Method must study it propely

[Drazen]

Drazen...I kinda kept out of this post for the very reasons Sam mentioned. Its nice to get a round-up.

I tried this method when it first came out but it tanked, so I left it. I never tried this swap version, where you swap to the opposite on a loss.

Maybe I was unlucky in my choice of actuals from Seilbank casino but i played it for 40 or so spins and the BR (100U) range was never outside -93 to +109. stable, I agree, but what's the point.

that's an hour of taxing brain usage sat in a real casino for (when I quit) +3U

It is on every one to develop his own  play how he likes.


You can make your own MM and stop-loss as you wish. It can be 100 units if you think you can play like that.


But you need good bank in every case you choose.


I know mr. F_LAT_INO for example  was telling me before that he plays every EC method with realy good bank in casino with several thousand of units. That way he can hold realy hard fluctations while balance comes. That is one option.


You can't fight against this game with 100 units in pocket. At least not for long.


So every one should test,test test it and see what could be best MM strategy if he wants to play.


Cheers


Drazen

[Johnlegend]

It is on every one to develop his own  play how he likes.


You can make your own MM and stop-loss as you wish. It can be 100 units if you think you can play like that.


But you need good bank in every case you choose.


I know mr. F_LAT_INO for example  was telling me before that he plays every EC method with realy good bank in casino with several thousand of units. That way he can hold realy hard fluctations while balance comes. That is one option.


You can't fight against this game with 100 units in pocket. At least not for long.


So every one should test,test test it and see what could be best MM strategtetgy if he wants to play.


Cheers


Drazen

One hundred percent agree with this post. Smart Money management is CRUCIAL to your success with this game. It cant be overstated. Well said...

[Robeenhuut]

Have unswered that can't open your spins.
Also,even if I could,wouldn't check unless it's
numbers from actual permanenzes.
Next time send some actuals,preferably one after other,
not from diff.years.Got my point.

No reason 2 get upset Vile. Your method can tank once in a while but still be a winner long term.
As i mentioned b4 f u won 40 sessions in a row so it just comes down to MM n proper stop-loss n win-goal.  I'm just very allergic 2 claims that method is virtually unbeatable n of strike ratio out of this world.

regards

[atlantis]

Not to worry, vile.
I'm not put off  by M_O_P's bad number sequence either... I had been winning consistently in trials before he posted that. And anyway, if starting a few spins later or earlier the result I got may well have been quite different. But I also got positive results from playing the original way you posted (before the tweak) Also - it looks like JL is playing it another way entirely and getting good results too.. So not to give up yet!
A.

[Drazen]

Ok gents i am not here to defend or to prove anything.


But i see some stir here about bank and possibility of losing.


I never lie so as mr. F_LAT_INO


Please allow me to say something that realy happened in life of one professional player.


Most of you know who is mr.F_LAT_INO here although is not on forum for some time. And i already mentioned him and his play on EC-s in my very previous post in this thread.


Before few years ago he was playing one EC bet that is i pressume familiar to good connoisseurs of this game.
That bet was RO vs. BE


He started to play , and from start he got in DD(draft down). But in DD which lasted 7 days of play in casino. Yes, you see right: seven days.
From very first spin since casino opens, to the last on the end of that session. On the same table every day.
Playing up and down, up and down but balance wasn't coming. First day, second, and on and on and on..
He caught him self that he was playing on 7th day in a row same bet on same table, starting whit number of chips on how much he stopped day before, but one side of the bet (although has more chance matheamticaly) still wasn't come in balance to get him profit.
And when he already decided to take a loss, balance came and gave him profit. On 7th  day in a row gents...


Now what is the moral of this story?
How big bank he had to have?
How much patience he had to have?
Does one who has big bank and patience made of iron must be winner in the end?
How many of you would be prepared to play like this?


I hope mr. flat won't mind me for telling this but i thought i should tell this, just to see who is who.


And mr. vile is not far away from mr. flat... Same category of player. be sure about that.


Cheers and have a nice day


Drazen

[TwoCatSam]

I'm not sure I'm playing it 100% correct but its winning, What I do is simply track until I have 4 unique lines I,E 2 5 6 4, I then play for match on one of the last 3 of those 4 unique lines, And so far its never more than 4 attempts to hit one, After a win I retrack until I have another 4 unique liner, I do this for 4 games a session then shut it down,

So you only play six numbers instead of 18.  How do you decide which one of the last three? 

And you hit in 4 attempts!!   Math says one out of six is normal.  How do you do it?

Why do you wait for 4 unique and then select your line from the last three?

Where are you playing?  I mean, literally, where?  Is it cold numbers?  Real money?

Poor ol' brainwashed Sam

[TwoCatSam]

FROM DRAZEN

"Mr TCS let me try to explain


Ok you go on last 3 lines until lose. After lose switch to furthest 3 until lose. That is 1 cycle and after that you raise or reduce chips depending on winning/non wining cycle.


5
3
5
2-start to bet last 3 (253)
2w
4L-switch to furthest from the ones you bet (those were 253-so now you bet 416)
1w
4w
5L-our cycle ends and again we bet last 3 so they are 541
1w
2L-now furthest again from last we were betting (furthest from 541 are 236)
6w
6w
5L last (562)"

Yes, Mr. Drazen, that is quite clear.  And that was what I thought it was from studying the sheets.  Just wanted a little confirmation.

Now a question:

1
2
3.....start to bet on 1,2,3 lines
1...win
1...win
4...loss

Now that I have my loss with the last three being 1 1 4, do I take a break and wait for thee unique to form?

Thank you for your clear answer.  I ran my bloviation checker over it and it was clean!!

Sam

[Drazen]

Now a question:

1
2
3.....start to bet on 1,2,3 lines
1...win
1...win
4...loss

Now that I have my loss with the last three being 1 1 4, do I take a break and wait for thee unique to form?

Thank you for your clear answer.  I ran my bloviation checker over it and it was clean!!

Sam

No break, this bet is in continuation. Last 3 or furthest 3 doesn't mean that they are last 3 lines in a row. Just last 3 different. Last or furthest.
In your example after loss furthest 3 would be 456


So to conclude if someone still doesnt understand, furthest means opposite lines in othe word.


Cheers 


Drazen

[Robeenhuut]

So you only play six numbers instead of 18.  How do you decide which one of the last three? 

And you hit in 4 attempts!!   Math says one out of six is normal.  How do you do it?

Why do you wait for 4 unique and then select your line from the last three?

Where are you playing?  I mean, literally, where?  Is it cold numbers?  Real money?

Poor ol' brainwashed Sam

No Sam  I guess John bets on 3 last lines if 4 unique lines hit so if 2,3,5,6 u bet 3,5,6.
Its similar 2 his Phase 3 method where u bet 4 step progression against or 4 repeat of 3 lines.
2,3,5,2,2,3  u bet against 2,3,5. If  2,3,5,1,1,4 u bet 4 2,3,5. So if u have 3 repeats u bet against original lines. If opposites hit 3 times u bet 4 original ones. Apparently 1st bet is more strong.

[TwoCatSam]

Drazen

So my chart would look like this:


1
2
3.....start to bet on 1,2,3 lines
1...win
1...win
4...loss
now bet
4
5
6

Got it.  Thanks a lot.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Rob

I am going by what the man wrote:  "one of the last 3 of those 4 unique lines".  He says he bets on one of the last three out of four unique very plainly.

Here is my point:  This man is a self-promoted genius, yet he makes statements like this.  If you read his post, he is saying that not once has he lost betting six numbers for four spins.  Not once!!  This means a six-line is repeating once every four spins or less.  This is not mathematically possible!

And if the bloke says, "Well, I just haven't tested it enough."  I say, "Then why are you posting results like a expert?"

I just don't get it.  I just don't get any of it.

TwoCatSam

[ego]

 
TCS

My understanding is also that he track lines and use the three first active ones and play does each time once one of the new lines appear.

If that is correct then we can conclude that one will sleep and not show most of the time.
This means that he is actually playing with 3 lines against 2 lines.
That is 18 numbers against 12 numbers and means that if you place only three attacks each time he is playing against one dozen to show 4 times in a row placing 3 bets.
If the trigger is to play once each time a show of the 2 not showing show.

If that is true and i understand it correct i can test is using random org.

[TwoCatSam]

EGO

You, Vile and Master have all three contributed to a great idea.

I will have a peek at it with some spins and if it works like I think it will, I'll never post it! 

JUST KIDDING!!!

I'll post it, already!

TCS

[ego]

EGO

You, Vile and Master have all three contributed to a great idea.

I will have a peek at it with some spins and if it works like I think it will, I'll never post it! 

JUST KIDDING!!!

I'll post it, already!

TCS

TCS i will be honest with you and tell you that even if some one pay me money i would not use any roulette system at this forum - including my own ideas ...

[Johnlegend]

TCS i will be honest with you and tell you that even if some one pay me money i would not use any roulette system at this forum - including my own ideas ...

WHY?