The JL Challenge

[Drazen]

Juice??  You're kidding me, right .... 

No my friend, i don't drink alcohol. But i ll definitely have to drink something "sharply" if JL raises his bank to several thousand of units with his Martingale. 

Cheers

Drazen

[Tomla021]

I believe JL is in the black today---go get em

[Wally Gator]

No my friend, i don't drink alcohol. But i ll definitely have to drink something "sharply" if JL raises his bank to several thousand of units with his Martingale. 

Cheers

Drazen

If that happens, the JUICE is on me .....

[TwoCatSam]

Where's Jl?

[Robeenhuut]

Where's Jl?

He posted in Profit Trickler thread in Testing Zone  Testing zone / Re: Profit Trickler
Apparently he started playing Pattern 7 n Breaker.

[Bayes]

UPDATE:

Temporary delay due to software problems. 

Stay tuned...

[iggiv]

i would say: why do u need RNG or random.org if u have roughly 30 wheel data in real time or archives  at spielbank casinos online?

The goal is to defeat RNG or a wheel? i think defeating RNG is harder. Also there could be special requests fulfilled from spielbank data, like each set of spins can be from another wheel and/or
done such and such number of spins away from the previous one.

[atlantis]

I'm looking forward to the restart of the challenge!

A.

[Bayes]

The results will now be uploaded to a web site, I'll post the link here when I get some confirmation from JL that the software is working ok (I sent him the download link earlier). Just bookmark the site and you can keep track of JL's progress. 

@ iggiv, I did look into getting spins from spielbank some time ago. Unfortunately it's not so easy to get them in real time, and the problem with using the archive is that they could be known to John. I did offer to provide actuals, but seems happy enough to use RNG.

[iggiv]

Bayes, u don't have to give him last results. it could be one year ago results. they are just as valid as any. i don't think John will look for where he can find  spins to use to fake his game. I think he is an honest guy u can trust.

[iggiv]

or u can provide him with both sets of results. Let's say if he loses RNG and wins roulette then we will know that there could be some difference with results.

[mattymattz]

Iggiv,

Bayes is right in that is too risky to provide old Spielbank spins.  doesn't matter when they are from.  Computers can search a ton of stuff of matching strings of numbers... very easy to find with the right setup.

MM

[iggiv]

John does not sell anything, he has no interest to lie. But if u say so i don't mind. It's not me taking up the challenge )

[Still]

UPDATE:

Temporary delay due to software problems. 

Stay tuned...

I just wanted to point out this thread just in case.  But since it probably won't be calling random numbers at high speed, it probably won't matter. 

link:://rouletteforum.cc/coding-for-roulette/26/dont-make-this-programming-mistake-with-random/9602/

I think this is an excellent method to prove something.  Wishing JL the best of skill and announce that i was a believer before he had to prove anything.  In fact i still believe in Code 20. 

[Bayes]

or You can provide him with both sets of results. Let's say if he loses RNG and wins roulette then we will know that there could be some difference with results.

I like this idea, but not sure how it could be done in practice. I don't think that JL is selling anything either, but the test has to be as foolproof as possible. I'm not saying that JL would try to cheat, only that a good test should minimize the possibility that anyone COULD cheat if they had a mind to.

mattymattz is right, it's so easy for anyone with the right software (or ability to write it) to scan millions of spins and match a pattern, so any spins in the public domain shouldn't be used. As for live wheels, apart from the technical issues, I don't think JL would agree because it would take too long;  with the RNG he can get a spin instantly at the click of a button.