you don't agree read something else and don't comment. Sure you've got a right but the tune is so so so tired. And the reason for why you should do this? You see we're not unintelligent, It's just we enjoy reading about other peoples systems etc etc etc etc etc ad infinitum.

Thanks
Woods

[TwoCatSam]

"'voodoo'. Jeez. who came up with this? LoL."

I did!

Sam

[Robeenhuut]

"'voodoo'. Jeez. who came up with this? LoL."

I did!

Sam

Hola

Apparently all haters will be here because Code 20 thread was locked and you can not comment on it...    And JL just proved that all haters r fools by posting his fake Code 20 n letting them comment on it.  I guess now that he will just pm his original Code 20 2 people worthy of it. 
2 all interested anyway - just play it in opposite way 2 rules posted with as many triggers as possible 
I think 5 triggers (non matches) will make it sure winner.

Regards

[Johnlegend]

Hola

Apparently all haters will be here because Code 20 thread was locked and you can not comment on it...    And JL just proved that all haters r fools by posting his fake Code 20 n letting them comment on it.  I guess now that he will just pm his original Code 20 2 people worthy of it. 
2 all interested anyway - just play it in opposite way 2 rules posted with as many triggers as possible 
I think 5 triggers (non matches) will make it sure winner.

Regards

Very good Robeenhuut, VERY GOOD...The thing is this. I could profit from CODE 20 EITHER WAY for the rest of my days. And it never ceases to amaze me that others don't see the things I do. I've played/tested CODE 20 for over 300 games now. I've never seen a worst split than 10/10 Cofi reported a few 8/12s but so what. Random is telling us something. But we aren't listening.

FRAME BETTING. what's it WORTH? Its priceless I will tell you now. It allows you to scrutinize random frame after frame until you OUGHT to see something that can be exploited. Now I pushed CODE 20 as a level bets method. So everyone thinks level bets. But I don't really care about level bets. I care about WINNING. Random has clearly shown me its virtual limit.
VIRTUAL SATURATION POINT. For losing. I now know I could profit by simply raising stakes inside that frame.

This is why I have no time or respect for maths based thinkers. They fail to realize even a game of negative expectancy can be conquered. You simply approach it from a different angle. When we are all supposed to bow I stand up and say they didn't cover all the bases. All the possibilities with this game. FRAME BETTING is one of them.

[atlantis]

Hi John,
I also noticed you locked the CODE20 thread. Does this mean you will be posting a new one with the genuine rules?
Thanks, A.

[Johnlegend]

Hi John,
I also noticed you locked the CODE20 thread. Does this mean you will be posting a new one with the genuine rules?
Thanks, A.

Soon my friend although Robeenhuut seems to have a pretty good idea of how it will be.

[atlantis]

Hi John,

Good - and I agree it seems to be the way to go

A.

[Johnlegend]

Blimey it's been a while and I'm stunned by so many haters here all of sudden so a message to all you negative posters who are so vocal:

No1. What is this?

You may have noticed that this is primarily a system based forum. Most posts are system related. Sure there are VB sections etc and other forums out there for this but this is primarily a system based forum. If you're not interested in systems then go else where and stop hating. I like reading about systems. Just because 'all systems fail in the end' doesn't diminish my enjoyment of reading about them and how people apply them. This also does not make me unintelligent or into 'voodoo'. Jeez. who came up with this? LoL.

No2. Maths.

Shut up about the f@&king Maths!!!
You're not unintelligent either!!! If you've got this far to get to this forum then you already know tha the Maths is blatantly against you to start with. Roulette is a negative expectation game. To start quoting Maths as a reason why a system doesn't work means you didn't read the massive sign on the door on the way in. Count the numbers. Now count the amount you win when the little ball lands on one of those numbers. Errr you reckon the Maths is looking good? No you don't do you. So do us all a favour and write a stiff letter of complaint to each and every casino in the land. don't post here. Why? Well we already know the Maths thanks, we just enjoy reading other people's systems. By the way this doesn't make us unintelligent etc etc.

No3. There is a founding statement regarding this forum that placed an emphasis on open-mindedness and respect in relation to how we deal with each other. Probability is a two sided coin with each side willing to fight against the other. This won't change. Whatever your view point on chance there are other people here who believe the opposite. Get over it. If you wanna row with someone then start a new post, don't trash someone else's. By the way there is always no winners so maybe don't waste your time anyhow.

No4. If you don't like it - ignore it.

If someone post a method you think is wrong or doesn't work, then let them work it out. If you can help them gently with constructive critique then great but if you just wanna shout ' what a load of BS' then don't bother it's tiresome. Some of us just enjoy reading other people's methods. This doesn't make us unintelligent etc etc etc etc zzzz. Or in the words of st least two great members, one from the USA and one from eastern Europe who both played b&m most days, who have both left this forum due to the monotonous drone of only a handful of other members:
If you don't agree read something else and don't comment. Sure you've got a right but the tune is so so so tired. And the reason for why you should do this? You see we're not unintelligent, It's just we enjoy reading about other peoples systems etc etc etc etc etc ad infinitum.

Thanks
Woods

Yes Woods this forum is starting to look like one of those awful pointless forums like VLS or even worse Punters Lounge. Where losers congragate, waiting for anyone who doesnt agree with their pessimistic outlook on roulette. Then they gang up on them to see them off. So they can carry on promoting. worthless theory. Endless debating. But no actual progress.
But we have a few open minds here. And thats the reason I continue to try. Otherwise id be long gone.

[Turner]

Lol....woods takes, what appears to be, a lot of his time and effort trying to get the forum back in line with its real agender and the following posts are the same people arguing. Reminds me of when my kids were 9 & 5. Having said that woods, go look up one of my first posts in here called forums are forums are forums.

[Johnlegend]

LoL....woods takes, what appears to be, a lot of his time and effort trying to get the forum back in line with its real agender and the following posts are the same people arguing. Reminds me of when my kids were 9 & 5. Having said that woods, go look up one of my first posts in here called forums are forums are forums.

Arguing is not the point. The pessimists will always be. Those who can't make a decision unless the maths book says its okay. Essentially a loser. And those who enter the frame with a fresh perception. Willing to try something different. And see for themselves. That math based thinking doesn't own your potential success with this game. The tiny minority my kind of thinking will always be. But that's fine with me. We need the other 99.9 to prospur.

[Turner]

Johnlegend

I like reading your posts. I find them too complecated for me. Maybe I'm lazy and cant be bothered to put in the effort: looking for a quick fix.

I am sure you are familiar with the word dualism. If you call you a fat lazy so and so and I come back with a retort, some observers baying for a fight will say....good on you Turner...give it him back. Actually, I am creating the same bad karma as the original insult. There is no difference.

Silence is golden. If you dont like the criticism...ignore it. Treat it as background noise. Dont delete them, let them stand. Just reply to the posts that interest you, like an idea to improve your progression or something.

Alternativly, you can completly ignore what I just said if you wish 

Turner

[cofi]

Hello JL,

I have some new testing figures to present (regarding splits) but since the original thread is locked I don't know if is it ok to post them here?

[Johnlegend]

Johnlegend

I like reading your posts. I find them too complecated for me. Maybe I'm lazy and can't be bothered to put in the effort: looking for a quick fix.

I am sure you are familiar with the word dualism. If you call you a fat lazy so and so and I come back with a retort, some observers baying for a fight will say....good on you Turner...give it him back. Actually, I am creating the same bad karma as the original insult. There is no difference.

Silence is golden. If you don't like the criticism...ignore it. Treat it as background noise. don't delete them, let them stand. Just reply to the posts that interest you, like an idea to improve your progression or something.

Alternativly, you can completly ignore what I just said if you wish 

Turner

Turner what will be will be. I cant change you. I can show you a way. Only you can decide whether you want to succeed. That said no lazy indifferent person will ever get anywhere with this game.

[atlantis]

Hello JL,

I have some new testing figures to present (regarding splits) but since the original thread is locked I don't know if is it ok to post them here?

Hi cofi,
I am interested in the split figures - you can Pm if u like.
Hope JL starts another code20 thread soon
A.

[Johnlegend]

Hi cofi,
I am interested in the split figures - you can Pm if u like.
Hope JL starts another code20 thread soon
A.

Lol I get the hint Atlantis. It will be on today promise. Im in philosophical mood as you may have noticed. Not really even playing today. Im having a day off. And revisiting my last 18 months on this forum. From the time you Twister and me forged MATRIX VERTICAL 5. Remember that? What became of Twister? I hope he is okay