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The JL Challenge

Started by Bayes, Jun 20, 06:04 PM 2012

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Wally Gator

You're a good man, Charlie Brown .... er, John Legend.  Best of luck to you, although I'm not so sure you'll be needing it.
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

Johnlegend

I have just completed my second session. An easier affair than yesterday where I had a real battle with the RNG. I attained my 6 units profit relatively easy today. So after two sessions my balance stands at 212 units.

Johnlegend

Quote from: Wally Gator on Jul 02, 09:16 PM 2012
You're a good man, Charlie Brown .... er, John Legend.  Best of luck to you, although I'm not so sure you'll be needing it.
Thankyou Wally Gator appreciate it.

Tomla021

Go Go Go !!!!! Big time rooting for you!  Hey 6% uptick already 
"No Whining, just Winning"

Chauncy47

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 03, 01:07 PM 2012
Thankyou Wally Gator appreciate it.

You are a good man JL!  I will share that I have played RNG and battled many a nights only to end up on the losing side eventually.  It is not even close to live play...that I do know for sure.  I will be be very anxious to hear more about your results and perhaps you can inspire some of us to try RNG again.  For now, I will stick to live play!  Can't wait to hear more :)

Johnlegend

Quote from: Tomla021 on Jul 03, 01:23 PM 2012
Go Go Go !!!!! Big time rooting for you!  Hey 6% uptick already
Thanks Tomla021

Johnlegend

Quote from: Chauncy47 on Jul 03, 01:24 PM 2012
You are a good man JL!  I will share that I have played RNG and battled many a nights only to end up on the losing side eventually.  It is not even close to live play...that I do know for sure.  I will be be very anxious to hear more about your results and perhaps you can inspire some of us to try RNG again.  For now, I will stick to live play!  Can't wait to hear more :)
Good to hear from you Chauncy47. Hows your play going? RNGs are tough but can be beaten. Thats why I took the challenge to inspire people to think more positively.

Drazen

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 03, 01:43 PM 2012
RNGs are tough but can be beaten


Beating real RNG-s is not tougher than any modern maintaned wheel. It is perfectly the same.


At least in your case  8)


Regards


Drazen


Chauncy47

JL, the live play has been awesome to say the least.  The results continue to be amazing or maybe not so amazing anymore  :)  Perhaps the right word is expected  :)  Thank you again for all your contributions to the forum!  As you know, I am getting ready to head to Europe for 2 weeks and really looking forward to playing the single 0 wheel .... although it won't change my betting strategy, it will just be a different fun experience.  I have been giving RNG a lot of thought lately and will say that you are way ahead of the curve if you have focused in a way to beat it.   I have found that even through Hit & Run, its very stubborn.     

Johnlegend

Quote from: drazen_cro on Jul 03, 01:49 PM 2012

Beating real RNG-s is not tougher than any modern maintaned wheel. It is perfectly the same.


At least in your case  8)


Regards


Drazen
I'm not sure about that Drazen. Yesterday was the hardest I've had to work for just 6 units in a long time. That said I am being very conservative with my staking at the moment. If I am able to double the BR. My staking will be more adventurous. Especially for recovery. Plus I will be able to finance the 2/1 methods. That's when it really gets going. And I will push for bigger session percentages. To reach my first benchmark of 600 units. One step at a time. I have been preaching about patience and self discipline ever since I landed on a roulette forum. Now you will all see how JL puts that talk into practice.

Johnlegend

Quote from: Chauncy47 on Jul 03, 02:20 PM 2012
JL, the live play has been awesome to say the least.  The results continue to be amazing or maybe not so amazing anymore  :)  Perhaps the right word is expected  :)  Thank you again for all your contributions to the forum!  As you know, I am getting ready to head to Europe for 2 weeks and really looking forward to playing the single 0 wheel .... although it won't change my betting strategy, it will just be a different fun experience.  I have been giving RNG a lot of thought lately and will say that you are way ahead of the curve if you have focused in a way to beat it.   I have found that even through Hit & Run, its very stubborn.     
It can be done Chauncy47. There is no question Bayes RNG is as fair as a live wheel. I know of certain online RNGs that are predatory. They simply oppose whatever you bet on. Its so obvious that they should be closed down and fined some serious loot. But there are some that are fair. Its finding them and also being able to play them.

Bayes says BV is a fair RNG. Now I'm not going to argue with him. Because to be honest I've never really taken a close look at it. Plus I've never been comfortable with a no zero wheel as amazing as that may sound. What I do know is no RNG has ever beaten me in practice mode. Yet in real money mode I've never been able to come out on top. Maybe I haven't played them long enough to come to that absolute conclusion. But the few I have played just don't appear to behave anywhere close to a live wheel or even as they do when they have nothing to gain (practice mode) That's all I'm saying. After this challenge is over. And hopefully I am successful. I would like Bayes to direct me to RNGS he believes are fair. Then I will see if I can beat them.

The reason I want to do this is for our American friends more than anything. They have it real tough with their ridiculous online betting laws. So its really tough for them to make any money online.

Chauncy47

JL, and to add to your comment from above. I am not sure RNG and Live Wheel Play are the same either.  I will share that the results are much different or appear to be much different at this time.  I have read enough to know about RNG that the parameters can be altered and what that means is still unclear but the simple fact is that if something can be altered, so its not exactly the same as Live Wheel Play. I am only offering an opinion before I get barraged challenging the validity of RNG. Its only an opinion. 

Drazen

Hm.. well mr. John saying this you are implying that there are could be differences beetween randoms of leveled wheel and real independant RNG as you are playing on?


And that you are sensitive so much on randoms behaviour and could spot the difference?


With playing so small example? No, no mr. John


This can look lets say like a preparing for a possible fail in the eyes of your followers and advocates.


Dont you affraid of that?


Cheers


Drazen







Drazen

Quote from: Chauncy47 on Jul 03, 02:39 PM 2012
JL, and to add to your comment from above. I am not sure RNG and Live Wheel Play are the same either.  I will share that the results are much different or appear to be much different at this time.  I have read enough to know about RNG that the parameters can be altered and what that means is still unclear but the simple fact is that if something can be altered, so its not exactly the same as Live Wheel Play. I am only offering an opinion before I get barraged challenging the validity of RNG. Its only an opinion.


Dont bother my friend with that BS. Every at least little serious player here knows the difference when playing on gambling RNG for real.


On independent true RNG is no difference. Be sure about that.


Spare your energy for something better, and never use any kind of RNG in gambling purposes, especialy for playing with your hard earned money my friend.


Cheers


Drazen

Johnlegend

Quote from: drazen_cro on Jul 03, 02:39 PM 2012
Hm.. well mr. John saying this you are implying that there are could be differences beetween randoms of leveled wheel and real independant RNG as you are playing on?


And that you are sensitive so much on randoms behaviour and could spot the difference?


With playing so small example? No, no mr. John


This can look lets say like a preparing for a possible fail in the eyes of your followers and advocates.


don't you affraid of that?


Cheers


Drazen
NO Drazen. I am not affraid. Or I wouldnt have taken the challenge. I'm saying there are certain online RNGs that are breaking the law. You yourself have slated RNGs in the past. So you should know. Remember the one about your friend being banned by William Hill. But very welcome to use their RNGs. Now why would that be???

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