Jeezus, what's with all the haters do you know where you are?

[beretta28]

FRAME BETTING:Johnlegend stressed this point.
He is perfectly right.
Frame Betting is one of the basic rule for fighting against roulette.
The other ones IMHO:
-play only a few spins per session(less than 40)
-an unit must not be lower than 1/20 of session BKR
-In Europe, play only even chances(it's safer to play against 1,35% VIG , than against 2,70% or more)
-NO negative progressions(better positive progressions or flat bet)
-Bet selection(I'm neutral!) does it exist)Not sure

[cofi]

Hi Atlantis and JL,

I'd prefer to post them here, if some1 else might be interested.

Quick test, 28 sets of 20 spins (total 560 spins), results are as follows:

18/2:  1
17/3:  /
16/4:  9
15/5:  6
14/6:  5
13/7:  5
12/8:  1
11/9:  /
10/10 /
9/11: 1

[Johnlegend]

Hello JL,

I have some new testing figures to present (regarding splits) but since the original thread is locked I don't know if is it ok to post them here?

I would appreciate you PMing them to me Atlantis or anyone else interested. And dropping them here to if Woods101 doesnt mind. Well done...

[cofi]

JL,

already done the post before.

[Johnlegend]

Hi Atlantis,

I'd prefer to post them here, if some1 else might be interested.

Quick test, 28 sets of 20 spins (total 560 spins), results are as follows:

18/2:  1
17/3:  /
16/4:  9
15/5:  6
14/6:  5
13/7:  5
12/8:  1
11/9:  /
10/10 /
9/11: 1

Yup those are similar breakdowns to what I've found in testing. What does it say to you Cofi ? Its says to me that the middle ground 13/7---14/6 is both potentially profittable for either direction of play. For or against the match. A chain of thought that has NEVER left me since our friend Atlantis first coined the term some 18 months ago during testing for MATRIX VERTICAL 5. Is AC/DC PLAY. I believe CODE 20 offers the ultimate oppurtunity to put this into practice. Remember I started testing this as CODE 4O.

I spilt it in half. But what often happens during those 40 spins is the first 20 favour FOR THE MATCH. And the second 20 AGAINST THE MATCH. Or vice versa. Again Mr percentage is doing his best to haul Random in for questioning. Now I am thinking its time to respond to this.

[cofi]

JL,

this tells me that we can play either way.

Or, first 4 spins can be virtual, and depenting on them we decide to play remaining 16 for a mach, or for a non-mach.

Or, wait for 3 or 4 non-maches, then play the rest of session for a mach until have +3 or have 4 hits.

Or wait for Your idea of CODE 20 Reverse Attack.

Some suggests, JL?

It looks to me that this is long-time winner. 

[Johnlegend]

JL,

this tells me that we can play either way.

Or, first 4 spins can be virtual, and depenting on them we decide to play remaining 16 for a mach, or for a non-mach.

Or, wait for 3 or 4 non-maches, then play the rest of session for a mach until have +3 or have 4 hits.

Or wait for Your idea of CODE 20 Reverse Attack.

Some suggests, JL?

It looks to me that this is long-time winner. 

I like what you are saying very much. And its been in my mind for the last 24 hours. Thats why I have hesitated to drop CODE 20 the new one. Because what this is all saying to me. Is AC/DC Play is the ultimate way to go. I like the TRIGGER IDEA to suggest which way we go Cofi. Personally though I was thinking of 5 for a non match. And the regular 2 for a match. he reason being. The longest matching streak ive ever recorded is 6 in a row. The longest non matching streak 15. Although I know it could go beyond either once in a while. I think those are good average trigger points.

[atlantis]

Hi John,
I am only interested in playing CODE20 for MATCH. Flatbetting after 4 or 5 non-match triggers. A one dozen bet. We know original code20 doesn't work. (the fake one) Suppose you get a couple or three zeroes showing up in a frame when you're double dozen betting - can be costly. I'm happy to just collect on the matches and stop at the LOCK and aim for 3 point game wins. If this works we won't need to change anything or switch to 2 dozen betting... If you want to expand on that to get more bets then I suggest recording 2 grids:

doz col doz col   ---   col doz col doz

and just play for match after the triggers occur  (with separate banks?)

A.

[Master_of_pockets]

I would like to congratulate woods101 for this topic and his post.
Indeed this is a roulette forum and there is no needs for haters to be here.
Most of us know the negative expectation of this game but we still try ... say its a hobby or a dream or call it whatever you like.
So all the haters can join an other forum or something...but no they are still here. This proves that they also have the same hobby-dream.

So let us do our thing without any distractions 

[Robeenhuut]

I would like to congratulate woods101 for this topic and his post.
Indeed this is a roulette forum and there is no needs for haters to be here.
Most of us know the negative expectation of this game but we still try ... say its a hobby or a dream or call it whatever you like.
So all the haters can join an other forum or something...but no they are still here. This proves that they also have the same hobby-dream.

So let us do our thing without any distractions

Yeah

Lets just congratulate each other on posting anything and dont criticize. Then everybody will be happy.  Lets make it kiss everybody a.s.s  forum. Very user friendly.     Hope that your pockets r very deep 

[justanothergambler]

Yeah

Lets just congratulate each other on posting anything and don't criticize. Then everybody will be happy.  Lets make it kiss everybody a.s.s  forum. Very user friendly.     Hope that your pockets r very deep 

we just posted same idea at the same time! I hope they would understand and leave their emotions far from this.

[6th-sense]

Just like to say you need a match for code 20 before going for another match.... I have gone over 20 spins without a match yesterday...hybrid dc4 lost for the first time for me ... Not 2 matching lines but 3....am i going to give up nope...

[atlantis]

Hi 6th-sense,

Are you saying you had something like this:

3a1a - lead off line
2b3c
1a1b
3c2a
1b1c
2a3a

No vertical matches in 20 consecutive spins.

A.

[Robeenhuut]

we just posted same idea at the same time! I hope they would understand and leave their emotions far from this.

They wont  JNG

What keeps them in d game?  Emotions... When asked about real numbers there is a silence.
We get some numbers occasionally that dont tell u anything. Like i won 10 games last nite in fun mode... Sorry guys but unless u produce some real testing from larger sample of spins u wont make us believers.  Especially when these systems like JL repeatedly stated r supposed 2 work in spite of contradicting basic mathematical/statistical rules applied 2 any games including roulette.

[vile]

Haters ?

You must be kidding or either you haven't clue
what's going on in here.
The man,self called JOHNLEGEND/
aka Charles Scammer Hampshire, scammer/after scamming hundreds
of people.on these forums/arrived again,and you people.
can't see further of you nose.He is teasing with
you for about a year now with these useless matrix
things,which every one proved negative,always promesing
a new woodoo happening that will conquer world-
Keeping you guys always in expectation,he is only throwing
you new baits,before he strikes again with his devil plot.
And you call me and few other guys haters couse we warn you
what's going to happen.Well if you are so naive and system hungry
let it be so.Just a friendly warning,that's all.