The JL Challenge

[Robeenhuut]

I guess these are all double dozen bets? Most of JL's systems seem to use them - ie.

DOZ1     2   L   235
DOZ2     2   L   233  this was a double dozen bet on 1&2

DOZ1     2   L   231
DOZ2     2   L   229  double dozen bet on 1&2

DOZ2     4   L   225
DOZ3     4   W   233  double dozen bet on 2&3

DOZ2     1   L   232
DOZ3     1   W   234  double dozen bet on 2&3 etc..

so the 14 losses in a row is actually 7 double dozen losses in a row, & then won the 8th attempt with 20u on each dozen?

You are wrong. Study betting history from 18/7. Single dozens only.

[monaco]

You are wrong. Study betting history from 18/7. Single dozens only.

How does that prove I'm wrong? Proves I'm right if anything.

{It's why you'll never see 3 continuous W's when he's betting the dozens.}

[Johnlegend]

Oh dear... 

John, it's going to be a tough climb back up from this. Are you ready to concede defeat? 

No Bayes if we are playing -500 to +5000? As the parameters of failure and success. I'm not done yet. Played foolishly had a few jars for my birthday. Should have left it alone. But 7 zeros in 9 bets didn't help either. This is where an Rng differs from a live wheel. Now I have to call on PB and P4 to bring me back 10---15 units a day.

[Robeenhuut]

How does that prove I'm wrong? Proves I'm right if anything.

{It's why you'll never see 3 continuous W's when he's betting the dozens.}

DOZ1     2   L   235 DOZ2     2   L   233 DOZ1     2   L   231 DOZ2     2   L   229 DOZ2     4   L   225 DOZ3     4   W   233

I think that you need 2 go back to roulette 101 classes if this is 
double dozen betting.  

[monaco]

DOZ1     2   L   235 DOZ2     2   L   233 DOZ1     2   L   231 DOZ2     2   L   229 DOZ2     4   L   225 DOZ3     4   W   233

I think that you need 2 go back to roulette 101 classes if this is 
double dozen betting.  

Let me break it down for you..


07/18/2012
DOZ1     2   L   235
DOZ2     2   L   233 was a double dozen bet on 1&2, 2units on each, lost.

DOZ1     2   L   231
DOZ2     2   L   229 double dozen bet on 1&2, 2u on each lost

DOZ2     4   L   225
DOZ3     4   W   233 double dozen bet on 2&3, 4u on each, won on dozen3 etc...

DOZ2     1   L   232
DOZ3     1   W   234

DOZ1     3   L   231
DOZ2     3   L   228

DOZ1     3   L   225
DOZ2     3   L   222

DOZ2     4   L   218
DOZ3     4   W   226

DOZ2     2   L   224
DOZ3     2   L   222

DOZ1     5   L   217
DOZ2     5   L   212

get it now?

[justanothergambler]

I dnt know how JL made that fall ! I have tested Bayes RNG and always end up positive.
JL has to admit his approach is wrong from the beginning .. he just doesnt want to listen to MATH guys.

[Robeenhuut]

Let me break it down for you..


07/18/2012
DOZ1     2   L   235
DOZ2     2   L   233 was a double dozen bet on 1&2, 2units on each, lost.

DOZ1     2   L   231
DOZ2     2   L   229 double dozen bet on 1&2, 2u on each lost

DOZ2     4   L   225
DOZ3     4   W   233 double dozen bet on 2&3, 4u on each, won on dozen3 etc...

DOZ2     1   L   232
DOZ3     1   W   234

DOZ1     3   L   231
DOZ2     3   L   228

DOZ1     3   L   225
DOZ2     3   L   222

DOZ2     4   L   218
DOZ3     4   W   226

DOZ2     2   L   224
DOZ3     2   L   222

DOZ1     5   L   217
DOZ2     5   L   212

get it now?

You are  right.  When i looked at betting history i found one instance that 2 consecutive pairs of bets were different so it pointed out to single dozens betting. But the pattern points to double dozens betting but its not really the point here 

[TwoCatSam]

Bayes

Would you sort this out?

DOZ1  2  L  235

DOZ1........does that mean he bet on the first dozen?

2......does that mean he bet two units?

L...........he lost.

235.......his bankroll after the loss.

Is he betting single dozens or double dozens?

Sam

[monaco]

You are  right.  When i looked at betting history i found one instance that 2 consecutive pairs of bets were different so it pointed out to single dozens betting. But the pattern points to double dozens betting but its not really the point here 

I know, it was just an observation 

[TwoCatSam]

I get it...

DOZ1
DOZ2............is a single spin.  But what is the 2 that follows both bets.  Not bet amount.

Right, Monaco?

Sam

[monaco]

I get it...

DOZ1
DOZ2............is a single spin.  But what is the 2 that follows both bets.  Not bet amount.

Right, Monaco?

Sam

thats right - thats one spin, the 2 that follows is the amount bet on that particular dozen.

[TwoCatSam]

DOZ2     1   L   232
DOZ3     1   W  234

OK, if he's betting on double dozens, how can we have this?

Sam

[monaco]

.

[justanothergambler]

EDIT

Sam if you bet on 2 dozs , they cant WIN both

did you try Bayes program to get familiar?

[TwoCatSam]

Sorry guys.......another dense moment.

I'll leave this alone.