The most productive topic in here that will help us go on with theis game

[Master_of_pockets]

Can someone show me a link for this Marigny system or post here what is all about?
thank you

[Still]

Can someone show me a link for this Marigny system or post here what is all about?
thank you

On this forum, ego is perhaps the most interesting researcher who credits Marigny for certain of his concepts.  You can start here:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/main-roulette-board/4/marigny-de-grilleau/9481/

And/or google 'Marigny roulette'

[Master_of_pockets]

thanks

[Still]

thanks

In addition, you should pay attention to member albertojonas (see thread: "EC,no trolling"), who may be using a derivative of one of ego/Marigny's concepts to compete in a betting contest over at VLS.  Dunno if he's still the leader but was doing quite well at one point. 

[Robeenhuut]

Robeen....I've worked out you are a clever guy for my self, not because you keep telling me you are like some in here

I just think that while you are arguing with JL, you could be putting together something from your camp. If I placed an idea here (I just have in notepad) I would welcome criticism, so I would enjoy the post and so would you. You don't seem to be enjoying commenting on JL's posts because its not getting you anywhere. I personally wouldnt bother. If it turns out to be the holy grail, then you didn't embarrass yourself saying how nonsense it was because you didn't comment.
If it crashes and burns....have a chuckle to yourself.
I just think its distracting you being creative. This site is dying. it needs people like you and GLC and TwoCAtSam to get stuff up here. Look at all the stuff Proof puts up in notepad. I don't think he sleeps...LoL

I don't like Matix bets. I have better things to do than sit in a casino for 7 hours to make less than if I worked in McDonalds, but JL and his apostles love them. Good luck to them. Lets move on.

Hello Turner

Thanks 4 d compliment  But argument can be made that we r all silly here thinking that we can constantly beat roulette.  About getting stuff up here.  What works in my opinion is 4 example  Mr J street system. Flat betting 12 times number that did not hit in any street  after the 2 other numbers hit in d last 12-15 spins.  10 n 12 hit then flat bet 11 and so on.  It can be played  in different ways. I bet on all numbers that qualify. Sometimes 5 at one time.  You could also bet just one number and if other qualifies then switch 2 d other one. Its deceptively fast.
I average 1 game every 7 or 8 spins playing all qualifiers. In 2-3 hours playing session you can make 300u or more. If it hits it hits  Sometimes you will get 3 or 4 wins in a row at d start n scratch yr head what to do next. I always try 2 ride hot streak bit more. But its up 2 yr playing style. I will gladly accept any criticism here. 

Regards

[Proofreaders2000]

"Look at all the stuff Proof puts up in notepad. I don't think he sleeps...LoL"--Turnerfeck

"Yes Proofreader has given us some good food for thought, I agree...
In fact, I'd forgotten that he gave me a tweak/mod for one of my posted systems that I haven't tried out yet!  Tx for the reminder
A."--Atlantis

Thanks for the compliments, but now the U.S. government is keeping my winnings from online gambling.  (I dodged two Department of Justice raids with eWalletXpress & Quicktender).  Now Bank of America has confiscated $1500 from a tournament. 

It's time to say goodbye for good.  Be careful out there guys.

[Still]

Thanks for the compliments, but now the U.S. government is keeping my winnings from online gambling.  (I dodged two Department of Justice raids with eWalletXpress & Quicktender).  Now Bank of America has confiscated $1500 from a tournament. 

It's time to say goodbye for good.  Be careful out there guys.

What!!!

Proof, what if you were to take some kind of stand and defy those odds.  If you said, 'There must be a way', what are the chances you'd find it? 

Meanwhile, what direction do you plan to go?  It appears to me that 'binary options' are legal...as well as 'forex' trading.  Do you plan to go in either of these directions?

Otherwise, if it's profitable for you to stick with roulette or whatever, don't you suppose that a collaboration could solve that problem, at least temporarily?  And what about what we have learned from the sovereignty movement?  Is there a tactic there that might get you your money from B of A?

[superman]

If someone has done tests on RNG play-mode, and, exactly following Legend's instructions, showed evidence that it won't work, then say so.  Otherwise, if you haven't, also say so.  Say, 'I have not tested anything of Legend's on RNG play-mode, but i am willing to make authoritative comments on what are the possibilities anyway'.

Been there and done that, (that's why he doesn't like me sticking my nose in) you haven't looked deep enough into the archives here mate, since THE ZONE all his systems have been coded and tested against RNG play mode, pure coding random, random.org, RNG real money mode, PHP random and dublinbet live tables, and guess what, they all fail, and not just for me, others have tested too, BUT as I used a bot, which he hates as they prove a point, it was continual play, which he hates too but hit n run has also been tested, there is no difference between RNG play mode or real mode, play mode may be "softer" but you wont beat it like he claims.

You have to remember, he has produced probably 6 or 7 methods over his stay here, all of them are supposedly the dogs dangly bits, but he keeps producing new ones, why is that?

[marivo]

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Quote from: Maui13 on June 08, 2012, 11:34:19 AM
Drazen, I've said it before... don't be negative on topics you don't agree with. If you don't like any of the matrix methods, why do you post here? Ignore them and spend your time else where.

You are also one of the guys who continually bring the term "math" into you posts. Einstein said that nothing travels faster than the speed of light! GUESS WHAT - he was wrong! So don't tell people here stuff can't work, if you can't prove it!

Regards
M




Dear Maui, it is not my personal unfavavouring here. I just said that all is based on wrong facts. That is all. JL says it is percentage method. Well that percentages are wrong calculated, that is what i am saying. And that is a mathematical fact. So how can something work if it is based on non workable facts?


And about speed of light and Einstein, you are the one who is wrong my friend. I know what you are reffering to.
That was mistake. Wrong calculations due to mechanical malfunction of some measuring devices in CERN-s Large hadron collider.


They announced that as a fallacy of a century, but when they noticed malfunction, and did re-tests guess what, einstein was right again


Over and out for me


Cheers


[size=78%]Drazen[/size]

The other topic is locked so i dare to put this here. I apologize because its a bit off of this topic. I just read this this morning.

link:://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR19.11E.html

[Drazen]

Can someone show me a link for this Marigny system or post here what is all about?
thank you

My friend Marigny is not a "system". It is more mathematical/statistical obsevation and finding strong enough ecart.


Ego on this forum has wrote a lot about Marigny and he knows about that theme very much.


He also has written on other forums.


This is maybe best and most detailed explanation, on gamblers glen forum. Read it, test it and enjoy!


link:://:.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?
board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=8311&forum=Roulette_Message_Board


Regards


Drazen

[Robeenhuut]

Been there and done that, (that's why he doesn't like me sticking my nose in) you haven't looked deep enough into the archives here mate, since THE ZONE all his systems have been coded and tested against RNG play mode, pure coding random, random.org, RNG real money mode, PHP random and dublinbet live tables, and guess what, they all fail, and not just for me, others have tested too, BUT as I used a bot, which he hates as they prove a point, it was continual play, which he hates too but hit n run has also been tested, there is no difference between RNG play mode or real mode, play mode may be "softer" but you won't beat it like he claims.

You have to remember, he has produced probably 6 or 7 methods over his stay here, all of them are supposedly the dogs dangly bits, but he keeps producing new ones, why is that?

I think that John craves attention, who does not?  n he has masochistic side. He actually   enjoys being abused by "math boys" or "haters"  coz he thinks that he is on some crusade.
He will go away once forum members will start ignoring him.  Its no more now about being right or wrong but about just being here 

[superman]

I think that John craves attention

Spot on mate, I've said that a few times before, he is relying on the members that are wanting to believe in his methods.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed monster is king

[Still]

Been there and done that, (that's why he doesn't like me sticking my nose in) you haven't looked deep enough into the archives here mate, since THE ZONE all his systems have been coded and tested against RNG play mode, pure coding random, random.org, RNG real money mode, PHP random and dublinbet live tables, and guess what, they all fail, and not just for me, others have tested too, BUT as I used a bot, which he hates as they prove a point, it was continual play, which he hates too but hit n run has also been tested, there is no difference between RNG play mode or real mode, play mode may be "softer" but you won't beat it like he claims.

You have to remember, he has produced probably 6 or 7 methods over his stay here, all of them are supposedly the dogs dangly bits, but he keeps producing new ones, why is that?

I checked the archives and found this:

"JohnLegend's The Zone in my opinion is a great method, particularly for a newbie."
                                                                                          ~ Proofreaders2000

"It fails, sadly,..." ~ superman

link:://rouletteforum.cc/main-roulette-board/4/enter-the-zone/172/

I didn't see the basis for your comment.  It could very well be that you're programming skills are flawless and you are able to model any set of instructions.  How can i or anyone be certain of this?

Have you ever come across any  system that holds up under your type of testing?  (Probably an irrelevant question).

And, if you are consistently getting failures (whatever that means) while the hit-and-run people are winning (whatever that means), maybe it's time to rethink what is happening.  Either somebody is lying, or are short-term self-decieved (the hammer has not yet dropped)...or algorithmic modelers are prone to make mistakes...are misunderstanding...are not making themselves clear...or there is something else going on when anyone takes a break from the table. 

Rolletti posted a rather positive result with Trilogy recently. Can you really make such broad statements...tested all methods in so many ways...all failed?   I don't know of too many others who are actually writing algorithms to test this stuff.  Hasn't Ophis put something together?  What have we learned from him in regards any of Legends ideas?

My recommendation is to post whether JohnLegend likes it or not.  But it's not enough to say "It fails".  I think you need to clarify your methods of testing, and if you really feel the system fails, perhaps you would be so kind as to show your code so that some of us can verify that you indeed put together an exact model. 

Maybe what i need to ask here is, who, in this forum are the premier algorithmic modelers who can speak with authority regarding any particular method put under the microscope?  If you are among them, can you point me to some of your research so i can be as confident about your results as you are?

[Proofreaders2000]

"I checked the archives and found this:

"JohnLegend's The Zone in my opinion is a great method, particularly for a newbie." ~ Proofreaders2000

"It fails, sadly,..." ~ Superman"--Still

I grew.  The Zone was a miserable failure.
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"What!!!

Proof, what if you were to take some kind of stand and defy those odds.  If you said, 'There must be a way', what are the chances you'd find it? 

Meanwhile, what direction do you plan to go?  It appears to me that 'binary options' are legal...as well as 'forex' trading.  Do you plan to go in either of these directions?"--Still

Stock market is an option---right now it is time to keep a very low profile, especially from forums untill things get better (from the looks it's going to take a long while.)

[Robeenhuut]

I checked the archives and found this:

"JohnLegend's The Zone in my opinion is a great method, particularly for a newbie." ~ Proofreaders2000

"It fails, sadly,..." ~ Superman

link:://rouletteforum.cc/main-roulette-board/4/enter-the-zone/172/

I didn't see the basis for your comment.  It could very well be that you're programming skills are flawless and you are able to model any set of instructions.  How can i or anyone be certain of this?

Have you ever come across any  system that holds up under your type of testing?  (Probably an irrelevant question).

And, if you are consistently getting failures while the hit-and-run people are winning, maybe it's time to rethink what is happening.  Either somebody is lying, or are short-term self-decieved (the hammer has not yet dropped)...or algorithmic modelers are prone to make mistakes...are misunderstanding...are not making themselves clear...or there is something else going on when anyone takes a break from the table. 

Rolletti posted a rather positive result with Trilogy recently. Can you really make such broad statements...tested all methods in so many ways...all failed?   I don't know of too many others who are actually writing algorithms to test this stuff.  Hasn't Ophis put something together?  What have we learned from him in regards any of Legends ideas?

My recommendation is to post whether JohnLegend likes it or not.  But it's not enough to say "It fails".  I think you need to clarify your methods of testing, and if you really feel the system fails, perhaps you would be so kind as to show your code so that some of us can verify that you indeed put together an exact model. 

Maybe what i need to ask here is, who, in this forum are the premier algorithmic modelers who can speak with authority regarding any particular method put under the microscope?  If you are among them, can you point me to some of your research so i can be as confident about your results as you are?

Hello Still

Its not about algorithms n bots. Get paper n pen n test Trilogy and report results.  We tested other method Reversed Code 4 Attack. Check d results. All others including Code 20 r based on d same flawed concept.

Regards